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Speaking of pro wrestling video games, what is the general consensus on the early SmackDown! games (say...before it switched over to SmackDown vs. Raw)? I remember really liking them when I was younger, and I still play a game of Here Comes the Pain whenever I travel to my parents home. The controls were really simple up until probably Here Comes the Pain too.
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PunkBoy posted:I loved in No Mercy how the 3D was made to be the most devastating move ever. It had something ridiculous like "SS" damage or something, and it sounded like a nuke hit whenever it was pulled off. It actually has a damage rating of "—" which apparently means no damage.
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Jan 9, 2014 03:29
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TL posted:I love No Mercy, but I'd KILL for a new game using the Day of Reckoning engine. I really wanted to like those games but the collision detection really gets on my nerve. I mean if I knock someone out of a headlock we shouldn't be all on the mat for three days.
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Jan 9, 2014 03:34
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The animations in No Mercy were also really great. They started off kinda odd in WCW vs NWO World Tour, but they got much better over every game, and the ones that were new to No Mercy were excellent. Nowadays the new animations are much more consistently good, but there was a long time last decade where move animations looked like garbage in every single game.
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Jan 9, 2014 05:01
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No Mercy (and all N64 games) fall strongly into the 'you had to be there' category. If you were not there, tough. Live with the plebeian experiences of your lesser generations.
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Jan 9, 2014 05:04
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crankdatbatman posted:Speaking of pro wrestling video games, what is the general consensus on the early SmackDown! games (say...before it switched over to SmackDown vs. Raw)? I remember really liking them when I was younger, and I still play a game of Here Comes the Pain whenever I travel to my parents home. The controls were really simple up until probably Here Comes the Pain too. I really like Smackdown! 2: Know Your Role, but I'm a bit biased as it's the only wrestling game I've played thoroughly, and it's what got me into wrestling in the first place. I have no clue how good it's considered compared to other wrestling games though.
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Funktastic posted:I really like Smackdown! 2: Know Your Role, but I'm a bit biased as it's the only wrestling game I've played thoroughly, and it's what got me into wrestling in the first place. I have no clue how good it's considered compared to other wrestling games though. Was that the one that had the never ending career mode? I remember playing as the Hurricane and leaving to make movies in Hollywood before returning and turning heel for no reason at all.
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Jan 9, 2014 05:09
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AfterFather posted:Was that the one that had the never ending career mode? I remember playing as the Hurricane and leaving to make movies in Hollywood before returning and turning heel for no reason at all. Pretty sure it isn't. Hurricane isn't in the game. Edit: Though season mode is never ending as far as I know. At least, I've never actually gotten to the end.
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Jan 9, 2014 05:14
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crankdatbatman posted:Speaking of pro wrestling video games, what is the general consensus on the early SmackDown! games (say...before it switched over to SmackDown vs. Raw)? I remember really liking them when I was younger, and I still play a game of Here Comes the Pain whenever I travel to my parents home. The controls were really simple up until probably Here Comes the Pain too. My fifth console generation of choice was PlayStation, so I grew up on SmackDown! and Know Your Role, and I thought they were awesome. The original's season mode was very simplistic (one show per month) and there wasn't much logical progression in the "story" outside of any randomly-assigned relationships between other wrestlers. The season mode in KYR was a loving chore, every match HAD to have a progression bar to determine which person won. There's also, like, hundreds of story points that could be made, but I always ever encountered the same 20 cutscenes. Thanks, KYR, for making me wait through 45 seconds of loading screens to witness Mankind adjusting wristbands that he doesn't have, but the CAW improved greatly over the original's template choices. Not to mention it was also the first WWE game to feature the Cell, which was a huge deal for me back then. That being said, the gameplay was fast and chaotic, which is the defining trait I liked about the game. My friend came over with his N64 and No Mercy with an expansion pack, and it still felt like controlling a slug slowly bodyslamming another slug. I could never get into it. End result: KYR is choice, avoid the season mode, play multiplayer. TheWorstAmy fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Jan 9, 2014 05:25
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crankdatbatman posted:Speaking of pro wrestling video games, what is the general consensus on the early SmackDown! games (say...before it switched over to SmackDown vs. Raw)? I remember really liking them when I was younger, and I still play a game of Here Comes the Pain whenever I travel to my parents home. The controls were really simple up until probably Here Comes the Pain too. Here Comes The Pain was fantastic (Goldberg vs Lesnar all day, every day), but that series went downhill REALLY fast.
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Jan 9, 2014 05:49
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If World Tour were never released, I never would have started watching Nitro. Edit: I should clarify: Wrestling in general, starting with Nitro. LividLiquid fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Jan 9, 2014 06:22
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The moveset customization was absolutely incredible too. Every single attack your wrestler did you could set.
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Jan 9, 2014 06:57
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I preferred the ponderousness of No Mercy over the arcade-y speed of Smackdown. It gave the character models a feeling of weight and mass despite there being no physics engine to speak of, which made move impacts really satisfying (the sound design helped too). Most modern games made on Unreal Engine 3 don't have that kind of weight. By contrast, in Smackdown you could awkwardly launch opponents over the top rope in any number of ludicrous and glitchy-looking ways. If you hit a ground attack on an opponent while they were getting up they would jerkily slam back on the mat as though they'd just been hit with a powerbomb and bounce halfway across the ring. It was terrible.
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Jan 9, 2014 07:09
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You guys are lucky, I grew up with War Zone and my parents wouldn't buy me more wrestling games because they didn't like the language. (Thanks Stone Cold!)
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Jan 9, 2014 07:17
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At least you weren't saddled with the digitized novelty act that was WWF In Your House.
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Jan 9, 2014 07:28
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My first PS1 game I played when I got it for Christmas was War Zone. God I tried with that game. I quickly switched to Spyro. Then Attitude was a step up at least.
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Jan 9, 2014 07:41
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crankdatbatman posted:Speaking of pro wrestling video games, what is the general consensus on the early SmackDown! games (say...before it switched over to SmackDown vs. Raw)? I remember really liking them when I was younger, and I still play a game of Here Comes the Pain whenever I travel to my parents home. The controls were really simple up until probably Here Comes the Pain too. The first two games are fun but the really manic and twitchy pace is kind of a turnoff because moves don't feel like they have weight at times but as pick-up-and-play titles they are still somewhat fun. Just Bring It was mediocre back then and is skippable now with Shut Your Mouth and especially Here Comes the Pain (the latter the best of the pre-SVR titles) being huge freaking improvements. Here Comes the Pain is a blast to play because it found a way to have the energy of the SmackDown titles but making the moves feel like they hurt.
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Jan 9, 2014 08:20
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My first one was WCW Mayhem, and my CAW used Dean Malenko's theme music. Then my second was one of the Legends of Wrestling games (I THINK it was the second one) and my CAW had Warrior's theme. I still remember that I'd spend entire matches just Polish hammering guys.
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Jan 9, 2014 09:57
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Here Comes the Pain is really the only Smackdown game you want from the entirety of the PS2 era. Shut Your Mouth is almost as good, Just Bring It was essentially a PSX game ported to PS2. Smackdown 2006 is well-liked. I honestly don't remember if the first SvR was any good and Just Bring It was my first game in the series, though I've played some of the older ones where you can wrestle as Paul Bearer in a backstage brawl. HCTP was either very competitive or far better for gameplay than every other Smackdown until maybe this year, and this year still has flaws. That's ten loving years of mediocrity.
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Jan 9, 2014 10:13
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Just Bring It was awesome solely for the fact you could have 8-Man Battle Royals. They switched it to 6-Man Battle Royals from Shut Your Mouth onwards as far as I know. Also WWF Attitude was my first wrestling game and the one that got me into wrestling in general. It was a pile of poo poo looking back on it but I enjoyed it.
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Jan 9, 2014 14:03
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The hours me and my cousins spent on Warzone and Attitude was obscene. I have found memories of the hardcore matches in Warzone when the table would generate. Just once a match mind! Then hitting a sweet British Bulldog running powerslam through it. Also the only game ever that allows you to hit superkicks to the back of the head.
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MisterGBH posted:The hours me and my cousins spent on Warzone and Attitude was obscene. I have found memories of the hardcore matches in Warzone when the table would generate. Just once a match mind! Then hitting a sweet British Bulldog running powerslam through it. Also the only game ever that allows you to hit superkicks to the back of the head. I played Warzone way too much. I think I made more CAWs in this game than any. However, given that you didn't have to assign individual moves, it went a lot faster. Attitude was weird. It had a pretty solid roster and I appreciate some of the work they put into the entrances, even if they looked a bit funny in execution.
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Glamorama26 posted:I feel like Joe Gagne, who does a youtube series over the history of wrestling games, should sue. He's involved with the project too I believe. God, War Zone was so bad I can't believe I played it so much (especially since I owned World Tour as well). Just empty lovely arenas with lifeless models and awful commentary. The particularly awful CAW taunts when you hit people with foreign objects are burned into my brain forever. "Oh yeah. OHHHHHHH YEAH" I miss the "weighty" nature of the AKI games as well. Once you beat the crap out of someone, you could tell. They moved sluggishly and held their heads/legs when they went across the ring, and when you knocked them down you got that incredibly satisfying KO animation where they struggle to sit up and then fall back down. These days you can powerbomb a guy through 30 tables, wear all his limbs down to red, and he'll still only stay down for 0.5 seconds while you're trying to climb a ladder. You could beat people down enough that you could legitimately win ladder matches in No Mercy. In modern games I just cheese it from the beginning and go for the belt instantly since there's no hope of keeping the guys down. Tato fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Jan 9, 2014 14:43
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Day of Reckoning was frigging great. I remember playing as Shawn Michaels and recreating the "Rock comes off the ropes for a People's Elbow and runs into a superkick" spot. You could do stuff like that, it was amazing.
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AkumaHokoru posted:The moveset customization was absolutely incredible too. Every single attack your wrestler did you could set. Drove me crazy that you couldn't edit wrestler's movesets though. Angle started using the Ankle Lock, just let me give it to him!
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MisterGBH posted:The hours me and my cousins spent on Warzone and Attitude was obscene. I have found memories of the hardcore matches in Warzone when the table would generate. Just once a match mind! Then hitting a sweet British Bulldog running powerslam through it. Also the only game ever that allows you to hit superkicks to the back of the head. This was basically me and my friends with WWF RAW on the SNES. The battle for obtaining the chairs and bucket never got old.
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Smoking Crow posted:You guys are lucky, I grew up with War Zone and my parents wouldn't buy me more wrestling games because they didn't like the language. (Thanks Stone Cold!) Thanks for making me feel old. All of my wrestling video game memories are from the NES and Gameboy. 
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Tato posted:He's involved with the project too I believe. PLAY-ER ONE! PLAY-ER ONE! PLAY-ER ONE!
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Tato posted:God, War Zone was so bad I can't believe I played it so much (especially since I owned World Tour as well). Just empty lovely arenas with lifeless models and awful commentary. The particularly awful CAW taunts when you hit people with foreign objects are burned into my brain forever. "Oh yeah. OHHHHHHH YEAH" "T-BONE.... it's what's for dinner!"
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If you take everything good away from War Zone and Attitude you get the ECW games.
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bradzilla posted:PLAY-ER ONE! PLAY-ER ONE! PLAY-ER ONE! This is still the greatest chant in a game ever. We had a player one chat going at a local show once.
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Jan 9, 2014 16:07
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As if I hadn't already shown that I'm old, here's WWF Wrestlefest!           
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bobkatt013 posted:If you take everything good away from War Zone and Attitude you get the ECW games. Didn't the ECW games have that match where the ring is surrounded by lava or fire or something?
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Jan 9, 2014 16:14
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I like how Jake Roberts and Ted DiBiase are almost in lifelike detail, everyone else is a cartoon (especially Warrior), and Hulk Hogan who is... supposed to look intense... but just looks insane.
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triplexpac posted:Didn't the ECW games have that match where the ring is surrounded by lava or fire or something? Yes it had inferno matches, and they were stupid.
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Ted appears to be masturbating, and Jake looks like he wants to eat the snake and then he's like "just kidding!"
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Mr. Perfect looks like he's saying "'DERP DERP DERP!' That's my impression of you!" Also, quite a few pages back, everyone was talking about some of their favorite announcer/commentator calls of all time. I was recently watching TLC II from WrestleMania X7 and there was this gem from JR... "Lita is jerking Edge off! ...that ladder!" It takes him a good three to five seconds to realize what he's said and add the last two words. I'm surprised Heyman didn't lose it.
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Funny you say that, because I was thinking that Warrior's was doing the  motion. Looking at Hogan's it really does make you wonder how he was ever a babyface.Edit: Something that just came to mind: my memory's hazy on this, but has Gene Oakerlund ever introduced himself as Mean Gene, or was that what everybody else called him? And where did the name come from (I assume simply because it rhymed)? Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Can someone explain the La Parka / L.A. Park thing to me? How did the new La Parka take over the gimmick when the other guy was still wrestling?
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Halloween Jack posted:Ted appears to be masturbating Goddamn it now they ALL look like they're jerking off Thanks, Halloween Jack!
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