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Quest For Glory II posted:They were called screens, it wasn't a ton of checkdown passes. Their offense is generally screens screens screens and screens. You'll get a better idea of Carr's arm this offseason. Hopefully this is kosher, but this guy's got the game at http://noonkick.com/2013-fresno-state-vs-san-jose-state/ Will remove if it's 
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Intruder posted:I'd still rather have Teddy but yeah I've apparently been a bit too sour on the idea of JFF  That said, I don't think O'Brien will be drafting him. I just hope he goes to Minnesota and becomes the next Tarkenton.
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I'm going to guess Cleveland ends up using its first rounder from Indy on either Tre Mason or Carlos Hyde.
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Emanuel Collective posted:And his accuracy falls off a cliff when asked to throw beyond the line of scrimmage. That breakdown makes Carr look really bad. It really doesn't. According to the article his adjusted completion percentage is 73.59%, which is really really good. He just happens to be running that up against three guys who all had great years. The only thing that I glean from that article is Bortles is better than we think he is.
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Jan 10, 2014 15:46
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Troy Niklas declared which means there will be a big competition between him, ASJ, and Logan Thomas for freakishly huge athlete who puts up the shittiest numbers.
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Doltos posted:It really doesn't. According to the article his adjusted completion percentage is 73.59%, which is really really good. He just happens to be running that up against three guys who all had great years. The only thing that I glean from that article is Bortles is better than we think he is. His long range and short range accuracy are both suspect and his number appear to drop significantly under pressure. Those are concerns. I think a better statement would be that drafting Carr in the first seems very suspect. He is clearly a high-end project at QB.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I'm going to guess Cleveland ends up using its first rounder from Indy on either Tre Mason or Carlos Hyde. It would be hilarious. Just...hilarious. I guess the Colt's pick is going to be too low to draft Mike Evans but it would have been great to have had him to help Gordon and Cameron out.
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Sataere posted:His long range and short range accuracy are both suspect and his number appear to drop significantly under pressure. Those are concerns. I think a better statement would be that drafting Carr in the first seems very suspect. He is clearly a high-end project at QB. I think he's a solid top 50 pick ala Dalton. He's a dude that teams like the Browns inevitably pick up in the second after burning their top 10 selection on a different position. #1? No. But the people who are acting like he's even in the running for that are panicky Texans fans. Carr can also be a surprise top 15 pick like Ponder, who I still maintain wasn't that big of a surprise.
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Gatts posted:It would be hilarious. Just...hilarious. I still think they'll take Evans or Watkins at 4 and be the team that bites too early on Aaron Murray.
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Jan 10, 2014 17:35
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sportsgenius86 posted:I still think they'll take Evans or Watkins at 4 and be the team that bites too early on Aaron Murray. Haha, my wish list was to say go for Clowney DE, Evans WR, Bishop Sankey RB, and Aaron Murray as our QB for our first 4 picks. gently caress it man, let's Browns it all the way and go for it.
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Hey friends, just popping in to post my wishlist for the #23 pick, ranked by how much I wish for them: 1. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 2. Marquise Lee 3. Eric Ebron 4. Alfonzo Dennard 5. Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
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Pron on VHS posted:Hey friends, just popping in to post my wishlist for the #23 pick, ranked by how much I wish for them: I am 100% on board with this. You hear me, Dorsey?
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Gatts posted:Haha, my wish list was to say go for Clowney DE, Evans WR, Bishop Sankey RB, and Aaron Murray as our QB for our first 4 picks. gently caress it man, let's Browns it all the way and go for it. That is the most Brownsy draft I can think of except they'd need to trade up in the second for Murray.
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Jan 10, 2014 18:28
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bhsman posted:That said, I don't think O'Brien will be drafting him. I just hope he goes to Minnesota and becomes the next Tarkenton.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:13
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Kelvin Benjamin was given a 1st round grade by the NFL and will obviously be declaring. He's iffy to me. Maybe he can convert to TE.
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Gendo posted:An egomaniac rear end in a top hat who helps promote dangerous new age nonsense and can't stop sticking his nose where it isn't welcome? Sounds about right. Coming soon to a health store near you: Manziel's Jaeger Diet
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So are the main knocks on Mettenberger his knee injury and that he is a pure pocket passer?
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DangerKat posted:So are the main knocks on Mettenberger his knee injury and that he is a pure pocket passer? Immobile statue that makes bad decisions. His leg injury only added to the pile. Kind of reminds me of Mallett. Hell of an arm.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:20
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I wish charts like that would include someone laughably bad like Case McCoy as a baseline. It's a lot harder to hate on Carr for such high % of behind LOS - 5 yard passes when he's still out-attempting everyone else in 6+ yard passes.
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Pron on VHS posted:Hey friends, just popping in to post my wishlist for the #23 pick, ranked by how much I wish for them: Alfonzo Dennard is going to find new and interesting ways of falling out of the first round this year! (I know you mean Darqueze)
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Gendo posted:An egomaniac rear end in a top hat who helps promote dangerous new age nonsense and can't stop sticking his nose where it isn't welcome? Sounds about right. Is there anyone or anything you don't hate?
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Call of Cholula posted:Alfonzo Dennard is going to find new and interesting ways of falling out of the first round this year! (I know you mean Darqueze) God damnit, I actually thought the Dennards were Alphonze and Alphonzo
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Jan 10, 2014 20:39
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Fauria is a nice red zone target but he is not actually good at football. Corner and No. 2 wideout are by far the biggest positional needs, followed by another OLB. You never know what weird BPA pick Mayhew might make though, especially at 10.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:08
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The Vikings won't be drafting a quarterback because they'll be signing Michael Vick.
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Can they sign Randy Moss out of retirement too
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Jan 11, 2014 02:40
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Didn't the Patriots do that one year, just sign up whatever washed-up star they could?
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Probably Magic posted:Didn't the Patriots do that one year, just sign up whatever washed-up star they could? The Patriots 2012 camp roster included Donte Stallworth, Ochocinco, Anthony Gonzolez and Deion Branch. So yeah.
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Jan 11, 2014 03:31
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Doltos posted:Carr can also be a surprise top 15 pick like Ponder, who I still maintain wasn't that big of a surprise. I'm so glad the Vikings are in prime position to take advantage of the opportunity to pull another Ponderesque reach SO GLAD 
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Is there a realistic mock draft out yet for the non-playoff teams? I don't follow college players much
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Real hurthling! posted:Is there a realistic mock draft out yet for the non-playoff teams? I don't follow college players much No There won't be for months yet and even then it will be almost completely wrong
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Intruder posted:No And then there will be a ton more and a ton more, also terribly wrong, then a couple of days before the draft the guys who have good connections start getting things right. But honestly that's half the fun and if you want one to look at right now here's one from Sports Illustrated.
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The most accurate mocks are always a day before the draft. Some even get the trades right.
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Mock drafts are fun because I can fantasize about uber teams of players from College Teams I like. Real Drafts suck because Manziel is going to the Browns.
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Grittybeard posted:And then there will be a ton more and a ton more, also terribly wrong, then a couple of days before the draft the guys who have good connections start getting things right. I like the Texans pick in this one at least 
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PrinceRandom posted:Real Drafts suck because Manziel is going to the Browns. If he falls past the Browns, I bet he goes mid to late first.
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Jan 11, 2014 07:11
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Who is bortles and does he look as weird as his name sounds?
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Jan 11, 2014 07:29
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Real hurthling! posted:Who is bortles and does he look as weird as his name sounds? Based on GIS he's a little top heavy for an NFL QB
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UCF quarterback, getting a ton of buzz recently. Big arm, good size, threw for lots of yards and TDs for UCF. He looks like this but you have to look through the GIS results to get this because his girl is hot:
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