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Blizzard lives in its own universe. Their version is probably going to be free too, to go with their free replacement for Magic: the Gathering.
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Dexo posted:As an MMO it's pretty good. This is someone who has played a hell of a lot of MMO's. I can't, because it doesn't exist. TOR included. I've played a hell of a lot of MMOs, too. "As an MMO it's pretty good" is not good enough, and that's why this poo poo is dying out. If it's not a fun game, it's not a fun game. I wasn't expecting something other than another MMO. But that's what I got, and I still thought it was boring and bad. What I saw of the storylines was alright, but let's not forget that it's still like 10 hours of content stretched to over 100 because it's an MMO. gently caress TOR.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:16
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Maybe one of these days one of those UO-inspired "hardcore" MMOs will come out of beta/alpha and not be a buggy piece of poo poo.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:20
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Tae posted:Someone didn't tell blizzard this. Or EA! http://www.waystonegames.com/#/home
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Jan 10, 2014 22:24
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Finally back in work and being able to afford to drop cash on a premium sub feels so good. So many videos that I can just binge on over the weekend 
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Jan 10, 2014 22:25
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Oh, so that's what that game was. I was wondering who the hell was making a Moba on Twitch's feature section.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:26
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:200 million dollars down the toilet so far, and that's just for the game, not the advertising which with "AAA" games is normally 1.5-2x their budget. At least TOR had a somewhat interesting levelling stuff to make playing through the first month a decent experience but yeah it was still an MMO that was a bit better than some MMOs in one way and worse in others. If the 200 million number is accurate then this might end up being one of the biggest financial disasters in games
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Jan 10, 2014 22:27
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Either way it'll be fine. Skyrim sold over 20 million copies.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:37
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Yeah it'll probably sell a shitload just based off of 'Skyrim MMO', but $200 million is a shitload of money to have to make up, especially when you consider the fact that keeping the kind of large numbers of subs that that requires means that they have to keep working on the game and developing more content.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:41
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Sputty posted:At least TOR had a somewhat interesting levelling stuff to make playing through the first month a decent experience but yeah it was still an MMO that was a bit better than some MMOs in one way and worse in others. Nah. F2p reinvigorated it quite a bit. I doubt it's ever profitable but I bet it doesn't end up too bad whenever they lose the license and have to shut it down.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:45
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Hakkesshu posted:I can't, because it doesn't exist. TOR included. I've played a hell of a lot of MMOs, too. "As an MMO it's pretty good" is not good enough, and that's why this poo poo is dying out. If it's not a fun game, it's not a fun game.  ToR and most F2P MMO's are actually doing pretty well. Full priced MMO's with a subscription fee are dying out yes. But the Genre is far from dead. Don't get me wrong the development hell and money that that game went through are crazy. But right now they are operating with a dev team that is still able to add features to the game(Off Rails Spaceship PVP. That even F2P players have access to) Dexo fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jan 10, 2014 |
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Jan 10, 2014 22:45
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Dexo posted:As an MMO it's pretty good. No it's loving not. It's a loving awful MMO and the ONLY redeeming factor of it is the class story, which, surprise surprise, if you only want to do that, you either grind levels or try and do kill quests while 8 levels below what you have to kill. It was a god drat abortion of an MMO.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:47
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:No it's loving not. It's a loving awful MMO and the ONLY redeeming factor of it is the class story, which, surprise surprise, if you only want to do that, you either grind levels or try and do kill quests while 8 levels below what you have to kill. It was a god drat abortion of an MMO. It sounded like you only wanted a single player RPG, which is completely fine. But this game wasn't that. Group up, do other quests, PVP etc etc. You know things you do in an MMO.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:48
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Dexo posted:It sounded like you only wanted a single player RPG, which is completely fine. But this game wasn't that. Group up, do other quests, PVP etc etc. You know things you do in an MMO. I didn't expect that at all, since it was sold as an MMO. Except every single facet of the "MMO" part of the gameplay was loving abysmal compared to it's direct compeditor, WoW. It was like going back in time to The Burning Crusade and trying to play that, except on a far shittier engine.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:53
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:This is the last WoW-Ripoff, but get ready for all the DayZ and Dota/LoL ripoffs! All the gold is buried in THOSE hills, guys! Yeah but what if we crossed those games with Minecraft? Platinum in them hills.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:07
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'Open-World' 'Survival' games are going to be a scourge upon the industry until we reach Olympus and someone releases the Uber-Game, MineDayWorld of Sim Fortress Citizens' Sky.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:14
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AngryBooch posted:Yeah but what if we crossed those games with Minecraft? Platinum in them hills. "Let's cross X game with Minecraft" is probably the only reason that anyone cares about the new Everquest.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:19
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:It was like going back in time to The Burning Crusade and trying to play that, except on a far shittier engine. Considering that Burning Crusade was far and away the best that WoW has ever been, this probably paints Tor more positively than you intended. I only played the beta of Tor, but at that time it was a solidly done MMO with an even more streamlined and satisfying level grind (at least for the first 25 or so that I reached) than almost anything else out there, probably even including WoW (which at the time was speeding up leveling to the point of being too trivial, so that you were forced to skip tons of stuff just from outleveling it). It was just also completely derivative in gameplay and offered nothing new to the genre besides the bioware choice stuff, so there's no chance in hell I was gonna pay retail price and a monthly subscription fee for the Generic MMO Experience, even one that was well-produced and had laser swords. It's still crazy to me that anyone could look at the MMO market now, or even two or three years ago, and still consider it a good idea to budget for and expect to release with a mandatory monthly subscription fee.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:30
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Today in Good Things Max Temkin has done: Dave Lang yelling Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue
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ElNarez posted:Today in Good Things Max Temkin has done: Dave Lang yelling Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue That was amazing.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:37
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Kasonic posted:'Open-World' 'Survival' games are going to be a scourge upon the industry until we reach Olympus and someone releases the Uber-Game, MineDayWorld of Sim Fortress Citizens' Sky. ElNarez posted:Today in Good Things Max Temkin has done: Dave Lang yelling Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue
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Jan 10, 2014 23:39
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ElNarez posted:Today in Good Things Max Temkin has done: Dave Lang yelling Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue Better than the original.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:44
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VDay posted:It'll be some super hardcore uber survival mod for Fallout 4, and it will be glorious. With oculus support and nude mods.  I'll never leave the house again and I'll die happy.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:46
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ElNarez posted:Today in Good Things Max Temkin has done: Dave Lang yelling Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue Today the Pale Blue Dot is not suspended in a sunbeam; today it is deep inside the Lang Zone.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:51
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VDay posted:Yeah it'll probably sell a shitload just based off of 'Skyrim MMO' I doubt it. The mass audience doesn't gives a poo poo about the Elder Scrolls world and setting so it'll just be another MMO that nobody plays. Replace 'Skyrim' with 'Star Wars', a property with an even larger and more rabid fanbase and wider mainstream appeal and think how well that did. On either occasion.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:54
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ElNarez posted:Today in Good Things Max Temkin has done: Dave Lang yelling Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot monologue That was joyful.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:55
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Noxville posted:I doubt it. The mass audience doesn't gives a poo poo about the Elder Scrolls world. 20. Million. Copies.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:55
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MacGyvers_Mullet posted:"Let's cross X game with Minecraft" is probably the only reason that anyone cares about the new Everquest. Voxels are the future of MMOs. The stuff they're going with Everquest Next is pretty impressive and it looks like they're getting away from what is the norm with post-WoW MMOs.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:59
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Monster w21 Faces posted:20. Million. Copies. Even TOR sold really well but was still a big failure. I don't think anything can save an MMO now
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Jan 11, 2014 00:00
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Yeah Brad you really messed up not playing the best action game of 2013!!!
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Jan 11, 2014 00:02
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Monster w21 Faces posted:20. Million. Copies. The setting, besides being a generic fantasy place to gently caress around in, is probably the least of the reasons people bought Skyrim.
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Jan 11, 2014 00:02
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Monster w21 Faces posted:20. Million. Copies. That shows that they enjoy playing Skyrim, not that they'll play a completely different game that shares the same setting.
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Sputty posted:Even TOR sold really well but was still a big failure. I don't think anything can save an MMO now Star Wars isn't the license it used to be in most people's eyes and TOR was weakened by not being set in an established 'movie' era of the universe. If TOR reskinned itself and re-launched to coincide with the first Disney movie I bet it would do a lot better. Especially if it was on consoles. MoonwalkInvincible posted:The setting, besides being a generic fantasy place to gently caress around in, is probably the least of the reasons people bought Skyrim. Well it wasn't for it's deep RPG mechanics or cinematic storytelling. Some people just love exploring worlds.  I've observed it first hand in the instance of my non industry friends who have put hundreds of hours into Skyrim.Noxville posted:That shows that they enjoy playing Skyrim, not that they'll play a completely different game that shares the same setting. The first person view present in TESO looks to the casual observer like Skyrim. If Bethesda positions it as Skyrim with multiplayer/co-op I bet they'll snag a large console market.
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Jan 11, 2014 00:07
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I think it'll probably do a little better than APB, if that's any consolation.
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Jan 11, 2014 00:11
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Yeah Brad you really messed up not playing the best action game of 2013!!! He was too busy with DmC made by noted video game powerhouse Ninja Theory.
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Jan 11, 2014 00:11
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Did Final Fantasy 14 Reborn and DC Universe Online do well on consoles? I don't really have a good grasp on how popular MMOs are on them.
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Jan 11, 2014 00:13
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Hmm, I only have time to play one character action game this year, better make it the one NOT by the people who basically invented it genre as we know it!
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Jan 11, 2014 00:15
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:Hmm, I only have time to play one character action game this year, better make it the one NOT by the people who basically invented it genre as we know it! But the story! The characters! The dialogue! it was all so... Shakespearean. And the combat was so much more accessible! I got a SSSentaional on almost every level 
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MacGyvers_Mullet posted:Did Final Fantasy 14 Reborn and DC Universe Online do well on consoles? I don't really have a good grasp on how popular MMOs are on them. 14 Reborn, as far as I know, is alive and well and sustaining itself but otherwise nothing spectacular (much like most MMOs, or maybe a little better considering how many of them fail). No clue on DC Universe Online, though. e: oh i didn't even see the "on consoles" part, haha lesbian baphomet fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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I just played Metal Gear Rising on the PC and it's kinda sad that it wasn't on their GOTY list. The game just brings it the entire way through.
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