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DeathChicken posted:The Megapowers thing also led to the best, most hate filled promo ever from Savage right before Mania 5. He sounded sincerely hurt enough to turn it around and want to murder Hogan dead. YOU'RE A LLLLLIAR, HULK HOGAN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlSz-Xxo50
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It's been awhile since I've seen it but man, by the last thirty seconds of it I was just waiting for a blood vessel to burst or an eye to pop out of his head.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:05
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DeathChicken posted:The Megapowers thing also led to the best, most hate filled promo ever from Savage right before Mania 5. He sounded sincerely hurt enough to turn it around and want to murder Hogan dead. All of Savage's promos leading up to that match are great. This one is my favorite, and I was pretty thrilled when they put it in WWE 2k14. He sounds absolutely deranged, like some kind of wrestling Macbeth ranting to an empty room about how he doesn't need anyone.
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VogeGandire posted:I have one that annoys the hell out of me only after OSWReview pointed it out: Guys in a blood feud starting a match with a tie-up. Solomonic posted:He sounds absolutely deranged, like some kind of wrestling Macbeth ranting to an empty room about how he doesn't need anyone. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 10, 2014 |
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Jan 10, 2014 19:11
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DeathChicken posted:The Megapowers thing also led to the best, most hate filled promo ever from Savage right before Mania 5. He sounded sincerely hurt enough to turn it around and want to murder Hogan dead. Knowing what we know about Savage it was not an act.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:37
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There's also his great promo from Tuesday in Texas where he's so beside himself that Jake Roberts attacked Liz and he couldn't help her due to Cobra Attacks that he spends most of it incoherently screaming and talking about how at least one of he and Roberts needs to die.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:59
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Rarity posted:How has nobody mentioned this for worst cliché yet: IT'S A TAG MATCH, PLAYA! I hate how every WWE promo contains at least one (and usually multiple) "You see"s. Somebody mentioned it in a shoot a couple years back & I haven't been able to stop noticing it yet.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:27
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oldskool posted:I hate how every WWE promo contains at least one (and usually multiple) "You see"s. Somebody mentioned it in a shoot a couple years back & I haven't been able to stop noticing it yet. I sometimes note it in GDTs. You will get at least one "You see-" on every Raw. It just sounds so unnatural, because it's used in a "Well, here's my gripe!" manner. It would work well as a simple catchphrase for a heel who enjoyed mocking people sarcastically.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:39
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A lot of WWE promos have the problem of feeling very scripted. Some guys don't have their own voice, they're clearly just reciting words that were given to them.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:40
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It's the problem of having the same lovely writers scripting everything. A good writer knows how to give his characters different voices, but the writers for WWE are either crappy enough or don't care enough that everyone just winds up sounding the same.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:46
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Endorph posted:It's the problem of having the same lovely writers scripting everything. A good writer knows how to give his characters different voices, but the writers for WWE are either crappy enough or don't care enough that everyone just winds up sounding the same. And that's not surprising. Even most entertaining dramas have a central character with a unique/distinct personality, and the surrounding cast is all pretty similar, personality-wise.
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Does Paul Heyman have a script typed out or do they give him the general outline and trust he can get there?
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oldpainless posted:Does Paul Heyman have a script typed out or do they give him the general outline and trust he can get there? Pretty sure even Paul, Punk and Cena have scripts, Vince and co just don't mind that much if they deviate. There was that leaked script from around Rumble, that had Punk's promo fully scripted, but the actual one he did on that show was nothing like what was written.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:58
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Punk clearly goes off and starts rambling, he's been responsible for getting matches bumped because he wouldn't get to the drat point.
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Supreme Allah posted:Punk clearly goes off and starts rambling, he's been responsible for getting matches bumped because he wouldn't get to the drat point. That's a bit unprofessional.
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Davros1 posted:That's a bit unprofessional. CM Punk: A bit unprofessional
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Jan 10, 2014 22:27
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Savage's best promo was while portraying Leonard Ghostal, and I will not hear otherwise.
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Supreme Allah posted:Punk clearly goes off and starts rambling, he's been responsible for getting matches bumped because he wouldn't get to the drat point. really? do you have a specific example, because I've never heard of that.
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Cardboard Box posted:really? do you have a specific example, because I've never heard of that. I'll search when I get home. I remember it because it was someone I actually wanted to see so I was put off.
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Supreme Allah posted:Punk clearly goes off and starts rambling, he's been responsible for getting matches bumped because he wouldn't get to the drat point.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:42
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Supreme Allah posted:Punk clearly goes off and starts rambling, he's been responsible for getting matches bumped because he wouldn't get to the drat point.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:49
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Cromulent posted:1. The heel team is getting heat on the face, and when the ref's back is turned, the heels do a fake-tag in (either ignoring an actual tag, or clapping). Ref doesn't think anything of it. Later, when the face is going for the hot tag, he makes it, but the ref's back is turned. The ref immediately sends the face back to the corner because he didn't see the tag. This used to be so common and I know it was supposed to make me mad as a heel spot, but it'd always be within 2-3 minutes of the ref ignoring it for the heels, it was just so inconsistent. All refs are heels.
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projecthalaxy posted:There's also his great promo from Tuesday in Texas where he's so beside himself that Jake Roberts attacked Liz and he couldn't help her due to Cobra Attacks that he spends most of it incoherently screaming and talking about how at least one of he and Roberts needs to die. The best Savage promo is the one he cuts on Crush after Savage had Yoko all but beat for the WWE title on RAW, only for Crush to cost Randy the match. Hot fire.
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laz0rbeak posted:It's pretty common for the ring crew to come down between matches and fix things up/rig up any pyro at ringside, so I imagine it wouldn't be heard to have a wrestler come out with blacks on over his ring gear and then just go under the ring while the announcers are talking up the next show or during the kiss cam or whatever. What about big, hard to disguise guys like the Wyatts who are large and bearded? I can't imagine them subtly sneaking under the ring. I don't know anything about venue construction - are trap doors common or what? I can easily imagine a relatively normal looking guy sneaking in with the crew, but giant beardmen seem to make that impossible.
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With Okada, Tanahashi and others doing really well right now, I was wondering where's KENTA? Did he retire or something?
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TV Zombie posted:With Okada, Tanahashi and others doing really well right now, I was wondering where's KENTA? Did he retire or something? He was the GHC Heavyweight Champion up until last week. For a while he's only been working NOAH/self imposed isolation, but he's said he's lifting that so there is a shot he might be other places this year.
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Cardboard Box posted:really? do you have a specific example, because I've never heard of that. I didn't forget about this, I'm still looking but any combination of words after 'CM punk promo' bring up pages of talk about his famous promos. I tried 'punk promo bumps match', 'punk promo long', and a bunch of crap. I'll pick it up later because I know it came up in a GDT when it happened.
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AlmightyPants posted:What about big, hard to disguise guys like the Wyatts who are large and bearded? I can't imagine them subtly sneaking under the ring. I don't know anything about venue construction - are trap doors common or what? I can easily imagine a relatively normal looking guy sneaking in with the crew, but giant beardmen seem to make that impossible. Combine no light on the ring with bright spotlights on the ramp or entrance where someone is cutting a promo and I guarantee almost no one in the audience will give a poo poo about what's going on in the middle of the arena. Also, lots of the WWE road crew are also enormous bearded men if my experience with theatre and concert road crew is anything to go by.
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Jan 11, 2014 02:48
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at the Seattle Raw, the Wyatts disappeared after their segment. They reemerged after Raw went off the air about an hour and half later. They rolled out from under the ring and booked it to the back.
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JusticeBot posted:Seth: WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT Can you phrase that in the form of a question?
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Supreme Allah posted:I didn't forget about this, I'm still looking but any combination of words after 'CM punk promo' bring up pages of talk about his famous promos. I tried 'punk promo bumps match', 'punk promo long', and a bunch of crap. I'll pick it up later because I know it came up in a GDT when it happened. don't worry about it, if you swear it happened I'll take your word for it, it just sounds like a weird thing considering how strictly WWE times out its shows
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Endorph posted:It's the problem of having the same lovely writers scripting everything. A good writer knows how to give his characters different voices, but the writers for WWE are either crappy enough or don't care enough that everyone just winds up sounding the same. I think it's unfair to blame the writers when they're deliberately neutered by the management. I mean, they're basically not even allowed to talk to the performers. No other scripted television program works that way- you want the cast meeting with the writers so they can talk out their characters and get ideas how to write them better. The WWE writers are scripting in a vacuum.
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Supreme Allah posted:I didn't forget about this, I'm still looking but any combination of words after 'CM punk promo' bring up pages of talk about his famous promos. I tried 'punk promo bumps match', 'punk promo long', and a bunch of crap. I'll pick it up later because I know it came up in a GDT when it happened.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I think it's unfair to blame the writers when they're deliberately neutered by the management. Plenty of TV writers work this way. The head writers/showrunners talk to the talent, the rest of the room doesn't unless there's a specific meeting about it, usually because they're filming somewhere else and TV writers rarely go on set. In film, the writer usually never meets the talent at all during production. You don't have to meet wrestlers to write really good stories for them, you just have to watch them and be a good writer.
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sticklefifer posted:Plenty of TV writers work this way. The head writers/showrunners talk to the talent, the rest of the room doesn't unless there's a specific meeting about it, usually because they're filming somewhere else and TV writers rarely go on set. In film, the writer usually never meets the talent at all during production. You don't have to meet wrestlers to write really good stories for them, you just have to watch them and be a good writer. Film is different- screenwriters are used to writing a script and, years later, maybe seeing something that resembles vaguely what they wrote. However, on TV, cast meetings are not uncommon and those are opportunities to discuss a character and their direction. One example coming to mind is Elisha Cuthbert on Happy Endings- she actually came up with the idea to make Alex kinda dumb (apparently her inspiration was Betty White on Golden Girls.) The writers ran with that and that helped give her character more direction. (Leverage did a funny parody of this with an online video where Beth Riesgraf, playing herself as a demanding diva, went to a character meeting and demanded her character Parker become half-shark.)
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Supreme Allah posted:I didn't forget about this, I'm still looking but any combination of words after 'CM punk promo' bring up pages of talk about his famous promos. I tried 'punk promo bumps match', 'punk promo long', and a bunch of crap. I'll pick it up later because I know it came up in a GDT when it happened. In hindsight, that was a good thing, because the match was pretty great and it was Jericho's last match before his departure anyway.
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PUNKS DIET SODA posted:at the Seattle Raw, the Wyatts disappeared after their segment. They reemerged after Raw went off the air about an hour and half later. They rolled out from under the ring and booked it to the back. Hopefully the guy who keeps leaving kendo sticks under the ring also left a few iPods or 3DSes or something.
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Endless Mike posted:Hopefully the guy who keeps leaving kendo sticks under the ring also left a few iPods or 3DSes or something. Hornswoggle lives under there (if he's still a thing, it's been a while) so I assume there's a nice home theater set up, little kitchen area, etc.
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