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So I wanna watch a Showa era Rider show, but I'm not sure which one, any suggestions?
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Jan 10, 2014 21:01
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Jan 10, 2014 22:13
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V3, Amazon, and Black are really the only ones that are fully translated, as far as I know. All of them are extremely solid, though. Fair warning: Amazon is a little different since he's lizard themed instead of bug themed, is a Tarzan from the Amazon rainforest, and instead of kicking things and making them explode, he just rips their faces open and leaves them to bleed out in rivers. What I'm saying is watch Amazon.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:00
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HKR posted:Stronger
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Jan 10, 2014 23:34
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Comedy Answer: Saban's Masked Rider
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Jan 10, 2014 23:49
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Liar Lyre posted:Comedy Answer: Saban's Masked Rider gently caress you. V3 is one of the best Rider series ever, if you can find it. It's on Youtube though! If you want a series with fantastic monsters of the week who really know how the shine, it's a safe bet.
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Jan 11, 2014 01:07
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Apollove posted:So I wanna watch a Showa era Rider show, but I'm not sure which one, any suggestions? I've only watched Black but I liked it a lot. It's a good show.
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Jan 11, 2014 01:37
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Decided to give Kamen Rider Fourze a try, and I'm up to episode 14. I love how completely optimistic this show is; it meshes so well with the aspirational aspects of space exploration. I feel like this is a show where I could put on an episode and it would make a crummy day just a little bit brighter. It's completely expected at this point, but whenever someone new busts out the secret friendship handshake it puts a smile on my face. Uchuu kitaaaaaaaaaaaa! (EDIT: Also, I'm not sure what aside from "characters walking together" triggered it, but the end of episode 14 made me think of this classic walking scene) Apollove posted:So I wanna watch a Showa era Rider show, but I'm not sure which one, any suggestions? Zero_Tactility fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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Jan 11, 2014 06:05
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Zero_Tactility posted:Kamen Rider Black got me into Kamen Rider. I don't know how it stacks up against other stuff from that era (after seeing some Kaiketsu Zubat, I can totally see why V3 should be amazing), but it's a really solid show. It's very... earnest. If you typed up the plot to many episodes it would sound like the goofiest poo poo ever, but the actors (especially Tetsuo Kurata playing the main character) act like it's the most dire situation that's ever been. It really helped sell the show for me.
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Jan 11, 2014 06:24
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The best way I've heard someone describe Kamen Rider Black is that it’s Tim Burton Batman, whereas most of the older shows are Adam West Batman.
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Jan 11, 2014 15:17
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Looking at Blade ep. 21. Mutseki's infant backstory is really hosed up and completely unnecessary  TV-N's translation REALLY hit its worst here, as I had to go online because I had almost no idea what the hell this kid was talking about. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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Jan 11, 2014 17:52
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jonjonaug posted:I've only watched Black but I liked it a lot. It's a good show. Sounds like a Golgom Plot to me.
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Jan 11, 2014 18:14
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Oh, also, I was thinking of watching Kiva, cause it sounded like a cool plot.
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Jan 11, 2014 19:49
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Apollove posted:Oh, also, I was thinking of watching Kiva, cause it sounded like a cool plot. If you wait I'm sure someone who actually can translate will sub it.
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Jan 11, 2014 19:54
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A lot of people really got into Fourze recently. What happened? Besides Fourze being awesome, I mean.
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Jan 11, 2014 20:20
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I vaguely recall the same thing happening with OOOs, where some people hated on it during its run but by the end of Fourze/beginning of Wizard it was mostly praise. Wonder if it'll happen to Wizard when Gaim is about to end.
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Jan 11, 2014 21:33
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Nah. OOO was redeemed by a strong ending, a great supporting cast, and a pretty good movie in Megamax. Wizard had...none of that. If the Gaim crossover is good, it won't be because of Wizard. Wizard is destined to be the next Kiva.
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Jan 11, 2014 21:48
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Dexie posted:Nah. OOO was redeemed by a strong ending, a great supporting cast, and a pretty good movie in Megamax. Hey, hey, that's not a nice thing to say at all. The past sections of Kiva were far, far better than Wizard.
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Jan 11, 2014 21:51
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Surec posted:I vaguely recall the same thing happening with OOOs, where some people hated on it during its run but by the end of Fourze/beginning of Wizard it was mostly praise. Wonder if it'll happen to Wizard when Gaim is about to end. Probably not because most of the hate it gets isn't really hate, it's more disappointment and boredom. Wizard had a pretty good setup and plenty of potential in Episode 1 and just couldn't follow through with it. It ended up being really boring and a lot of people (myself included) dropped it before Beast showed up because nothing was happening. There was no real tension, no looming threat, no masterful villainous plan. Just a pair of underlings sending chumps out every so often to make people cry supposedly to revive their master, but we're given no evidence that it's working early on so our minds ignore it and without an actual threat to the world or our "hero" the story just kinda grinds to a halt. Like I said Wizard's backstory/lore had potential to go somewhere and could have been engaging and interesting but they seemed to have shot themselves in the foot with the writing.
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Jan 11, 2014 21:56
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Cernunnos posted:Just a pair of underlings sending chumps out every so often to make people cry supposedly to revive their master, but we're given no evidence that it's working early on so our minds ignore it and without an actual threat to the world or our "hero" the story just kinda grinds to a halt.  What a complete waste.
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Jan 11, 2014 22:07
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Dexie posted:Goddamn, this. That was the most disappointing part of Wizard to me, how ineffectual Medusa and Phoenix were, and partly why I ended up dropping the series. If those lunkheads had been able to make one, just one new Phantom, they could have been more bearable, but nope. Can't have our villains seem like a credible threat. Or I dunno, maybe have Dragon being some big threat? Like the idea that Wizard is basically one bad day from exploding into a super monster would have been really cool! Maybe have one of those new wizard lose control and have their Phantom inside freak out?
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Jan 11, 2014 22:11
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Wait, according to the Tokyuu promo, we're getting Choo Choo Sentai on February 16th. Now unless I've gone completely retarded, that means that there are only going to be 48 total episodes of Kyoryuuger. Tomorrow is the 12th, and the 44th episode, and there are only four Sundays inbetween then and the 16th. Is Kyoryuger gonna be the shortest Sentai since *checks Wikipedia* Carranger?
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Jan 11, 2014 22:48
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Dexie posted:Goddamn, this. That was the most disappointing part of Wizard to me, how ineffectual Medusa and Phoenix were, and partly why I ended up dropping the series. If those lunkheads had been able to make one, just one new Phantom, they could have been more bearable, but nope. Can't have our villains seem like a credible threat. It's not just Medusa and Phoenix - the entire show is an enormous failure reel on part of the villains. They actually end up making negative progress, because any time Haruto or Kousuke can't get to a Gate in time they just decide to save their own drat selves and become wizards. Then it turns out that was the plan all along and gently caress this show. Honestly I thought Phoenix was the best character in the whole show until Beast showed up, at least he had an ounce of charisma (that wasn't laced with being absolutely terrible - just go away Shunpei), he was just stifled to hell and back by Medusa threatening to hurl him at Wiseman at even the slightest hint of insubordination. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Or I dunno, maybe have Dragon being some big threat? Like the idea that Wizard is basically one bad day from exploding into a super monster would have been really cool! Maybe have one of those new wizard lose control and have their Phantom inside freak out? The worst part is this is something Dragon outright tells Haruto earlier on, I think around the time he starts collecting Dragon Style upgrades, that if he relies too much on his inner Phantom's power then Dragon's gonna just consume him. Guess not!
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Jan 11, 2014 23:30
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Shaezerus posted:It's not just Medusa and Phoenix - the entire show is an enormous failure reel on part of the villains. They actually end up making negative progress, because any time Haruto or Kousuke can't get to a Gate in time they just decide to save their own drat selves and become wizards. Then it turns out that was the plan all along and gently caress this show. What Dragon meant to say was "Keep feeding me and I'll become a super cool ax. Buy me kids at home!"
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Jan 12, 2014 01:36
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Wizard suffers from having some interesting ideas but completely piss-poor execution 95% of the time. Getting rid of one of the best characters only to replace him with the most annoying one RIP Phoenix, go gently caress yourself Gremlin did nothing to help the total disinterest in the villains' plot. Also the fact that so much of the emotional investment of the last 5-10 episodes hinges on giving a poo poo about Koyomi, who has been around this entire time but never got any development or reason for the viewer to care about her at all really takes out any reason to watch the show all the way through to the end. These are not the only things wrong with Wizard, but for someone like me who actually likes/liked the show (not for what it ended up being, but what it could have been given more effort and solid writing), it's definitely enough to sour the taste from "decent" to "not actually that great" territory.
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Jan 12, 2014 03:53
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I don't know how accurate it is, but the actress playing Koyomi was still working as an idol and her idol work got in the way in production. So the writers had to write around the character more than was reasonable.
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Jan 12, 2014 04:03
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Man what if they just retold Wizard's story in a 2 and a half hour movie, streamlining the whole thing and maybe fixing some dumb plot issues along the way.
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Jan 12, 2014 04:52
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Shaezerus posted:It's not just Medusa and Phoenix - the entire show is an enormous failure reel on part of the villains. They actually end up making negative progress, because any time Haruto or Kousuke can't get to a Gate in time they just decide to save their own drat selves and become wizards. Then it turns out that was the plan all along and gently caress this show. Dante Logos posted:I don't know how accurate it is, but the actress playing Koyomi was still working as an idol and her idol work got in the way in production. So the writers had to write around the character more than was reasonable.
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Jan 12, 2014 05:50
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They were idols? That explains the arc that was basically advertising a single.
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Jan 12, 2014 06:01
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Waffleman_ posted:They were idols? That explains the arc that was basically advertising a single. Yup. Can you guess from which group? Hint: In Gaia Memories of Fate, they find the T2 Accel, Key, and Bird memories. I know nothing of Japanese idols, I just remember this tidbit.
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Jan 12, 2014 07:06
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Waffleman_ posted:They were idols? That explains the arc that was basically advertising a single. They were (Are? Not sure if they've graduated from the group yet) members of the group AKB48. That's why those two get to find the T2 Accel, Key, and Bird Memories in the W Forever movie.
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Jan 12, 2014 07:08
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I always wondered what the Queen Dopant would look like. Edit: And Bomb.
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Jan 12, 2014 08:20
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Potsticker posted:I always wondered what the Queen Dopant would look like. The Queen Dopant was shown, though! It's a literal clone of Queen.
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Jan 12, 2014 17:27
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I remember Queen finding the Gaiamemory, then the Heat dopant lady taking it, but not using it because she got the T2 Heat Gaiamemory instead?
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Jan 12, 2014 18:50
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Potsticker posted:I remember Queen finding the Gaiamemory, then the Heat dopant lady taking it, but not using it because she got the T2 Heat Gaiamemory instead? There are silly things made to promote the movie where minor Gaia Memories like Queen and Bean get used.
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Jan 12, 2014 18:51
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ImpAtom posted:There are silly things made to promote the movie where minor Gaia Memories like Queen and Bean get used. !!! I will have to look those up. I thought I had consumed all W media.
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Jan 12, 2014 18:54
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You haven't seen the W Forever net movies? You're going to love Revenge By Talk Show.
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Jan 12, 2014 19:48
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FortMax posted:You haven't seen the W Forever net movies? You're going to love Revenge By Talk Show.
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Jan 12, 2014 20:04
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Perigryn posted:Poor Kirihiko... The bit with Weather Doctor was so good.
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Jan 12, 2014 22:51
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The bit with Weather Doctor was so good. That actor was amazing. Now I'm sad again. 
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