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Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

The worst thing about seeing anything Dr. Mario (or Luigi, I guess) themed is that I can never get the goddamn music out of my head afterwards.

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see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Dr. Luigi may be the worst Brad has ever been at any game

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Another Person posted:

I went through Blighttown without a shield or rust ring, from the top to the bottom. Took me five tries, and a grand total of an hour and a half, including the sandwich break I took. I don't get what people found so tricky.
You died five times and it took you an hour and a half. You do get what people found so tricky, because apparently you also found it tricky because you died five loving times over 90 minutes.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

Top Gym Pumper posted:

Dr. Luigi may be the worst Brad has ever been at any game

I dunno, Vinny was terrible at it too. Dr. Luigi is no Battle Tetris. Dr. Luigi is no doctor, either.

The Monarch
Jul 8, 2006

Akuma posted:

You died five times and it took you an hour and a half. You do get what people found so tricky, because apparently you also found it tricky because you died five loving times over 90 minutes.

Uh that's like nothing in terms of getting through an area in Dark Souls, especially an area like Blighttown.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


The Monarch posted:

Uh that's like nothing in terms of getting through an area in Dark Souls, especially an area like Blighttown.
It really is if you're only posting to be smug about it. I died three times getting through Blighttown the first time but it was still hard and I could still see why it's a challenge for people.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


I got through the Anor Londo archers literally on my first try, blind. Game is easy. :smug: :smug:

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

Akuma posted:

It really is if you're only posting to be smug about it. I died three times getting through Blighttown the first time but it was still hard and I could still see why it's a challenge for people.

I'm saying Blighttown (and Dark Souls, by extension) is not actually hard when approached right. Three of the times I died were because I couldn't spot the toxic guys. After I killed the first one mind, I never had an issue after. All the time up to then I was not using a shield, so I was used to getting dicked on by arrow guys. One other death was because the dogs are dicks and cannot be hit by a rapier easily. The reason I found it easy I think is because, like Brad, I play cautiously. I fell for a total of one trap in Sen's (the backwards arrow, gotta admit, good trick there). Paying attention to poo poo and being mindful of your surroundings does wonders.

I just legit don't get why people find Blighttown challenging, and also don't get how a shielded run is supposed to make it easier than my no shield run. I guess falling off might be an issue for some people, but it is never really an issue if you pick your battlefield - kite guys to somewhere that you can breathe in. The ground floor is just an exercise in managing your estus well.

The fights are not a real big deal there, so I can only see the lack of flooring as an issue.

Also, I found the way into Anor Londo through the window in like three minutes. :smug:

E: I did find Sen's tricky, mind. A lot of the enemy positioning, with the zappy guys offscreen was not fun. But that is partly a flaw with the camera controls.

Another Person fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jan 16, 2014

YorexTheMad
Apr 16, 2007
OBAMA IS A FALSE MESSIAH

ABANDON ALL HOPE
My problem with Blightown is that it's a relatively poorly-done rehash of Demon's Souls' Valley of Defilement. The same structure is there: downward trek through rickety wooden hovels, followed by poison swamp fun. Valley of Defilement was unpleasant for most players, but it's a lot more effective at doing what it's trying to do and has some notable improvements compared to Blightown.

It's the little things, like how you're fed non-respawning enemies that drop poison cures right as you're starting Defilement's swamp, compared to Blightown where if you're not prepared before you go down you may end up without any curatives handy.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Blightown is just poorly designed. There's a few other just plain bad areas in Dark Souls (who thought invisible platforms were a good idea?).

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
One of the best things about that Dr Luigi QL is finding out this song exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA0Ur7BCxrc

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Manatee Cannon posted:

Blightown is just poorly designed. There's a few other just plain bad areas in Dark Souls (who thought invisible platforms were a good idea?).

Also doesn't help that in the console versions Blighttown is a loving trainwreck in regards to framerate.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

muscles like this? posted:

Also doesn't help that in the console versions Blighttown is a loving trainwreck in regards to framerate.

Oh, yeah, that sucked. The 360 version seems to have pretty bad frame issues throuhout.

rudds
Aug 14, 2013

Did somebody say DOTA?

Another Person posted:

I dunno, Vinny was terrible at it too. Dr. Luigi is no Battle Tetris. Dr. Luigi is no doctor, either.

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

It's kind of mind boggling watching Patrick get butt stomped by the Stray Demon like 10 times in a row.

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005

rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

But if i WATCH the quicklook it means less time posting about how you suck at everything.

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

It's okay Brad we love you all.

YorexTheMad
Apr 16, 2007
OBAMA IS A FALSE MESSIAH

ABANDON ALL HOPE

rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

I've never given into urges to post at internet celebrities but here it goes:

Brad great stream yesterday, keep playing Demon's Souls, it's amazing. You were so close to getting to ride the blue dragon too.

sulley
Aug 15, 2004

Not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

Don't take away their right to complain about everything that doesn't meet their exacting criteria, Brad. It's all they have.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

Yeah, I was thinking that looking at it. The game just looks loose all over. I can't play it due to lacking a WiiU, but do you think that it is a kind of slipperiness that you get used to over time, or is it just kinda bad controls?

E: aha, all these responses. Brad is popular.

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"

rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

What if someone made a MOBA with Dark Souls' combat system?

YorexTheMad
Apr 16, 2007
OBAMA IS A FALSE MESSIAH

ABANDON ALL HOPE

Monster w21 Faces posted:

What if someone made a MOBA with Dark Souls' combat system?

I hate MOBAs but, hell, I'd give it a shot.

TechnoSyndrome
Apr 10, 2009

STARE

The Kins posted:

It's basically a port of the 2008 WiiWare game Dr. Mario Online Rx but with an extra mode and no Miis everywhere.

That such a relatively simple project somehow managed to miss its release year is a small indication of Nintendo's larger problems right now.

Dr. Luigi came out on December 31, 2013, they just didn't look at it until now.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

Plus the Year of Luigi is being extended into this year anyway.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010
Oh, also, Brad, just listening to the AGDQ part of the podcast now and you said you liked watching people do speedruns that are not glitch runthroughs, but just pure skill, watch the F-Zero GX speedrun. It contained probably the most technically skilled play of any game I have ever seen. Very impressive.

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


Not to mention the guy that beat Super Punch Out blindfolded

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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rudds posted:

You know, we both mentioned more than once how weirdly slippery the controls are in that game. You can hear it in the Quick Look! It's right there! In the Quick Look!

It doesn't help that you spent a minute and half destorying the same 2x4 area before you realized "Oh hey, that's right. The viruses".

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"
Man, Demon's Souls looks much better than Dark Souls.

rudds
Aug 14, 2013

Did somebody say DOTA?

sulley posted:

Don't take away their right to complain about everything that doesn't meet their exacting criteria, Brad. It's all they have.

Those posts weren't even unreasonable, I just wanted to point out in this case there was sort of a reason we were (admittedly) playing like garbage.

I do often wonder about the psychology of raging against other people playing video games, though. What mental itch does it scratch? Is it a desire to feel superior about something? Indignation that others would watch less than perfect play? I don't give a poo poo how people play games when I watch them so it genuinely baffles me why others get so disturbingly worked up about it. Someone should commission a study.

KoB
May 1, 2009

rudds posted:

Those posts weren't even unreasonable, I just wanted to point out in this case there was sort of a reason we were (admittedly) playing like garbage.

I do often wonder about the psychology of raging against other people playing video games, though. What mental itch does it scratch? Is it a desire to feel superior about something? Indignation that others would watch less than perfect play? I don't give a poo poo how people play games when I watch them so it genuinely baffles me why others get so disturbingly worked up about it. Someone should commission a study.

I think at some point it just turned into trying to get a rile out of you and get you to post :v:

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010
I don't particularly mind about the quality of play when I watch GB or something like that. If I wanted to watch pro play, I would look for pro play. Lord knows it is easy to find out there on the internet.

But I am watching for more than that - to be informed and entertained. That is the main reason I watch/listen to Giant Bomb. You guys deliver that.

Maybe people just don't like watching people play in a way they feel is wasting their time or something like that. Also, what KoB said.

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>

rudds posted:

I do often wonder about the psychology of raging against other people playing video games, though. What mental itch does it scratch? Is it a desire to feel superior about something? Indignation that others would watch less than perfect play? I don't give a poo poo how people play games when I watch them so it genuinely baffles me why others get so disturbingly worked up about it. Someone should commission a study.

I wouldn't say anybody is "raging", some people just like talking poo poo a lot. Compare and contrast people getting pissed off at sports.

StoneyAssassin
Feb 19, 2003

rudds posted:

Those posts weren't even unreasonable, I just wanted to point out in this case there was sort of a reason we were (admittedly) playing like garbage.

I do often wonder about the psychology of raging against other people playing video games, though. What mental itch does it scratch? Is it a desire to feel superior about something? Indignation that others would watch less than perfect play? I don't give a poo poo how people play games when I watch them so it genuinely baffles me why others get so disturbingly worked up about it. Someone should commission a study.

I think you just explained the internet. Besides porn of course.

Another Person
Oct 21, 2010

StoneyAssassin posted:

I think you just explained the internet. Besides porn of course.

Yeah. Porn is more about feeling good from something, than superior.

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way

rudds posted:

I do often wonder about the psychology of raging against other people playing video games, though. What mental itch does it scratch? Is it a desire to feel superior about something? Indignation that others would watch less than perfect play? I don't give a poo poo how people play games when I watch them so it genuinely baffles me why others get so disturbingly worked up about it. Someone should commission a study.

I guess the idea is you and your colleagues are assumed by some to be King poo poo of All Video Games because of your chosen profession, when in reality you guys play way, way too many games to invest that kind of time into each one. So they see you doing something poorly or not knowing about a certain mechanic in game X, and you're held accountable for it despite being incapable of putting in the hours they have. Then they get to (unfairly) question your credibility, because how can someone be a proper critic of video games if they don't understand you can use the raised drawbridge to hop over that one building in the Original course of Crazy Taxi?

loving plebes

Depths
Apr 15, 2009

SENPAI

KoB posted:

I think at some point it just turned into trying to get a rile out of you and get you to post :v:

I don't think anyone should do this.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

I do like how it seems like people in this thread will joke and talk about how Brad isn't good at games, until Brad posts here and then everyone talks about how silly and childish it is.

hitze
Aug 28, 2007
Give me a dollar. No, the twenty. This is gonna blow your mind...

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

I do like how it seems like people in this thread will joke and talk about how Brad isn't good at games, until Brad posts here and then everyone talks about how silly and childish it is.

Just like how posts come flying out of the woodwork when he posts ;)

Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.
Brad you should listen to people in the studio instead of dismissing their comments because they're always loving right and you just spend another 30 mintues doing the same wrong thing you've been doing

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Ugly John
Jul 18, 2009
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

I do like how it seems like people in this thread will joke and talk about how Brad isn't good at games, until Brad posts here and then everyone talks about how silly and childish it is.

You're right; it's so weird! They even use different usernames before and after!

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