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socialsecurity posted:He had Cones of Dunshire and the accounting office and his dinner with Chris so he hasn't been sidelined as badly this season as last. But yeah characters are turning into cliches hard, I am really really tired of Tom alternating between "crappy business" and "girl that Tom thinks is to hot for him" plots. Cliches? I think they're being their characters. They progress, they stagnate, they have goals. When have Tom's goals not been "Dood w/ an awesome girlfriend" and "Business Mogul?" If they were turning into cliches, I would have Donna talking about her Benz every episode, and I would have Leslie hyper no matter what. We finally got to see what Leslie's bottom is in "Recall." I feel it's quite life like in the sense of two steps forward, one step back. Especially when talking about government and bureaucracies. Keep in mind that we'll have Chris and Ann leaving in a few episodes, things are going to be shaken up.
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Boywhiz88 posted:Cliches? I think they're being their characters. They progress, they stagnate, they have goals. When have Tom's goals not been "Dood w/ an awesome girlfriend" and "Business Mogul?" This is exactly the reason why Jerry gets poo poo on every episode. He's living the dream (unlike every other character). While he's had very little development per se, layers have been revealed that he's probably the happiest character on the show 
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darkerthantheday posted:Was disappointed after the hiatus to watch another Leslie Campaign/Tom business venture story after *literally* just watching their previous efforts end. Season 5 was kinda lame but 30 Rock seasons 6 and 7 were the best.
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Funhilde posted:I read this article the other day. I think I'll share it the next time someone asks why I don't really care for BBT. Thank you for this. I have a hard time expressing why I don't like BBT but love P&R and this sums it up perfectly.
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hamsystem posted:Thank you for this. I have a hard time expressing why I don't like BBT but love P&R and this sums it up perfectly. Exactly how I felt reading it. Thanks Funhilde for the link! I have the same issue with a number of comedies as I do with Big Bang Theory. I'd just never put together that it's always the same issue, just a different setting. Mercaptopropyl fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jan 14, 2014 |
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I didn't much care for this episode but I like that they seem to realize they're on a timeline and they should get Knope the gently caress out of Pawnee.
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Chris Pratt at the awards Nice to see him having a successful career beyond the show. He deserves it
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leidend posted:Chris Pratt at the awards Bert Macklin, FBI 
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FInally figured out that Jean-Ralphio's sister Mona-Lisa is Doug's wife on "House of Lies," so that's a 3-fer crossover right there.
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Chris Knight posted:FInally figured out that Jean-Ralphio's sister Mona-Lisa is Doug's wife on "House of Lies," so that's a 3-fer crossover right there. She also did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF9-sEbqDvU
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I just saved your bacon. Impossible, you don't know where I hide it.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I just saved your bacon. *looks up* A great payoff.
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The Ben and Ann/Chris plots were pretty weak. Should have devoted more time to Leslie/Tom/Ron.
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I love P&R as much as anyone, but does anyone else find themselves completely losing interest? I've barely paid attention to the last two episodes.
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Zero One posted:Do NOT tell Ron his is a good government employee. That ending sequence as the credits rolled was hilarious.
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Pointblank` posted:I love P&R as much as anyone, but does anyone else find themselves completely losing interest? I've barely paid attention to the last two episodes. Yeah, it's requiring effort these days. The whole thing feels as though it's going in circles, literally like Ann and Chris in the jewelry store.
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Pointblank` posted:I love P&R as much as anyone, but does anyone else find themselves completely losing interest? I've barely paid attention to the last two episodes. Sadly, yes. The high point for me was the conclusion of Leslie's first election for city councillor. The plots just don't seem to be going anywhere like they used to and we're back to business as usual. Andy, April, Leslie, Larry, and Tom are all back to being P&R employees again, despite all having stories to get them into something else. Heck, even Ben's back to almost the same deal he had before.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Sadly, yes. The high point for me was the conclusion of Leslie's first election for city councillor. The point of the last episode is to show that the characters have outgrown relying on Leslie to make the Parks and Recreation department a function government organization. That's the opposite of business as usual. April and Tom are reliable, independent employees with their own visions of what they could do with the job and how to accomplish something. They both make competent and persuasive presentations because they followed Leslie's example. I think it was completely touching and a good episode to show how the field has changed since the election. Also, of course the Chris and Ann scenes went around in circles. That's the joke of the B plot. That's why the salesman was getting angry. I actually thought it was very sweet too.
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Man whatever. I was laughing pretty consistently throughout the whole thing. The only thing I thought was a little off was that I figured Ben and Andy were using that elaborate prank story into dumping water on them or something. The bloody Ben selfie was pretty great though. Even Ann and Chris' story, I loved them ruining the ring shop owner's day and their proposal in front of a choking Larry holy poo poo And yeah that whole bit at the end with Ron and the award was hysterical
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I thought Ron actually going to check his bacon was going a bit too far. His quick upward glance was perfect by itself. I could watch flustered Ben all day.
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drainpipe posted:I could watch flustered Ben all day. Ben absolutely freaking out in the police station was perfection
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I still enjoy the show and find it funny, but I definitely see what people mean as far as a certain staleness. There are a lot of plot elements that seem to be repeated quite often. It's sort of like the opening part where she insists on doing things by the book with her job interview with Ron, but then when it doesn't go her way, she immediately relents and expects the special treatment. A bit of foreshadowing for her return and discovery that nobody really needs her, which naturally she took the wrong way and tried to dominate everything again, also trying to sabotage Tom, which I think has also happened before. That's classic Leslie of course, but it feels like nothing's really progressing anymore. When she was campaigning for City Council, there were a lot of "my boyfriend punched a guy and it was awesome so sorry if that makes you not vote for me" moments, but it was all leading to something. Same when he tried to get various legislation passed. Now it's like we're all waiting while they stall for that next big thing, be it Chris & Ann leaving or Leslie going for a higher gig.
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Macaluso posted:Ben absolutely freaking out in the police station was perfection follow...to me. *stops, bends over in panic*
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OmegaBR posted:also trying to sabotage Tom, which I think has also happened before.
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I still feel like we're in the mid-season slump that Parks and Rec likes to do where we've finished one plot and we're about to kick into another. This episode wasn't fantastic, but there were a lot of parts I really liked (in particular, Ben's run-in with the law). I'll be disappointed if things don't pick up soon, but this mid-season slump is pretty typical for Parks and Rec, IMO. Ben had some great character moments in a Leslie-less plot, though, and that was pretty nice. "Let's talk about health insurance. Your dependents don't have it anymore. Want some illegal cheese?"
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This is the first year I've been watching both Parks and Community and it's making Parks look reeeeeally bad comparatively. That said, Ben at the police station was funny.
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Sagacity posted:To me it looked like she was deliberately doing a bad job so Tom's proposal would succeed. She even was smiling when Tom gave his prez.
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This episode almost felt like some other sitcom writer watched season 1, was given the cliffs notes on how the characters have changed since then, and wrote a script. There were a few genuinely great P&R moments, most of which have been pointed out, but it telegraphed so much, over-explained jokes, had some punchlines that fell completely flat, etc. Wow, apparently this episode was the writer's first Parks ep, so I might not be too far off. Apparently he wrote for 30 Rock in its last two seasons, which I have fond memories of, so maybe he just didn't really "get" P&R, I don't know.
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A big problem I had with this episode was, haven't we seen Leslie doing her P&R job during her time as town councilwoman? Since when was it supposed to be that she hadn't been in the parks department since getting elected? I don't know what exactly they've been aiming for with the whole Leslie job thing since it was brought up during the recall episodes but it's been really sloppily handled. I also wasn't a big fan of Leslie reverting back to her really grating jerk personality for a lot of the episode. I did like the Ben prank and Ron's reaction to having his bacon saved but this is a disturbing trend for P&R to have two really weak episodes in a row.
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Chairman Capone posted:A big problem I had with this episode was, haven't we seen Leslie doing her P&R job during her time as town councilwoman? Since when was it supposed to be that she hadn't been in the parks department since getting elected? I don't know what exactly they've been aiming for with the whole Leslie job thing since it was brought up during the recall episodes but it's been really sloppily handled. Yeah they specifically mention how she could do both and she had several episodes where she was doing park crap so I do not understand why she was applying for her own job or they acted like she hasn't seen them like every single day.
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