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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

twistedmentat posted:

Ah so not new york, just London. I was wondering why I wasn't finding anything. I figured you'd have to click on "search the secret world" to get game related content. but I could just look at game wiki instead.

I believe the original intention was to have clothing stores in every faction hub, but they nixed it when they decided to make London more of an interfactional central zone.

Instead it seems like they want to give every faction home separate reasons to turn up. While London has the clothing store and barber, New York has the entrance to the raid and the plastic surgeon. Seoul doesn't ahve anythign yet, but when they eventually add it the tattoo parlor will be there.

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guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
You have to be careful about searching for answers because there are sites that give solutions now. You want to be doing authentic research, probably, not just looking up the answers.

Variable Haircut
Jan 25, 2012
The ingame browser was designed to show the args and hide spoiler sites.

Also dont holdyour breath for the tattoo parlor, development stopped months ago.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
Huh, I didn't know that. Neat.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I've used the wiki more times than I'd like to admit for some research quests, but sometimes the clues are too obtuse. How would you know you need to kill yourself to get inside the jail in Kingsmouth...or still be dead to follow the white raven?

Variable Haircut
Jan 25, 2012

twistedmentat posted:

I've used the wiki more times than I'd like to admit for some research quests, but sometimes the clues are too obtuse. How would you know you need to kill yourself to get inside the jail in Kingsmouth...or still be dead to follow the white raven?

Yeah, Something Wicked is a good example of how nutty some of the investigations missions can get. It didn't require a masters degree in Google-Fo, but it did require the player to think outside the box and take all the mission text literally. There was a statement the guy in the cell made either in the police report or newspaper that said 'If you want to know the truth ask my ghost', so some player who is more comfortable outside the box decided to kill themselves and check his cell. Should I have spoiler tagged that? Meh, whatever.

Pinely
Jul 23, 2013
College Slice

twistedmentat posted:

I've used the wiki more times than I'd like to admit for some research quests, but sometimes the clues are too obtuse. How would you know you need to kill yourself to get inside the jail in Kingsmouth...or still be dead to follow the white raven?

Admittedly, I've cheated several times. Morse code is involved at one point and I spent about a half an hour trying to learn morse code and just said gently caress it. I think everyone has a point where they're like "alright, I'm going to hit unfair.co or the wiki". I spent a ton of time on the cipher because that just sucked me right in and I didn't want to cheat, whereas my friend cheated on that bit but loved the morse code (apparently Boy Scouts learn morse code).

I also remember traveling to the actual Lighthouse for an investigation mission that only wanted me to find a picture of a Lighthouse. Did not figure that one out until someone in chat let it slip that you didn't leave to Kingsmouth for that mission. It was a painful run to that point in QL1 gear and I felt a little let down that it wasn't as clever as I though it was.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Pinely posted:

Admittedly, I've cheated several times. Morse code is involved at one point and I spent about a half an hour trying to learn morse code and just said gently caress it.

I used a morse code translating app on my smartphone for that. My character has a smartphone herself, why wouldn't she just do the same? :v:

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

twistedmentat posted:

I've used the wiki more times than I'd like to admit for some research quests, but sometimes the clues are too obtuse. How would you know you need to

There are clues. And put spoilers on that poo poo, christ.

Clairetic
Nov 3, 2008

I don't even know my own credit card information.
There's a thin line between 'thinking outside the box' and 'not knowing that the game mechanics are even capable of representing what you're supposed to do'.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

One of my friends picked TSW up over christmas because I told him he'd like the investigation missions and everything up to the end game, and he figured out something wicked on his own. He said that it mentioned talking to a ghost, so he figured the best way to talk to a ghost was to be one and went out to let zombies beat him to death to find out so some people really do just figure this poo poo out and love the game for it. At this point, it's really one of the biggest draws the game has to it. The only one that I didn't think was very fair was The Vision, and that's mainly because you kind of had to have known where you were going to know where to go for the last part, unless you spent a lot of time exploring the map before coming across Madame Roget (which isn't very likely). Unless there's another mention of the bit of Kingsmouth town lore sitting around town that I just missed.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
I hear what everyone means about finding their own personal line for when to just give up and check unfair.co or whatever. I was good about most of the research things (like, for example, the diagnoses for the Transylvania medical mysteries) but had a horrible time when it came to figuring out obtuse game mechanics things. Also, anything involving reading music, since I only learned to read bass clef. :v:

Edit: Doesn't Madame Roget just show up on the map as a questgiver?

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
Madame Rogêt does definitely show up on the map, although the alley that leads to her place isn't super obvious.

Variable Haircut
Jan 25, 2012
Don't all the NPC with missions show up on the mini map? Or are my fond memories of the early game deceiving me.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


My testlive ban was lifted just to have found they disabled my account. Not that Funcom actually took my bug reports seriously anyway.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)
A random raid Zhaan and I joined today was using terms like "Funcom'd." It was like a universe-B goon cabal.

Len posted:

My testlive ban was lifted just to have found they disabled my account. Not that Funcom actually took my bug reports seriously anyway.

Your forums account? :(

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



I stopped playing a couple of months back, about halfway through transylvania, but I just picked the game up again because of how fun the investigations are.

Some of them are bullshit, but I mostly have trouble with the ones that involve obscure game mechanics - like how the gently caress am I supposed to realise that not only do I have to /emote at some statues but that /covereyes is an emote - but after that I realised that the game's going to do that sort of thing and it wasn't too bad.

The only one that really hosed me up so hard I looked at a cheat was in Egypt and it turned out that the game has a day/night cycle that you have to take into account because duh. I've also given up a few missions where I was completely stumped, but they didn't seem unfair, just hard. I've also used phone apps or websites to decode things because gently caress doing it by hand.

I kind of forgot how to combat, so I started again and it turns out I've forgotten a lot of the investigations anyway, so hooray replay value.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

AlphaDog posted:

Some of them are bullshit, but I mostly have trouble with the ones that involve obscure game mechanics - like how the gently caress am I supposed to realise that not only do I have to /emote at some statues but that /covereyes is an emote - but after that I realised that the game's going to do that sort of thing and it wasn't too bad.
I dunno if it was because I'd been caning the investigations that weekend but I tried emoting right away on that mission.

To bring the thread back around to Machine Tyrant chat, I finally got around to playing the Starcraft 2 expansion this week and the first boss fight is a massive robot that marks the floor with targets you have to avoid. Turns out I can avoid that poo poo all day long if I'm not using WASD to move around. :v:

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

I'm interested in checking this game out, if anyone could throw me a trial code that'd be awesome.

Variable Haircut
Jan 25, 2012

Faceless Clock posted:

I'm interested in checking this game out, if anyone could throw me a trial code that'd be awesome.

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Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

Thanks!

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Its on sale on steam a fair bit, grabbed it during the xmas sale.


Figured I'll just focus on getting to QL3 for now, rather than just focusing on a single skill which won't really come into use until much later.

The That'll leave a mark quest is screwy. Every time I get near town, about 5 crazy rippers spawn and just slaughter me and the escort.

twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jan 17, 2014

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Could someone toss me a trial code? Just noticed there's another sale, but I'd like to try before I buy.

Yes, I know, I can be absurdly cheap some days.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

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Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Thanks!

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
I was thinking about picking this up since it's on sale. I usually play through MMOs with just a friend or two, is this a good game for duoing? It seemed like most of the story was single-player and I wasn't sure if the dungeons were all intended for groups of like 6 people.

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002
You can definitely do a lot of the quests together, though you'll probably end up breezing through some of the content that way. But it can be fun running around hunting rares or doing investigations with people.

The dungeons are pretty standard 5-man, Heal/Tank/DPS setups, but they are really well done. Very little trash and some incredibly fun boss fights. This is especially true when playing with people that aren't twinked as Hell so the fights are actually difficult.

My biggest suggestion would be to play on... Arcadia I think. The RP server. There's not much of a formal Goon presence, so Grim is a bit of a bust, but Arcadia has players at all times and is, iirc, the largest server. People are kind of quiet when you see them running around but if you take initiative to talk in General you can get a lot of socialization. It also helps that the playerbase is a LOT more chill in TSW and are typically friendly. I haven't seen a lot of trolling or Barrens-chat level bullshit that seems to soak into most MMOs.

Variable Haircut
Jan 25, 2012

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

I was thinking about picking this up since it's on sale. I usually play through MMOs with just a friend or two, is this a good game for duoing? It seemed like most of the story was single-player and I wasn't sure if the dungeons were all intended for groups of like 6 people.

Groups are 5 people, and the majority of the single player stuff can be done as a duo. There are some single player only instances which can annoy people who dont have their gear and skills set for it.

Server choice only affects PvP, you can and do play with others. There are rarely more then two instances of a zone, unless golems are running around.

Variable Haircut fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jan 18, 2014

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



e: wrong thread

Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jan 18, 2014

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I applied on the website. What server should I join while I wait for it to go through? As Templars, if it matters.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

RagnarokAngel posted:

I applied on the website. What server should I join while I wait for it to go through? As Templars, if it matters.

Doesn't matter, since you can team with everyone anyway. The only thing it really changes is which versionof the PvP zones you wind up in, but since PvP here is awful it doesn't even matter there.

G Prestige
Jul 11, 2008

What do you want me to say?
Oh dammit it's on sale again? I JUST paid $59.99 for it on steam. Any idea if steam applies sales after the purchase, or am I SOL?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

G Prestige posted:

Oh dammit it's on sale again? I JUST paid $59.99 for it on steam. Any idea if steam applies sales after the purchase, or am I SOL?

Email support and if its the first time this has happened they sometimes will do it just this once. It's sort of your mileage may vary though.

Habits
Feb 25, 2008


Assume an accursed shape
cleanse through purity within
Is the Massive Edition worth getting over standard?

Zhaan
Aug 7, 2012

Always like this.

Cheston posted:

A random raid Zhaan and I joined today was using terms like "Funcom'd." It was like a universe-B goon cabal.


Your forums account? :(

I am up for random raids whenever.

I think I need a better AR/ele build, though. The one I have does extremely poor DPS.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)

Zhaan posted:

I think I need a better AR/ele build, though. The one I have does extremely poor DPS.

These are very true!

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Zhaan posted:

I am up for random raids whenever.

I think I need a better AR/ele build, though. The one I have does extremely poor DPS.

Toshimo's patented AR/Ele build:

Step 1: Press erry buttan.
Step 2: MOAR BUTTANZ!!!
Step 3: gently caress DA POLICE.

Grats on all the deeps.

Presteign
Aug 8, 2004
consent is overrated

Can someone toss me a trial code?

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)

Presteign posted:

Can someone toss me a trial code?

Here ya go:

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Presteign
Aug 8, 2004
consent is overrated

Cheston posted:

Here ya go:

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Thank you!

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