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evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Mr. Fix It posted:

pkill is what all the cool kids use (at least on Linux and some BSDs).

Which also isn't portable to "real" UNIX. Grep, ps, and xargs work everywhere.

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WHERE MY HAT IS AT
Jan 7, 2011
I prefer QNX's slay command :black101:

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:

I prefer QNX's slay command :black101:

Sadly, that command seems to have been co-opted by this dumb command in Debian and its derivatives :smith: http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=slay&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+7.0+wheezy&format=html&locale=en

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


evol262 posted:

Which also isn't portable to "real" UNIX. Grep, ps, and xargs work everywhere.

Question about your `ps` usage: Why the 'u' option? `ps ax` seems to get the process name and PID fine. Is the format less consistent than `ps aux` or something?

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Mr. Fix It posted:

Question about your `ps` usage: Why the 'u' option? `ps ax` seems to get the process name and PID fine. Is the format less consistent than `ps aux` or something?

Because it let's you easily grep out user, arguments (probably with auxwww), or whatever else you want to filter on with the rest of the one liner the same. aux or auxwww gets you all the information you need on all systems

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



A ticket trojan came in, and trend micro WFBS can't detect the new version of zBot/Zeus.
:suicide:

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011
A ticket came in:

Japanese customer posted:

According to your user guide,unlike <thing 1> which requires <a bunch of user effort> to update changes, updating changes to <thing 2> is dynamic.
It takes several minutes to happen. This is not "dynamic"

Thanks for trying to correct the English of a bunch of native speakers, guys. Not even a UK/US issue as the user guide was prepared by natives from both of those countries. If the word were "realtime" you may have a valid complaint - even though the meaning in an IT context is radically different - but seriously, you opened an actual ticket for this?

(Still not as bad as the time when my Japanese co-workers, in partnership with the Japanese employees of the corporation we were working for, "fixed" my English in a product that was being designed for the UK market, while I was away getting married / on honeymoon (in the UK even!). I'm from London.)

Frozen Peach
Aug 25, 2004

garbage man from a garbage can
A stack of memory came in! Our servers are going to be so much happier in a few days. :3:

Nerdrock
Jan 31, 2006

ookiimarukochan posted:

A ticket came in:


Thanks for trying to correct the English of a bunch of native speakers, guys. Not even a UK/US issue as the user guide was prepared by natives from both of those countries. If the word were "realtime" you may have a valid complaint - even though the meaning in an IT context is radically different - but seriously, you opened an actual ticket for this?

(Still not as bad as the time when my Japanese co-workers, in partnership with the Japanese employees of the corporation we were working for, "fixed" my English in a product that was being designed for the UK market, while I was away getting married / on honeymoon (in the UK even!). I'm from London.)

can you just reply with this?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Nerdrock posted:

can you just reply with this?



You're assuming that people living in Japan saw and remembered The Princess Bride, and that it's as much of a cultural metaphor there that it is here that people would pick up on that.

:spergin:

Nerdrock
Jan 31, 2006

That's a good point, but I think the reference is only the punchline. I'd say the heart of the message can transcend cultures regardless.

heck, you can just reply the statement in text.

I don't think "dynamic" means what you think it means. :)

geera
May 20, 2003
A text message came in... at 10:30 last night, from a manager who just heard a big virus is going to hit soon via Hallmark e-cards! It's very important that we warn everyone!

:commissar:

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Nerdrock posted:

I don't think "dynamic" means what you think it means. :)

Or if you're feeling extra nasty, you can dress up that statement in complex language, as idiomatic and esoteric as possible.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011
Haven't replied yet (timezones!), but when I do it will probably be something like "Actually, it IS dynamic. Please stop sending us dumb tickets" - had to close one of them yesterday with "please stop sending us dumb tickets" so there's always the hope that it will eventually sink in.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Tell him if it bothers him that much he's welcome to release his own fansub of your manual.

user on probation
Nov 1, 2012

removed
Today I had a user who was smart enough to turn off "hide protecting operating system files" but not smart enough not to accidentally delete NTLDR and stop his PC from booting. Of course he is a VP so he gets full administrator rights and never lets me see his computer. I had to sneak into his office and copy over the NTLDR from another windows XP box while he was out picking up his kids from school. He just wanted me to give him an XP install disc and come back later, probably after he had accidentally wiped his drive, presumably to spend thousands of dollars on data recovery

user on probation fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 17, 2014

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Windows XP? Nice. Good luck cleaning viruses off it once Microsoft stops supplying updates.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

tehloki posted:

never lets me see his computer

Porn, possibly of the illegal variant.

slightpirate
Dec 26, 2006
i am the dance commander

tehloki posted:

"...never lets me see his computer." "...while he was out picking up his kids from school."

Infidelity, Drug use, or plain old fashioned paranoia?

e: or violent porn. ^^

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.
Not sure if it was here or another thread, but there was a legit source for MS ISOs posted somewhere.

I need a copy of XP MCE 2005 (stop laughing at the back!) for a reinstall, anyone have any ideas?

Edit: Crap, I may actually need a Dell one...

Biggus Dickus fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 17, 2014

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Biggus Dickus posted:

Not sure if it was here or another thread, but there was a legit source for MS ISOs posted somewhere.

I need a copy of XP MCE 2005 (stop laughing at the back!) for a reinstall, anyone have any ideas?

You're probably thinking of Digital River, which I think only has 7 freely available. MSDN is probably your best bet, does your company have a subscription you can use?

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

stubblyhead posted:

You're probably thinking of Digital River, which I think only has 7 freely available. MSDN is probably your best bet, does your company have a subscription you can use?

Actually... that's quite likely. Thanks.

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

totalnewbie posted:

Porn, possibly of the illegal variant.

Yeah I sure hope you have the "you can't ever look at my computer" stuff in writing for when he's inevitably caught and blames IT for not keeping hackers off his computer.

Doubly so if he has things that would justify spending thousands on data recovery on, on his computer, with no backups.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

Biggus Dickus posted:

Not sure if it was here or another thread, but there was a legit source for MS ISOs posted somewhere.

I need a copy of XP MCE 2005 (stop laughing at the back!) for a reinstall, anyone have any ideas?

Edit: Crap, I may actually need a Dell one...

I'll have to double check when I get home, but I'm pretty sure I have the install discs for this. They're not Dell branded, they're the typical OEM that you could order from Newegg. Pretty sure it should still work though.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


jre posted:

A ticket trojan came in, and trend micro WFBS couldn't detect a loving virus if it were named C:\virus.exe and wrote "THIS IS A VIRUS" in WFBS' logs.

loving fixed. I am so tired of Trend's bullshit. We're testing Eset's stuff, and if it's even marginally simple to manage and push out we're switching all our clients. Trend isn't as bad as McAfee, I'll grant you that, but in the 4 years I've been dealing with it, all it's done is tell me when I have a virus. Not fix it you understand, it's like the engineer in Galaxy Quest just going "heeeyyyy, guysssss, they tell me that you've got a virus, so....good luck with that".

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!

Potato Alley posted:

loving fixed. I am so tired of Trend's bullshit. We're testing Eset's stuff, and if it's even marginally simple to manage and push out we're switching all our clients. Trend isn't as bad as McAfee, I'll grant you that, but in the 4 years I've been dealing with it, all it's done is tell me when I have a virus. Not fix it you understand, it's like the engineer in Galaxy Quest just going "heeeyyyy, guysssss, they tell me that you've got a virus, so....good luck with that".

The only problem I've had with ESET remote admin is sometimes the push installs will bomb out for reasons you wouldn't even expect and the install log won't really tell you why.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


The only reason I consider Trend an upgrade over McAfee is because I never witnessed Trend randomly deciding to delete system files like McAfee did. However I'm pretty sure the only reason it didn't delete system files was, because like you mentioned, it never deleted anything.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
Trend is an AV enough for MSP's to call an A/V and still enough to make money off virus removal.

It's best thing is that it works to ensure an IT need for some users.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

Actually telling you you have a virus, and then doing nothing about it, is a huge upgrade over what McAfee, sorry Intel McSecurity, does!

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Lum posted:

Intel McSecurity

Oh god, please tell me they really named it this.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

Che Delilas posted:

Oh god, please tell me they really named it this.

The actual new name is "Intel Security", sorry.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
Is there a goon consensus on what AV is actually worth its salt? I service computers for a living and the only paid one we sell now is Kaspersky, which we've had good luck with -- we almost never see clients who are using it come back with serious infections. Haven't given the latest version a good testing yet though. For free ones, I would have said MSE a year ago, but lately I've seen more an more infections missed by it, and I gather even MS is admitting that it's slipping in quality.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma
A client my previous company supported had a HORRIBLE instance of Kaspersky loving up 4 months or so. They updated from Kaspersky Security Centre 9 to 10, and it bricked every single computer running Kaspersky on the network; they were completely unresponsive. We had to send someone to site and restore from a VHD from the night before just so we could get on the server to fix the drat thing. Nightmare.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Entropic posted:

Is there a goon consensus on what AV is actually worth its salt? I service computers for a living and the only paid one we sell now is Kaspersky, which we've had good luck with -- we almost never see clients who are using it come back with serious infections. Haven't given the latest version a good testing yet though. For free ones, I would have said MSE a year ago, but lately I've seen more an more infections missed by it, and I gather even MS is admitting that it's slipping in quality.

We provide ESET for our clients but client AV should be the last line of defense.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Potato Alley posted:

loving fixed. I am so tired of Trend's bullshit. We're testing Eset's stuff, and if it's even marginally simple to manage and push out we're switching all our clients. Trend isn't as bad as McAfee, I'll grant you that, but in the 4 years I've been dealing with it, all it's done is tell me when I have a virus. Not fix it you understand, it's like the engineer in Galaxy Quest just going "heeeyyyy, guysssss, they tell me that you've got a virus, so....good luck with that".

Trend is pretty worthless, I can't count the number of times I've worked with clients that got some serious virus or malware that almost every other AV program had a fix for YEARS ago. The company I work for uses Symantec Cloud (SEP) and it's been alright so far, not a huge resource hog and catches most of what comes through (the only exception recently being Cryptolocker when it first came out).

Trend and McAfee can eat a dick, the 2 most worthless AV companies, period. Kaspersky is alright, and some clients have had ESET with no problems, I'd go with either of those over anything else.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Sophos is very good as well. Deploying the AV is easy and the management console is very well done.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast
We use F-Secure, upon my recommendation based on research, and an anecdote posted on these boards at one time. It's been working away nicely for some time now, and it doesn't make much of a fuss. The management tools are decent enough.

Beat the piss out of Sophos that it replaced, in my experience anyway.

ghana rheya
Dec 26, 2013
Welp. Spending the weekend at work because admin being replaced goes: "DC was acting funny. Sooo, I clicked something and now it's formatted."

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

01010100011010000111001
00110100101101100011011
000110010101110010
I'd hate to lean on a meme but, that escalated quickly.

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jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



Potato Alley posted:

loving fixed.

Lol, We're considering replacing trend when the subscription comes to an end. Eset seems to be well considered, any other credible alternatives?


edit: The eset exchange plugin is licensed per mailbox not per server :stare:

jre fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jan 19, 2014

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