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I found more obtuse the location system, it was really exasperating not being able to attack because the demons were outside of my range  Thanks to the inmunity on Lilim and Gozuh- Tenoh I spent the better part of the fights on auto battle, just taking control at the bosses (and I never bothered to get Persona cards, the fusion system was terrible)
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One thing I really liked was the special moves that would trigger from your persona when you were low on health, like a full heal or attack. It made it seem like the persona had a mind of its own. Also I liked having machine-guns.
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Jan 15, 2014 08:13
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The_Frag_Man posted:One thing I really liked was the special moves that would trigger from your persona when you were low on health, like a full heal or attack. This happened?! What?! Is this some secret mechanic the game never explained or did I just not get the super best persona that had this ability?
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Jan 15, 2014 08:25
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laplace posted:This happened?! What?! When low on health your persona would do some move on its own sometimes. I think it only happened if you had max rank, maybe affinity effected it too.
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Jan 15, 2014 08:48
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ChaosArgate posted:The experience system in Persona 1 is one of the worst things I've tried. Who thought it was a good idea to give experience based on how much a character was used in battle? The PC port of P1 actually evenly divides player EXP, among other game changes, none of which were carried over to P1P.
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Jan 15, 2014 13:59
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Man, Atlus did everything they could to make you regret wanting to choose the Neutral path in SMTIV, huh?
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Jan 16, 2014 06:28
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Man, Atlus did everything they could to make you regret wanting to choose the Neutral path in SMTIV, huh? That is what you get for having a heart full of neutrality.
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Jan 16, 2014 06:31
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I hope they end up releasing an expanded edition down the line that includes an actually satisfying ending.
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Jan 16, 2014 06:37
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I hope they end up releasing an expanded edition down the line that includes an actually satisfying ending. The Chaos ending was completely satisfying.
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Jan 16, 2014 06:38
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I hope they end up releasing an expanded edition down the line that includes an I agree.
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Jan 16, 2014 06:44
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Look I both didn't want to kill Isabeau and take on both God and Lucifer at the same time. Is that so wrong? Do I truly deserve all of these sidequests because I want to wreck every deity I possibly can?
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Jan 16, 2014 06:55
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Speaking of SMT IV, the soundtrack is finally getting released on February 26th. 112 tracks on four CDs. 
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Jan 16, 2014 07:05
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alcharagia posted:The Chaos ending was completely satisfying. I disagree. It was the first route I went for and I thought it was boring. Although it's hard to top TDE from Nocturne so I guess I was going to be let down regardless.
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Jan 16, 2014 07:10
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 The cover they showed off does list the copyright dates as 1992 to 2012, which is odd. The game came out in 2013 and Index was still kicking then.
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Jan 16, 2014 07:11
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That cover is pretty metal, god drat.
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Jan 16, 2014 07:12
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What's metal about a round hand-shaped mirror?
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Jan 16, 2014 07:14
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Law ending master race  Choosing Walter over Jonathan? How dare you.
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Jan 16, 2014 07:19
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I hope they end up releasing an expanded edition down the line that includes an actually satisfying ending. I'll be satisified if they remove the bullshit way to found the fiends. Assholes
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http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/17/persona-q-shadow-labyrinth-introduces-chie-akihiko/ More Persona Q videos. Chie and Akihiko
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Dehry posted:http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/17/persona-q-shadow-labyrinth-introduces-chie-akihiko/ 
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Jan 17, 2014 21:00
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It's all Rick Moranis' fault.
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These trailers make me wonder from whose perspective you're actually following through the game. Is it a choice of MC from 3 or 4? Does it switch between other characters according to the story? Either way, pretty excited for Q!
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Dynamics posted:These trailers make me wonder from whose perspective you're actually following through the game. Is it a choice of MC from 3 or 4? Does it switch between other characters according to the story? Either way, pretty excited for Q! They said before you get to pick MC3 or Yu.
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ImpAtom posted:They said before you get to pick MC3 or Yu. And apparently they are entirely different "campaigns", at least according to what they've said. I bet you'll need to beat both to see the true ending or whatever. Sex_Ferguson posted:Man, Atlus did everything they could to make you regret wanting to choose the Neutral path in SMTIV, huh? It's the best ending though! Neutral always is in SMT because they always make the moral "don't be assholes but don't become slaves"
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Jan 19, 2014 09:03
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Taking bets that P4A2 will end with the P3 and P4 crew finding out that Nyarlothotep is the one behind Erebus trying to come into contact with Nyx. Elizabeth learns how to finally destroy Erebus, thus freeing MC3 from being a statue. Then we'll have 2 people, a robot, and a Velvet Room denizen with the Wild Card power, who may become mentors or party members for P5. P5 will be about Nyarlothotep's newest attempt to gently caress with the world, and the new characters from that game will be charged with finding out what happened to Philemon and find some way to forever stop Nyarlothotep. Calling it now.
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Jan 19, 2014 10:38
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Gishin posted:Taking bets that P4A2 will end with the P3 and P4 crew finding out that Nyarlothotep is the one behind Erebus trying to come into contact with Nyx. Elizabeth learns how to finally destroy Erebus, thus freeing MC3 from being a statue. Then we'll have 2 people, a robot, and a Velvet Room denizen with the Wild Card power, who may become mentors or party members for P5. P5 will be about Nyarlothotep's newest attempt to gently caress with the world, and the new characters from that game will be charged with finding out what happened to Philemon and find some way to forever stop Nyarlothotep. P4A2's story mode is currently playable for a few of the characters, and I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find spoilers for it. I've played it as Sho and Yu and It so far has no foreshadowing for P5 unless Sho is some sort of P5 cameo crossover.
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laplace posted:P4A2's story mode is currently playable for a few of the characters, and I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find spoilers for it. I haven't played P4A2 at all and know very little about it, honestly. Sho could be in P5 though, like how Vincent first showed up in P3P. It's also likely it won't all come together until some kind of "true end" is unlocked.
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Honestly, I really hope P5 isn't tied up in some metaplot that I don't care that much about, and is just its own thing. A few hints and nods are one thing, but I don't want party members from past Persona games, any longterm appearances from the cast of P3/P4, whatever. I just want a cool JRPG that stands by itself.
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Yeah, to be honest, I hope Persona Q and Persona 4A are basically them getting all that poo poo out of their system so P5 can just be its own thing instead of Persona 4 Part 2 or whatever.
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Endorph posted:Honestly, I really hope P5 isn't tied up in some metaplot that I don't care that much about, and is just its own thing. A few hints and nods are one thing, but I don't want party members from past Persona games, any longterm appearances from the cast of P3/P4, whatever. I just want a cool JRPG that stands by itself. Yeah, agreed. I'm really quite sick of P4 and adding P3 stuff to it did not help, so I just want something new.
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We'll probably get the continuation of Philemon vs Nyarlathotep and have minor cameos of previous games like 3/4 had of the 1/2 cast. It would add more detail to the plot while keeping the writing out of old stuff.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It's the best ending though! Neutral always is in SMT because they always make the moral "don't be assholes but don't become slaves" Oh it totally is and it feels super satisfying to get to the end and just watch the dome around Tokyo crumble to the ground after all of the stuff I had to do. That and not forsaking every single person of one side and instead beating down Lucifer and Merkabah. Seeing everyone be at ease at the end and happy about being able to drink wine and stuff was great too. The ending is short, but it says enough for what it is. Quick question, does anyone know how to initiate the Isabeau manga cutscenes? I have a save before the final boss of the neutral route and don't know if I'm able to get them or not at this point. I tried to find a youtube clip of that stuff and it was not happening, I hope I don't have to replay the game to see them.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Quick question, does anyone know how to initiate the Isabeau manga cutscenes? I have a save before the final boss of the neutral route and don't know if I'm able to get them or not at this point. I tried to find a youtube clip of that stuff and it was not happening, I hope I don't have to replay the game to see them. You need to have Isabeau with you when you go to that room behind the Ginza paywall. She leaves after you beat the first boss on the Neutral route, so I'm afraid you're out of luck.
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Well poo poo looks like I'm doing another play through after I beat the DLC bosses then. With LV 99 and all of my demons though it'll be easy enough.
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Strange Quark posted:You need to have Isabeau with you when you go to that room behind the Ginza paywall. She leaves after you beat the first boss on the Neutral route, so I'm afraid you're out of luck.
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Nate RFB posted:I'm planning to go with Neutral so I'll bite; this is after locking yourself into the Neutral ending, but before fighting any bosses? Yes, Isabeau rejoins you a bit after the route lock and then only leaves after you finish the first dungeon.
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So I'm playing Innocent Sin! So far, I am completely and utterly hooked. I can't believe I'm saying this but this might be my favorite game in the entire series already. While the battles aren't as strategic as they are in 3/4 due to the lack of press turns, I still think they are amazingly awesome. The playing field, with characters that move around and attacks that are affected by range? So cool. I now know where the one cool thing in Final Fantasy 13 comes from. I actually watch the battles in this game instead of putting them on skip and setting my Vita down like I did for Persona 1. Fusion spells really introduce an awesome turn order strategy, which is welcomed. The characters are so far great, even if the voice acting is a little bit over the top (T: Look into my eyes....). Not to mention Lisa's Cantonese. The thing with this is that I actually didn't hate the characters in P1 so it's really, really awesome to see them in an actually engaging story/universe. Yukino is awesome, And seeing even side characters return makes it really clear the people writing both care about their universe and have a great sense of fun. So far I'm loving the game to death. It really, really is a shame that the Eternal punishment remake never made it to the states. I thankfully have a Japanese copy, but still. Anyway, Persona 2 actually is awesome and everyone should play it is my point.
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Gishin posted:and the new characters from that game will be charged with finding out what happened to Philemon...
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Butt Ghost posted:Not really a spoiler but isn't Philemon the save butterfly now? Yeah, he's in the original P3 intro (and I think P3P's as well) and is the save butterfly in P4.
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