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Pierson posted:Jesus I think I found where all the difficulty went, this dude was keeping all of it in his castle. The dogs are bad enough but combined with the charming succubi I've had more gameovers in this place than the rest of the game combined! Stick a charm-nullifying accessory on someone and have them use Provoke or Catch Me to draw most attacks to them. Casting Sleep on the succubi can make things a bit more manageable too. Sadly, Entice isn't a spell so Silence doesn't stop it.  Edit: this also helps with the dogs, since Bite's aggro-raising side-effect makes no difference if the target is already doing that to themselves anyway! Suaimhneas fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jan 17, 2014 |
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Yeah I finally got through it, and I guess besides the job Vampire = Blue mage niiiiiice the reward is basically (plot spoiler) telling you there is gonna be a plot-twist REAL soon. It's barely hidden either there's literally one person it could possibly be. Even accounting for Protagonist Blindness and the fact they need to stay in the dark I'm surprised not one of them commented on it.
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FrickenMoron posted:Im in chapter 8 now and all i can say is this game suffers heavily from being too long and loving repeating the same poo poo for 4 chapters! It should have ended after chapter 5 for gods sake. It stopped being fun a long while ago, thank god I've got an auto-win party though that basically wins all battles with one button press. Mostly I think Chapter 5 could have been cut, and any story content in it could have just been put into Chapter 6. I'm fine with Chapter 7 and 8 since they really switch up the optional fights and have plenty of interesting/fun dialogue. And also being able to change the encounter rate, I don't think I could have gotten through the game without it.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Alright cool. Just got to the 3rd boss and he's hitting my knights for a amazing 9 hp of damage so getting kinda concerned about Normal difficulty When I fought that boss every double damage was an instant KO.
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Jan 17, 2014 10:20
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Does anyone know if this game got a really tiny print run in Europe? Loads of places seem to be sold out of it, even online retailers. I really want to pick it up next week, but it looks like I might not be able to.
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Jan 17, 2014 10:24
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^ I don't think the Print Run will have been especially high, especially considering that late adopters can get it on the eShop. Pierson posted:Yeah I finally got through it, and I guess besides the job Vampire = Blue mage niiiiiice the reward is basically (plot spoiler) telling you there is gonna be a plot-twist REAL soon. It's barely hidden either there's literally one person it could possibly be. Even accounting for Protagonist Blindness and the fact they need to stay in the dark I'm surprised not one of them commented on it. It's worth noting that this "spoiler" is sort of out of order, you aren't meant to do this side quest in chapter 4, it's just that it's possible. By the time you are meant to do this, other people are starting to figure this out too.
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Jan 17, 2014 10:28
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Protip: when you fight Qada, don't have Damage Dispersion on any of your characters. It does not mix well with his Dark Breath. That was a painful lesson to learn. 
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Jan 17, 2014 19:58
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Fast question -- are status effects in this game as totally useless on bosses as in every other final fantasy game ever? I feel like it's been drilled into my head to never ever try to use status spells on bosses since you'll waste a turn (or three) trying to get it to land only for the boss to shake it off a turn later (Etrian Odyssey was really nice for this, actually). Poison in particular seems like something that is always the awkward middle child of not dealing enough damage to make it useful for regular encounters (doubly so when you can Brave 4 times and drop a bomb on enemies) and never actually landing on bosses. Haven't played the full game yet though -- really looking forwards to the US release!
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Jan 17, 2014 20:03
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RoboCicero posted:Fast question -- are status effects in this game as totally useless on bosses as in every other final fantasy game ever? I feel like it's been drilled into my head to never ever try to use status spells on bosses since you'll waste a turn (or three) trying to get it to land only for the boss to shake it off a turn later (Etrian Odyssey was really nice for this, actually). Most enemies have quite a bit of HP, and considering you actually have four turns at once to get them to stick, some can be worth it. Stop saved me during a few bossfights when the boss summons mooks, Poison or Sleep are THE best way to go through random encounters (unless the enemy is immune to poison, sleep, Dark elemental damage or instant death, which is fairly rare) in the mid to lategame (throughout the game, poison does 10% damage to normal enemies, 1% to bosses), and stat buffs and debuffs are awesome and you should definitely use those.
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RoboCicero posted:Fast question -- are status effects in this game as totally useless on bosses as in every other final fantasy game ever? I feel like it's been drilled into my head to never ever try to use status spells on bosses since you'll waste a turn (or three) trying to get it to land only for the boss to shake it off a turn later (Etrian Odyssey was really nice for this, actually). You should stop this because status effects are actually really powerful in most JRPGs, including Final Fantasy games.
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Jan 17, 2014 20:17
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I think status effects are less likely to stick to a boss, at 30% instead of 75%, but the message for "you missed" is different from "immune." So if you got the "miss" message, you can keep trying. I know that Silencing the Melusine in the demo makes her a complete joke.
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Jan 17, 2014 20:31
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Status effects, particularly Poison, are awesome in this game. It can be the difference between losing some bosses or breaking all of them over your knee... Unless they manage to land it on you while you wreck everything. Assuming you choose to use the job that takes advantage of it. As ImpAtom says though, status effects are very good in lots of JRPGs, it's a case by case thing.
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Absolutely, thanks for replying! I know in EO3 and EO4 they were brick poo poo wreckers that not only scaled but were also essential to late game fights but I honestly haven't played a FF game since forever so I wasn't sure what to expect.MechaCrash posted:I think status effects are less likely to stick to a boss, at 30% instead of 75%, but the message for "you missed" is different from "immune." So if you got the "miss" message, you can keep trying. I know that Silencing the Melusine in the demo makes her a complete joke. This is also good to know. I actually remember seeing "RESIST" pop up over someone when someone tried using a party-wide status spell in the demo but never connected that to the difference between immunity and the effect not landing.
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My FC is 1005-9238-5083. Just a stateside goon looking to add people when we get the full version of the game.
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Game comes out in what, 3 weeks for America? Should set up a Google doc or something for US FCs.
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Jan 18, 2014 03:50
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Apperantly the 4HoL superboss Nemeses are getting a rerun with switched around levels. Good old Beelzebub and Asmodeus are getting bumped to 99, whereas Belphegor (who I never beat, loving elemental weaknesses) is getting reduced to 20.
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Terper posted:Apperantly the 4HoL superboss Nemeses are getting a rerun with switched around levels. Good old Beelzebub and Asmodeus are getting bumped to 99, whereas Belphegor (who I never beat, loving elemental weaknesses) is getting reduced to 20. Probably also so that you can learn the -ja Genomes if you missed out the first time.
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Folt The Bolt posted:Probably also so that you can learn the -ja Genomes if you missed out the first time. How many are there? I have four...
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IntelligibleChoir posted:How many are there? I have four... That's as many as I know about, though I wouldn't put it past Square Enix to have one of the revamped Nemesis battles feature Quaja/Quakja/whatever just so we can have -ja genomes of every element except the two "rare" ones.
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I have added everyone up to and including page 9 my FC is 3840-5986-7821 please add me back just started playing yesterday I want more workers for my village
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Jan 19, 2014 00:34
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Jesus Christ, I've been playing the game on hard and now, in chapter 4, the game is getting really hard. Enemies do a poo poo ton of damage and equiping the newest gear and the best shields don't take the edge of it. I'm lv 60, and it's time to grind again. Sheesh.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:04
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Is the full game as reliant on rebuilding the town as the demo is? The difference between store gear and town gear makes quite a difference.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:51
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Would people recommend playing through the game on hard first time? I'm likely to grind a bit too much anyway, so making the game justify my time spent somewhat would be nice.
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Jan 19, 2014 06:43
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Eponymous posted:Would people recommend playing through the game on hard first time? I'm likely to grind a bit too much anyway, so making the game justify my time spent somewhat would be nice. In my opinion, no. The latter chapters get grindy enough as it is and the game does cap out pretty quickly at Level 99. Giving the enemys double the HP and the bosses like triple or quadruple the amounts seems like a bad idea.
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Jan 19, 2014 08:06
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Bruceski posted:Is the full game as reliant on rebuilding the town as the demo is? The difference between store gear and town gear makes quite a difference. In the full game you get 3-5 free villagers per day ignoring streetpass. You'll have the village completed within a week if you check it regularly.
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Eponymous posted:Would people recommend playing through the game on hard first time? I'm likely to grind a bit too much anyway, so making the game justify my time spent somewhat would be nice. Only if you like hard games. Hard is genuinely hard. If you just think you're going to grind, just play normal.
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Eponymous posted:Would people recommend playing through the game on hard first time? I'm likely to grind a bit too much anyway, so making the game justify my time spent somewhat would be nice. I thought I was overleveled for the true final bosses, so I switched to Hard. I wasn't overleveled.  Hard is actually hard, and unless you're sure you know what you're doing, you're gonna have a tough time. That doesn't mean it's not fair, though. The game stays challenging but fair throughout. If you want a challenge, then sure, but Normal is perfectly fine.
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Terper posted:I thought I was overleveled for the true final bosses, so I switched to Hard. No poo poo. Difficulty level for this game is actually rather fair, and even if you level all the way up to 99, there's bosses that are balanced just for that. In other news, it appears that unranked armor like robes and hats are actually treated as having an A-Rank (1.8 P.Def increase) for all classes for the purpose of increasing P.Def. So if you wonder why low rank armor seem to give less than what a robe with lesser defense does, this is the answer to that question.
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I'm in the process of going through the whole thread and friendcoding everyone- anyone who's posted theirs so far, mine is 2466-2747-3663.
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I really got sick of the game in the end. If you're like me and get bored with it just make everyone a ninja, give them valkyrie skills and make sure you have hasten world from the time mage on one of your characters. High jump with everyone, press auto battle and you win the game.
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Added everyone on this page, almost have every job at 14 on every character because I'm a tedious person. 5386-7996-9402 Btw adding friends doesn't get you more villagers, only net friend invites (each day) and unique streetpasses do. ^^^^ Also FrickenMoron is the current record holder for largest Summon damage - 285,374. I could only make it up to 257,661 but I can see how one would go bigger. IntelligibleChoir fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 08:52
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999999 here. 0619-3879-2558
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Is there anything worth stealing in the final final final chapter of the game? I just: kicked the arse of the group of four in the Time Mage town and forgot to thoroughly steal everything
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Jan 20, 2014 13:29
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No, all you can get out of the team battles in the final chapter are Elixirs and Turbo Ethers, all the rare equipment you might want some extra copies of are stolen from the chapter 7 fights.
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AnotherGamer posted:No, all you can get out of the team battles in the final chapter are Elixirs and Turbo Ethers, all the rare equipment you might want some extra copies of are stolen from the chapter 7 fights. Ah, that's good, I can finally switch out my thief robot.
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irlZaphod posted:Does anyone know if this game got a really tiny print run in Europe? Loads of places seem to be sold out of it, even online retailers. I really want to pick it up next week, but it looks like I might not be able to.
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Foxhound posted:My usual store didn't have any copies left. Some stores still list it as being in stock, but I doubt the original print was very large.
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Amazon just emailed me saying my standard copy and limited edition of Bravely Default won't be shipped on Feburary 7th and would email me when they get in more. Gamestop won't let me pre-order the limited edition. Are other retail stores going to stock this game? I would rather not buy a regular copy from Gamestop if possible. US version here.
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Jan 20, 2014 15:18
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If you just want the game buy it digitally. Other than that, good luck.
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Lord Ephraim posted:Amazon just emailed me saying my standard copy and limited edition of Bravely Default won't be shipped on Feburary 7th and would email me when they get in more. Gamestop won't let me pre-order the limited edition. Are other retail stores going to stock this game? I would rather not buy a regular copy from Gamestop if possible. US version here. If it's anything like the PAL release, the Limited Edition's probably gone now. Amazon might manage to get them back in-stock though, so don't cancel that or anything.
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