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ProperGanderPusher posted:Bonus points if they point out racism was coined by Trotsky and that you're a filthy commie for using the word in the first place. I actually really like the Trotsky bullshit because it lets me know that the person that I'm talking to gets all of their information from crazy, far-right websites.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I actually really like the Trotsky bullshit because it lets me know that the person that I'm talking to gets all of their information from crazy, far-right websites. That and you can mock them as being a useful idiot for crypto-Stalinists by being yet another in a long line of dupes set up to trash Trotsky without comprehending why.
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I know that a lot of people feel that progressive social policies for minorities (and women) "remove the individual's agency." Affirmative action or quotas or providing birth control or providing abortions is the "nanny state" treating minorities and women like less than human. Like improving inner city schools, so that they have, you know, teachers, is going to get in the way of little Intergenerational Poverty Johnny or Jane bootstrapping their way to success. In the Feminism thread, we were just discussing the Very Wrong View that we live in a truly meritorious society. I mean, people really believe that. Obviously for a lot of actors, white males ones, maintaining this view is very important
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What is super extra weird with the whole liberals being the real racists is they'll use some recently enacted policy and show how it affected this one minority badly. But then the conservative rear end in a top hat also seems to weirdly imply the government system works, but not as well as it should. They realize the job market sucks, most government programs get taken away once someone finds a job, or too many benefits are lost, and the job offers less than the benefits, so they end up quitting the job to go back onto the government system. But of course there are no hints at a real solution, just that, see, liberal program keeps minorities in poverty due to this unfortunate, but real, incredibly small sample size of affected people, therefore, libtards racist.
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HipGnosis posted:I know that a lot of people feel that progressive social policies for minorities (and women) "remove the individual's agency." Affirmative action or quotas or providing birth control or providing abortions is the "nanny state" treating minorities and women like less than human. Like improving inner city schools, so that they have, you know, teachers, is going to get in the way of little Intergenerational Poverty Johnny or Jane bootstrapping their way to success. I have this sneaking suspicion that all of this bullshit stems from some Protestant thinker misattributing the "teach a man to fish quote" to Jesus and running with it until it's mutated into some maddening just world fallacy. I guess my response to "removing the persons agency" is what inherent power personal agency provides that supersedes the limitations of someone's ability to live out of constant fear. Perhaps that fear in itself is supposed to be a motivating factor rather than a paralyzing one. None of these premises hold up under the lightest scrutiny so the only reasonable answer at this point is to attribute it to god and then fart all the way to the bank.
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FarRight.txt http://whitegenocideproject.com/beefcakes-bootcamp-episode-3-we-have-the-moral-highground/ http://whitegenocideproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/0003-WE-Have-the-Moral-Highground.mp3 
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Race Realists posted:FarRight.txt I'd give a year of my life to have never seen this. 
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Listen to it. Listen to it now. He really thinks he's on to something the apartheid never happened to these "WHITE GENOCIDE GON GO EXTINCT YALL  " types
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I feel like I'm on a watchlist now for going on a site unironically supporting genocide while accusing or their enemies of wanting to do the same.
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Sephyr posted:I'd give a year of my life to have never seen this. Hrm... I know my company doesn't watch what I click on, but geez do I not want those URLs being associated with my name.
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Pixelboy posted:Hrm... I know my company doesn't watch what I click on, but geez do I not want those URLs being associated with my name. Yeah, this is pretty awful - I really don't feel comfortable having this on my monitor. Can it be spoiled and marked NSFW or something?
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Interesting take considering the age of his audience but alright http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/another-helpful-lesson-glenn-beck-there-no-retirement-community-animal-world
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Interesting take considering the age of his audience but alright I don't know what he's talking about. My Dad told me our dog went to retire at our uncle's farm....... 
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Race Realists posted:FarRight.txt As someone who thinks most conservatives are incredibly lovely people, this really seems too extreme to pin on any political affiliation. Even racist conservatives generally aren't this racist. I mean I guess this is like the right equivalent of anarchists planning the destruction of all government. It's just mentally ill people who have unfortunately been able to congregate and reinforce each other through the internet.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Interesting take considering the age of his audience but alright Beck's really changed his appearance, hasn't he? Almost didn't recognize him. I'm hoping this clip lacked context that would allow it to appear less crazy than it seems, but if Beck really has a problem with "man's law" then what's with his fetish for the US Constitution? Hopefully one day he gives into Satan's voice he hears in the morning telling him stop with his career. Rip Testes fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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He looks like Wolf Blitzer.
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Rip Testes posted:if Beck really has a problem "man's law" then what's with his fetish for the US Constitution? The official position of the LDS Church (of which Glenn Beck is a member) is that the Founding Fathers were doing the Lord's work when they wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Church President Wilson Woodruff claimed in an 1877 letter that the spirits of the signers of the Declaration of Independence (and fifty other "eminent men") appeared to him and asked to be baptized by proxy in return for their service to the nation. 
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Figures. I should have guessed as much.
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If Illuminati deists could traverse the astral plane to demand admission to the Mormon church, couldn't they have just asked Joseph Smith?
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Race Realists posted:The moral high ground belongs to the White-and-normals who are fighting White Genocide! Nope, no racism here. 
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My favorite part of Martin Luther King Jr Day. Listening to the Republicans trying to claim him as one of theirs.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Interesting take considering the age of his audience but alright I guess by this logic we shouldn't be wearing clothes because those aren't in the animal world either.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:As someone who thinks most conservatives are incredibly lovely people, this really seems too extreme to pin on any political affiliation. Even racist conservatives generally aren't this racist. I mean I guess this is like the right equivalent of anarchists planning the destruction of all government. It's just mentally ill people who have unfortunately been able to congregate and reinforce each other through the internet. but don't you see its YOU who's mentally ill for supporting white genocide (which could totally mean anything cuz the UN said so)  forced integration = white people magically disappearing quote:John Randolph May 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm Yes, you loving tard.
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BJA posted:My favorite part of Martin Luther King Jr Day. Listening to the Republicans trying to claim him as one of theirs. You can concern troll and point out that he was somewhat sympathetic to communists, especially Cuba and North Vietnam. Alternatively you can point out that beloved conservative icon Jesse Helms ran a filibuster to prevent MLK Day from becoming a holiday under Reagan.
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Mental illness is a serious issue in America. I feel slightly bad for the white genocide guy.icantfindaname posted:You can concern troll and point out that he was somewhat sympathetic to communists, especially Cuba and North Vietnam. Alternatively you can point out that beloved conservative icon Jesse Helms ran a filibuster to prevent MLK Day from becoming a holiday under Reagan. I don't think most conservatives give a flying gently caress about MLK anyways. There's a reason Jesse Helms is a conservative hero.
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BJA posted:My favorite part of Martin Luther King Jr Day. Listening to the Republicans trying to claim him as one of theirs. After decades of decrying him as a commie pinko serial adulterer and plagiarist. 
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comes along bort posted:After decades of decrying him as a commie pinko serial adulterer and plagiarist. Not just any serial adulterer either, a gay serial adulterer.
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icantfindaname posted:Not just any serial adulterer either, a gay serial adulterer. But enough about Obama...
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Since it's Martin Luther King Jr. day, I'd like to bring up an individual whose existence is a complete demolishment of the modern right wing talking point that the civil rights struggle isn't related to the gay rights struggle: Or that Dr. Martin Lutehr King Jr. would have been against gay people or something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin quote:Bayard Rustin (/ˈbaɪərd/; March 17, 1912 – August 24, 1987) was an American leader in social movements for civil rights, socialism, pacifism and non-violence, and gay rights. He was born and raised in Pennsylvania where his family was involved in civil rights work. In 1936, he moved to Harlem, New York City and earned a living as a nightclub and stage singer, and continued activism for civil rights. He was a mentor to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and even continued to mentor him and was a key organizer throughout the entire movement after a shithead democrat threatened to blackmail MLKJR with the false allegation that Bayard and MLKJR were gay lovers. Towards the end of his life in the 80s, Bayard turned his attention towards civil rights for gays. Here's a rather incredible quote by him: Because Bayard Rustin is (and always has been openly) gay however, he's been very readily swept under the carpet from the history books - in spite of being the pivotal important figure he really is. Part of this is because of a strain homophobia in the African American community, but also because of larger problems with homophobia in America. To the still-backwards thinking of the post civil rights era, the narrative of MLKJR didn't sound as good if you associated it with a gay man. These days attitudes have changed though, so hopefully Rustin's shameful dismissal by educators and historians will be exposed and demolished as the man will finally get the due credit he deserves.. If you want to hear a really good overview of just how important he was, check out this NPR broadcast - though it only scratches the surface of how fundamentally important he is and the sheer scope of things he's done: http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/08/15/212338844/bayard-rustin-the-man-who-organized-the-march-on-washington  This is a must-listen-to-program. Seriously. It's mind-blowing.
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Rip Testes posted:Beck's really changed his appearance, hasn't he? Almost didn't recognize him. I'm hoping this clip lacked context that would allow it to appear less crazy than it seems, but if Beck really has a problem with "man's law" then what's with his fetish for the US Constitution? People like Beck are against "man's law" but all for "God's law," which of course means their own interpretation of the Bible. As was said, he also believes that the Constitution is God's law because it was divinely inspired. Of course, they also believe that "freedom" is God's law but what this boils down to is "what I believe is right because God. What you believe is wrong because God." There's no logic or reason behind it nor is there concern for consequences. It's also wrapped up in some real Just World bullshit. He figures that since he was a raging alcoholic, got better, and is now successful that means that people that aren't as successful as he is just don't want it bad enough. It's typical right wing bullshit, really. "I am a defender of freedom" basically means "gently caress you, got mine."
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Darkman Fanpage posted:I guess by this logic we shouldn't be wearing clothes because those aren't in the animal world either. In the animal world there is no such thing as 'private property'  .
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Combining the US constitution with Christianity is a perfect example of the kind of syncretism that Eco warns us about in ur-Fascism.
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icantfindaname posted:You can concern troll and point out that he was somewhat sympathetic to communists, especially Cuba and North Vietnam. Alternatively you can point out that beloved conservative icon Jesse Helms ran a filibuster to prevent MLK Day from becoming a holiday under Reagan. He was bipartisan so I think it's silly for either the Democrats or Republicans to try to claim him, especially considering that if any minority with any influence started demanding these things today he would be shot, too, and both parties would gladly bury him.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:As someone who thinks most conservatives are incredibly lovely people, this really seems too extreme to pin on any political affiliation. Even racist conservatives generally aren't this racist. I mean I guess this is like the right equivalent of anarchists planning the destruction of all government. It's just mentally ill people who have unfortunately been able to congregate and reinforce each other through the internet. The Greatest Generation's dying so the fascists are no longer hiding. Especially the Silent Generation fascists. They've been waiting for so long, and they want to make up for past failures.
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Stop making the mistake that it's old people. You have no idea how many "Ex-liberals" under 60 I've come across online
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Yeah. The young republicans are really the most dangerous because at least half of them believe FDR's and LBJ's terms "set us up for fiscal catastrophe" rather than a more accurate "saved American capitalism" and they cannot comprehend life without public and familial safety nets. It's loving spooky to talk to GOP true believers younger than yourself. Not saying they're the bulk of the party. Just that it's not safe to assume that problem will fix itself.
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sweart gliwere posted:Not saying they're the bulk of the party. Just that it's not safe to assume that problem will fix itself. The hippie-hating* in the late 70s and early 80s that set the stage for Reagan's takeover certainly proved that. Having another selfish 'boomer'-type generation would be a nightmare I doubt this country would endure a second time. *The only good part of which was that it turns out the hippies were of course right all along anyway. 
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Race Realists posted:You have no idea how many "Ex-liberals" under 60 I've come across online It seems to me that the only way you could ever be ex-liberal is either that you weren't actually one and were just espousing beliefs to piss of your conservative parents or get laid, or you become financially successful and decide that you now care more about your tax rate than you care about other human beings. I had some pretty conservative beliefs when I was a teenager because I was an idiot and I thought that my white middle class experience was basically THE American experience and anyone who didn't have the same opportunities as me just didn't care. Fortunately I grew up and got exposed to other cultures and people with totally different experiences growing up than I had and I realized I was colossal dipshit. Unfortunately there are plenty of people, including grown rear end adults in their 50s and 60s, who never bother to look past what they already thought they knew in their childhood.
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