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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Specialised parts have always been my main complaint about specialised sets. Aside from the figurines themselves, that set actually looks pretty decent for a block set. Given that those windows (and, I assume, the door) are the same design as the ones I had 20 years ago, this looks pretty decent for a starter block set.
Also, there's a cat included in the set. Your argument is invalid.

That sausage on a plate is going to get lost the first time anyone plays with the set though.

Edit: Sure, it could be less "this is for girls" and you can argue about the specific colour arrangement of the blocks till you're blue in the face (whether or not the roofing tiles should've been red, for instance), but it's still a pretty solid set overall. (and yes, I built houses. As well as space ships and whatnot)

I used to get mad at the Pirate and Knight sets especially for their specialised parts. But again, years ago.

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jan 21, 2014

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chocolatekake
Jul 31, 2013

Cake? Chocolate.
Like Veloxyll said, it looks like a pretty decent block set. And whether or not it's separated into a "girls line" it's at least a quality toy, unlike most of these games we've been shown so far. Not to say that it should be separated into its own line. But the problem isn't necessarily solved by just making gender-neutral Legos only, regardless of the loss of female consumers they might get. Because at that point you are ignoring the fact that girls might like pink things or that boys might like ninja things or the other way around. They should still make all varying kinds of Legos, but the advertising and packaging shouldn't try make it exclusive to one sex or the other.

Off topic Lego talk: I loved building stuff from my imagination when I was young, but when I got my first build set, my creativity went more to playing with what I built rather than thinking of cool stuff to build. I still built cool stuff, it just wasn't my design. I still had tons of fun following the directions step-by-step and looking for the piece that was next. Maybe I'm weird like that.

Clochette
Aug 12, 2013

There was a LEGO Friends computer game. The girls were in a band and you got to compose music. It was cool as hell.

Also, I feel obligated to mention the ultimate girl games: Miss Bimbo and its superior French predecessor, Ma Bimbo. They're a lot more tongue-in-cheek than the other girl games, but still pretty shameless.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Clochette posted:

Also, I feel obligated to mention the ultimate girl games: Miss Bimbo and its superior French predecessor, Ma Bimbo. They're a lot more tongue-in-cheek than the other girl games, but still pretty shameless.

Please tell me that name is because of some sort of tie-in bread company sponsorship. :stare:

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
I have no idea how you managed to resist printing pirate dog.

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf
Okay I know this is getting off topic, but my inner child is curious now, are there like, some sort of generic plastic building blocks out there that are like the Legos from the old days were you could just build whatever, or are the sets just what we're going to be stuck with forever now?

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Zoe posted:

Okay I know this is getting off topic, but my inner child is curious now, are there like, some sort of generic plastic building blocks out there that are like the Legos from the old days were you could just build whatever, or are the sets just what we're going to be stuck with forever now?

Lego still sells bulk blocks for that.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=lego+bricks

you were warned
Jul 12, 2006

(the S is for skeleton)
This thread is amazing, in both good and bad ways. I wish the horrors were more surprising :sigh: but this is a great look at them.

I grew up with three older sisters and a mom who all played video games, to varying degrees. I learned to read with King's Quest games, and we played a shitload of NES and SNES everything. It never even occurred to me that video games would be "for boys." By the time "for girls" games became common on consoles and the internet, I was way older than the target demographic. I generally looked on anything girly with disdain anyway. I did play Neopets for a while (when I was like 14, ha), but that was more "cute animals" than "omg animalz for gurlz!" poo poo like the so-called games here makes me confused and mad.

Panzer Skank posted:

This blows my mind. Not only does this game have not completely awful writing, I'm allowed to hit on the girls??? I didn't play far enough to the point where I unlocked "dating", but this game definitely has dating. Can I be in a gay relationship?? I think I actually can.

Okay, this made me curious. Since I have too much time on my hands and I missed playing the "tap, wait, tap, wait" IAP-generators (I used to play Trade Nations and Zombie Farm, because gently caress me), so I had a look.

I had to do some quests along the way. Some of them had amusing dialogue.


Finally, I was able to build the little thing where couples stand to have a date, because that's totally how dating works, right?

The moment of truth...


Yesss! Lezzin' out~~~



gently caress yesssss

This game would be better as a grow-your-own-college thing than high school, and it doesn't have anything to do with education in either case, but it earns my seal of approval anyway.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Zoe posted:

And Legos back then were just soo much better in general, I don't understand these tiny little boxes where you just build one specific thing.

You build that thing and it's awesome. And then you get a few of them, plus some generic stuff, and you build your own things with them as well. And after a while, with all the pieces mixed up, you try to build the original things from memory. And then you compare what you got with the picture and realise that you've either improved it already, or you made it slightly different and the picture gives you an idea for improving it.

Yeah, if you just had one of those little kits it would be pretty limited, but the whole point of LEGO is to get a whole bunch of stuff and combine it.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Zoe posted:

Okay I know this is getting off topic, but my inner child is curious now, are there like, some sort of generic plastic building blocks out there that are like the Legos from the old days were you could just build whatever, or are the sets just what we're going to be stuck with forever now?
They don't saw your hands off if you use the blocks included in the set to make something besides what they intended you to make, you realize.

My nephew has a couple of Star Wars Lego kits and he made a giant mecha out of the eighteen million tie fighters he had.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
On the topic of Legos and gender bias stuff, I usually play with my nephew and his toys when I am visitng my sister because otherwise it sort of erupts into chaos and I kinda prefer it to be quiet (three kids and two boys tend to get noisy as hell if they play against each other), but whenever I use his mini-figs, I usually gently caress with his mindset a bit by taking the "girl heads" and putting them on the "male bodies" which causes him great confusion and he screams at me that it isn't how it is supposed to go.

His worldview being very stuck, I try to challenge him on it, but being 6-7 years old, he just spews very male oriented worldviews like they were nobodies busniess. And it's not as if his parents were reinforcing that attitude, they are both very open minded people (the youngest boy likes all things pink and purple and will frequently steal his sister's stuff to play with it) at least the oldest just thinks that is "how he is". I am kinda stuck with assuming it is a thing indoctrinated from kindergarden or something.

Dire Chinchilla
Mar 27, 2013

Clochette posted:

There was a LEGO Friends computer game. The girls were in a band and you got to compose music. It was cool as hell.
I had that game too! It was really fun when I was a little girl.

quote:

Also, I feel obligated to mention the ultimate girl games: Miss Bimbo and its superior French predecessor, Ma Bimbo. They're a lot more tongue-in-cheek than the other girl games, but still pretty shameless.

Worth mentioning that at one point the admin of Miss Bimbo went batshit crazy, pretended to be several different people, gave the avatars pubic hair, had a huge meltdown when he yelled at the players for not spending money on the game and sent weird mass messages, sometimes from random people's accounts.
I'm surprised to see that the site is still up. Hopefully no kids are there anymore...

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Zoe posted:

Okay I know this is getting off topic, but my inner child is curious now, are there like, some sort of generic plastic building blocks out there that are like the Legos from the old days were you could just build whatever, or are the sets just what we're going to be stuck with forever now?

Like I said in my little rant about them, you can usually find small tubs of generic pieces at your local toy department, like maybe 75-150 piece buckets. They're actually cheaper than all those licensed kits too. But they're probably even more gender biased, with blue or pink buckets, with the girl ones having pink bricks and flowers and junk.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

As much as Lego is about

It's always had a good deal of options for girls. Aside from the minifigs, I'm okay with the Friends line, hell the house itself is mostly a tasteful beige with some white highlights. That's a good thing, it's more variety in a line of toys aimed at providing exactly that. Hell, you could probably make a pretty rad spaceship with those if you tried.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

The slanted roof pieces are GREAT for making spaceships. That set only has a handful of specialist parts though, so you can just build whatever.

(also, the old buckets I remember had suggestions for what you can build on them)

MadScientistWorking
Jun 23, 2010

"I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."

Zoe posted:

It really is, only it looks like it's aimed more at parents or grandparents than the kids themselves. Which I guess makes sense, kids don't have bank accounts.

And Legos back then were just soo much better in general, I don't understand these tiny little boxes where you just build one specific thing. I wish I'd hung on to that huge plastic tub I used to have... :(

e: Also agreed that sometimes it's nice to just be a girl who likes girly things and there's nothing wrong with that...girly stuff doesn't have to always be inferior or bad (see that one cartoon we're not supposed to talk about which I watch with my nieces every weekend, and then we bake cookies) and kids shouldn't have one 'correct' way of having fun shoved down their throat from either side of the issue.
That is just the stereotypical old person in you breaching out. Legos are undeniably much more interesting and more entertaining than you could ever get back in the 1980s. It gets kind of weird because I can't even tell if some of the Lego lines are aimed at kids or adults.

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy

MadScientistWorking posted:

That is just the stereotypical old person in you breaching out. Legos are undeniably much more interesting and more entertaining than you could ever get back in the 1980s. It gets kind of weird because I can't even tell if some of the Lego lines are aimed at kids or adults.

The Lego Architecture series is undeniably marketed towards adults.

I already own three. :v:

Also re: Lego sets; I was thumbing through a Lego catalogue and they were selling some kind of set for building a cargo ship and the description emphasized that the set contained "uncommon turquoise bricks!" So even though, yes, more Legos are being sold as "sets" there is still that encouragement towards taking bricks from that set to use in your own projects.

Devious Vacuum
Oct 24, 2009

Girl Games!

:siren: UPDATE TIME :siren:

with Oatmeal Raisin

Oats and I play some very romantic games about kissing. I built one of those LEGO architecture series for adults and it was super boring. I'd much rather build some kind of intergalactic battleship. Oh, and Oatmeal is totally gonna post a video about GTA V when he gets done being in California later this week.

Devious Vacuum fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jan 21, 2014

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Devious Vacuum posted:

:siren: UPDATE TIME :siren:

with Oatmeal Raisin

Oats and I play some very romantic games about kissing.

I'd like to point out how there's no kissing until near six minutes in. That's fine for girls, right?

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky
You must kiss. You absolutely must kiss. Don't you dare let anyone see you kiss.

Geop
Oct 26, 2007

I like to imagine that this makeup is being applied using a make-up-related brush, but it's taped to the end of a long broomstick.

"Eyeshadow--UH WELL I GUESS YOUR FOREHEAD IS THAT COLOR NOW"

Also, in the make-out sneaking game, the dude popping up in the foreground reminded me of something.

DialTheDude
Jan 12, 2014

PORK RICE BOWLS

Lipstick Apathy

Up to this point most of the girl games we've seen were character customization or puzzle games of some sort. And now we've seen two games involving stealth. Perhaps if we dig deep enough, we can find a game that borrows from real-time strategy or survival horror.

grancheater
May 1, 2013

Wine'em, dine'em, 69'em
Confirmed: Love can bloom, even on the camp's fields.

chocolatekake
Jul 31, 2013

Cake? Chocolate.
On the list of game categories on the left there was "Award Games". At first I thought it said awkward games, which would be most of them, but now I'm wondering are these award-winning games or just games that involve awards? Like a dress-up game for the Oscar statue.

DialTheDude posted:

Up to this point most of the girl games we've seen were character customization or puzzle games of some sort. And now we've seen two games involving stealth. Perhaps if we dig deep enough, we can find a game that borrows from real-time strategy or survival horror.

Every game is survival horror. If you fail you have to suffer the horror of being ugly.

Miijhal
Jul 10, 2011

I am so tired... I am so tired all the time...
So according to Office Lady Makeover, getting a facial peels your lips off.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Now I'm imagining an Assassins Creed sequel with GIRL GAMES mechanics, except no one tells the usual gamer crowd until they find out ingame that it's no longer about killing things :allears:

e: Haha oh wow, that Viking music, I must have it!

Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 21, 2014

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
I think the girl with one arm lost her arm in a tragic kissing accident. She's trying to warn people about you because she wants to save you!

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


You should have definitely tried Diabetus and Slowbeef. I'm sure they would have scored 100%. <3

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Ramos posted:

You should have definitely tried Diabetus and Slowbeef. I'm sure they would have scored 100%. <3

ChipCheezum and General Ironicus, too. It's thread appropriate, too, because IIRC Chip invented the phrase Let's Playdies.

Thanks Internet
May 27, 2012

This poster just flew all the way from Caketown just to make this post!

Now THAT'S desperate!
So I'm pretty sure that ALL the girls in that kissing game have only one arm.

Six Of Spades
Oct 24, 2010

"...That too is according to my calculations."

Tiggum posted:

You would think that pretty much everyone is going to play with customisation options in any game that has them, but the Saints Row developers said when they were making Saints Row IV that they'd looked into the stats on what people spent most time on in Saints Row the Third, what features were used, what activities people liked etc. so they could cut stuff that no one was using and focus on the stuff people actually want in the game, and it turned out that the vast majority of players just use the default male character with the default clothes and voice (but they still included character customisation because they consider it a core feature).

Oh for real? Do you have a link to the article or whatever, I'd love to read it in full.

I'm super happy this thread exists. I've played one or two GIRL GAMES in my time - during the DS' lifespan, Ubisoft published all these 'Imagine' games, where you took on a job that was stereotypically female, babysitter, chef, vet, etc. They were so popular they made an absolute fuckton of them, and there were even copycat series.

However, that doesn't mean the games were good. They weren't hilariously bad or anything; just... obviously made with no budget. I got a kick out of Imagine: Journalist, though (as in, I actually threw £6 down on that motherfucker). While that's actually a really cool profession to encourage girls to join, and having a game about journalism would be super interesting, it didn't do a very good job of showing what the career is like. There's no shorthand minigame, at least.

Xenia
Apr 5, 2004

I'm a vegetable. Honk!

Devious Vacuum posted:

:siren: UPDATE TIME :siren:

with Oatmeal Raisin

Oats and I play some very romantic games about kissing. I built one of those LEGO architecture series for adults and it was super boring. I'd much rather build some kind of intergalactic battleship. Oh, and Oatmeal is totally gonna post a video about GTA V when he gets done being in California later this week.

I paused the video after hearing there was no butterfly wings. That is a crime against humanity.

Prenton
Feb 17, 2011

Ner nerr-nerrr ner
Wait, is cucumber-slices-in-the-eyes is actually a thing? I thought it was a silly sitcom joke.

gegi
Aug 3, 2004
Butterfly Girl

Six Of Spades posted:

I'm super happy this thread exists. I've played one or two GIRL GAMES in my time - during the DS' lifespan, Ubisoft published all these 'Imagine' games, where you took on a job that was stereotypically female, babysitter, chef, vet, etc. They were so popular they made an absolute fuckton of them, and there were even copycat series.

However, that doesn't mean the games were good. They weren't hilariously bad or anything; just... obviously made with no budget. I got a kick out of Imagine: Journalist, though (as in, I actually threw £6 down on that motherfucker). While that's actually a really cool profession to encourage girls to join, and having a game about journalism would be super interesting, it didn't do a very good job of showing what the career is like. There's no shorthand minigame, at least.

The Imagine series is an interesting case because strictly speaking they aren't a series at all - at least, some of them aren't. Several of those games are pre-existing foreign-language games that were licensed and rebranded, their origins disguised. Others were made in-house by one of the Ubisoft studios. As I understand it, some of them are okay games and some really are hilariously bad, but it's hard to get a decent rundown of what's what - who made which game, which games are worth playing for a laugh and which should be avoided entirely, etc.

The only one I own is the first Imagine Ice Skating game, which I had to give up on because of the terrible voice acting. I don't know if it was that bad in the original Japanese, but in the English version, the skating sections were ruined by a high-pitched voice going 'WHEE! WHEE! YIPPEE! YAY! WOOHOO!' practically without pause for breath. and it's kind of rhythm-based gameplay so if you turn off the sound you're missing the point. At least, that's how I remember it. It was a while ago. I know for certain that one was originally Japanese but about Journalist I have no idea.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Xenia posted:

I paused the video after hearing there was no butterfly wings. That is a crime against humanity.



Truly now her makeover is complete.

Edit: The Viking Dressup game is sort of amazing. Though maybe because I'm used to Escher girl armour.

Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Jan 22, 2014

Gensuki
Sep 2, 2011
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Gensuki fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Feb 23, 2014

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy
Some more of my adventures in games for gurlzz. This is becoming an obsession.

First off is "Roman Lady Dress up", notable for letting you wear ALL THE CLOTHES. Whoever made it didn't bother to program checks to remove appropriate pieces of clothing when you put on other clothing. You can't tell in the below photo but I am wearing every single one of those tops. Simultaneously

"Help! There's been an explosion at the Jo-Ann Fabrics!"

"Students' Water-Balloon Fight Makeover" wins the award for Single Worst Concept For a Makeover Game I've Ever Seen. Nothing goes better with large amounts of water than expensive dresses and makeup.


Then there's "Man Dress Up" which requires no more introduction or explanation than that.

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

I like how there are bras in that ensemble, despite bras being a modern (early 20th century) invention.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Aerdan posted:

I like how there are bras in that ensemble, despite bras being a modern (early 20th century) invention.
Yes, that is definitely the only historical inaccuracy on display here.

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gegi
Aug 3, 2004
Butterfly Girl

dijon du jour posted:


"Students' Water-Balloon Fight Makeover" wins the award for Single Worst Concept For a Makeover Game I've Ever Seen. Nothing goes better with large amounts of water than expensive dresses and makeup.


Clearly that ought to be a game where you throw water balloons full of makeup on moving targets, changing their appearance if you hit.

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