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Just a word of warning, a Deva+Devabot combo is another obvious LT in vanilla Aleph. Still, they're cheaper and the Devabots give them another option.
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So now that I've picked up a bit of terrain, I was playing around with some board setups. I know the basic kinda rules, like no long fire lanes and shouldn't be any tall terrain to stand on in any of the deployment zones, but one thing that I can't quite get a handle on is how much terrain should be in the deployment areas. I feel like there should be more clutter there, but at the same time want to avoid having too many building to start on. At the moment I'm just playing on a dining table, and its longer that it is wide, making the field a bit narrow. Trying to remedy that by getting a wooden board set up at some point though.  The marker and tape measure are marking out the deployment areas. The right side probably has a better set up than the sparse scatter I have on the other end. I feel like I need some chunkier scatter, and maybe some bridges but other than that, does it look like I should have enough to play on here?
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Jan 18, 2014 13:30
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Should be enough, as long as you count the holes in the billboards as filled.
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Would I be lying if I described this game as MOBA-esque to my LoL-loving friends? Infinity seems to have a lower entry cost than Hordes, so it'd probably be more likely that I could convince them to give this a shot.
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ijyt posted:Would I be lying if I described this game as MOBA-esque to my LoL-loving friends? Infinity seems to have a lower entry cost than Hordes, so it'd probably be more likely that I could convince them to give this a shot. Well, the game IS all about firing lanes. 
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Jan 21, 2014 01:58
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bhsman posted:Well, the game IS all about firing lanes. Haha, ok not the lane aspect or towers and poo poo, but in terms of a large "champion" pool, with varying abilities and focus on synergy?
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Jan 21, 2014 02:02
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Something like MERCs is closer to LoL with the Champion aspect, as they're all individual characters, whereas most things in Infinity are just flat profiles, solders of X regiment or Y squadron for example. From a gameplay perspective I can sort of see what you mean though. It's a group vs group fight relying on the abilities/skills of individuals to beat the opponent. It's really hard to compare a wargame to a MOBA though I think.
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Fair enough. It's just getting a tad tiring with my group where, while we're all heavily invested in 40k (and to an extent, Fantasy), most of us can't ever seem to synchronise our free time to play those long-rear end games.
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Jan 21, 2014 02:05
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ijyt posted:Haha, ok not the lane aspect or towers and poo poo, but in terms of a large "champion" pool, with varying abilities and focus on synergy?
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Jan 21, 2014 07:53
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Why is choosing a skirmish game so hard. 
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Jan 21, 2014 10:37
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ijyt posted:Why is choosing a skirmish game so hard. Because there are so many, so, so many of them, and you kinda tie your hands a lot when you compare them to a video game. Also, no matter what ground you land on it's basically a hundred bucks to get going.
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Jan 21, 2014 10:51
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Besides, Infinity is Valkyria Chronicles 
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Jan 21, 2014 15:00
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Infinity is more like XCOM.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Besides, Infinity is Valkyria Chronicles Dr. Clockwork posted:Infinity is more like XCOM. Yes, yes those will do nicely. It might be worth my time just buying up some models so they can see the quality of 'em, while proxying the rest so we can experience the rules. Worst comes to worst I sell the models on eBay/put them on my shelf.
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Jan 21, 2014 15:13
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Dr. Clockwork posted:Infinity is more like XCOM. We will be watching. you spend money
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Jan 21, 2014 15:32
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ijyt posted:Yes, yes those will do nicely. It might be worth my time just buying up some models so they can see the quality of 'em, while proxying the rest so we can experience the rules. So, which factions? (don't kid yourself into thinking you're only getting one)
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Pierzak posted:So, which factions? I quite like the Ghost in the Shell vibe of PanOceania/Yu Jing have, and Ariadna for the British special forces look (also that underdog pun in the OP). Haven't quite read into the play styles of the factions yet.
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ijyt posted:I quite like the Ghost in the Shell vibe of PanOceania/Yu Jing have, and Ariadna for the British special forces look (also that underdog pun in the OP). Isn't ALEPH supposed to be the Ghost In The Shell looking one?
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I can see what he means, PanO does scream Appleseed and GitS.
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poo poo yeah I was just about to post, it's Appleseed I was thinking of for PanOceania. But the little Mulebots and Armbots remind me of Tachikoma the most.
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ijyt posted:poo poo yeah I was just about to post, it's Appleseed I was thinking of for PanOceania. I really like ALEPH's AI Beacons. Something about the fluff idea of them going "Ok, this is ours now." and proceeding to construct-additional-pylons all over your face.
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So I'm assuming the starter sets would have be covered (apart for terrain/rules) for a basic game?
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ijyt posted:So I'm assuming the starter sets would have be covered (apart for terrain/rules) for a basic game?
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Dr. Clockwork posted:Infinity is more like XCOM. I need to play XCOM. 
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bhsman posted:I need to play XCOM. I only played it recently, and the whole time I kept thinking of Infinity. Though it has Overwatch instead of reactionary firing, but still...smoke grenades, utilizing cover or you die, alien murder squads...
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bhsman posted:I need to play XCOM. Yes, you do. A re-skinned XCom would make suuuuuuch a good Necromunda game.
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Pierzak posted:Nope, the starters are not points-balanced, they're just 6 models each (unless you just want to run a "3 grunts with rifles and a HI" to learn the rules). Assume that a starter + 2 blisters will be enough. I'm a bit confused on the different roles of the models in this game, so if I go with the Aleph starter pack what am I looking to buy? If it helps, I like the look of the Maruts and Rebots 
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ijyt posted:I'm a bit confused on the different roles of the models in this game, so if I go with the Aleph starter pack what am I looking to buy? The Aleph pack gives you an Asura (top dog, hard as nails but expensive unit), a Deva (in the box she has to be your hacker in order to make it a legal list), a Naga (stealthy infiltrating model with mines) and three Dakinis (basic rifle robots). In small games the Asura will be almost half your points - she's 70+ points in a game played at 200-300 points. Good first purchases would probably be the box of Devas with Devabots (to give you an alternative lieutenant model and a "spare" Deva you can use as one of the other options), or the Myrmidon Officer blister pack (again, a cheaper commander - the Myrmidon is more of a utility model with stealth and smoke grenades). Rebots are a good purchase - they're mobile defensive units that can get into awkward places and lay down good amounts of heavy weapon fire for not many points. The Marut on the other hand is the biggest, costliest thing in the entire faction - it's a 126-point giant robot that you need to design a list around rather than just including in a normal list.
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Bob Smith posted:The Aleph pack gives you an Asura (top dog, hard as nails but expensive unit), a Deva (in the box she has to be your hacker in order to make it a legal list), a Naga (stealthy infiltrating model with mines) and three Dakinis (basic rifle robots). Is there a list like this anywhere, that tells you exactly what each unit is 'good at'?
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Deviant posted:Is there a list like this anywhere, that tells you exactly what each unit is 'good at'? This forum thread is a very in-depth run through of every unit and variant in the entire faction - if you go on the Infinity forums there's a similar thread for almost all the factions.
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Bob Smith posted:The Aleph pack gives you an Asura (top dog, hard as nails but expensive unit), a Deva (in the box she has to be your hacker in order to make it a legal list), a Naga (stealthy infiltrating model with mines) and three Dakinis (basic rifle robots). Devas and Rebots it is then. I'll pick up the Marut eventually though because that model. 
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ijyt posted:Devas and Rebots it is then. I'll pick up the Marut eventually though because that model. It is quite nice, although getting the machine gun arms on is a slight pain. 
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What do you guys do for terrain? I love the MDF cut out terrain, but for example a Bug Hunt Corridors or MAS set to populate a 4x4' board would cost about £200. And that is a scary number. e: Actually it would probably be barely enough. ijyt fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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- Badlands: foam rocks/abandoned industrial buildings - cheap but time consuming - cardboard boxes with cardboard reliefs glued on and painted - easy, cheap, hard to get the look really well - random industrial crap - awesome themed tables (if you're doing this you're way better than me and why are you even asking) - learn to repurpose/repaint random household objects Also, cheap aquarium plants. Basically, you can go 3 ways: Cheap & stylized, awesome & horribly expensive, or awesome & self-made (needs lots of talent & time).
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Pierzak posted:- Badlands: foam rocks/abandoned industrial buildings - cheap but time consuming Wow I so focused on the urban aspect I didn't even think to use some of the Tau/badland rocks I've been working on for my 40k board. 
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Look up Scenery Planet on youtube, they make tables for Infinity (also 40k & others) and you can see how can awesome tables be done - super-clean high-tech PanO city, half-overgrown modular Paradiso base, Nomad cargo ship, the possibilities are many.
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Those are straight up ridiculous, and even if I had the skill to make those tables, my main issue is storage. That's why the modular MDF seemed so appealing, unless it needs gluing to be stable.
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So this happened.
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I'm scared that'll happen to soon, too. Though I've forced myself to not buy any models until I finish a good portion of my Tau first. Didn't say I couldn't buy £80 of micro arts terrain though. 
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Pierzak posted:Look up Scenery Planet on youtube, they make tables for Infinity (also 40k & others) and you can see how can awesome tables be done - super-clean high-tech PanO city, half-overgrown modular Paradiso base, Nomad cargo ship, the possibilities are many. Oh but for English subtitles. Still really inspiring stuff.
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