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Hakkesshu posted:By the way, if you haven't heard of it, you should check out Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I'm only bringing it up because I hadn't heard of it until last week, but it's the new show by Michael Schur and Dan Goor and it's really very good. First season is still going, but I've been catching up and it's much better than P&R season 1 so far. And it's on fox so that means it should be around for a while because people actually watch fox shows.
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tonic316 posted:And it's on fox so that means it should be around for a while because people actually watch fox shows. That's actually not true. If it weren't for the critical acclaim and execs at the network liking it, Brooklyn Nine-Nine would probably be a lock for cancellation. It's my favorite new comedy this year, but it's teetering really close to not surviving.
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bull3964 posted:That's actually not true. If it weren't for the critical acclaim and execs at the network liking it, Brooklyn Nine-Nine would probably be a lock for cancellation.
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Hakkesshu posted:By the way, if you haven't heard of it, you should check out Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I'm only bringing it up because I hadn't heard of it until last week, but it's the new show by Michael Schur and Dan Goor and it's really very good. First season is still going, but I've been catching up and it's much better than P&R season 1 so far. I saw two episodes of this on a plane and concur, it's worth a watch. Andy Samberg is the lead, so there's another Parks tie-in.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I saw two episodes of this on a plane and concur, it's worth a watch. Andy Samberg is the lead, so there's another Parks tie-in. Fred Armisen and Tanya from Sue's Salads have made appearances, too. FactsAreUseless posted:So was Parks and Rec, and it's now teetering closer to the survival side than most fans are comfortable with. Oh, come on. Can we not act like this is automatically a negative thing? If you've lost interest in the show and felt it's reached its natural end, that's fine, but I see no reason to believe the writers can't make another season work. This isn't like a Simpsons situation where a popular show's dead body is being dragged endlessly behind a runaway horse; everyone who's working on P&R is probably psyched about getting another season despite all expectations. This thread has become a real loving downer for a show that is normally so positive 
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I hope we get more Craig with Ann and Chris leaving. He's funny as hell
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Hakkesshu posted:Oh, come on. Can we not act like this is automatically a negative thing? If you've lost interest in the show and felt it's reached its natural end, that's fine, but I see no reason to believe the writers can't make another season work. This isn't like a Simpsons situation where a popular show's dead body is being dragged endlessly behind a runaway horse; everyone who's working on P&R is probably psyched about getting another season despite all expectations. It's PTSD from what happened to The Office.
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smg77 posted:It's PTSD from what happened to The Office. Well, I never watched that, and I probably have a different perspective than most of you since I first started P&R last year. Just, even at its most rote, I still think it's an amazing show with a wonderful cast. I'd watch pretty much anything if they were in it.
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The last few seasons of The Office were really bad. I still enjoy P&R every time I put it on; it's still nowhere near the nadir that was the second half of The Office's run.
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It just feels like they are ending things, everyone has become successful and is moving beyond the department. Chris/Ann leaving, Ron in a successful relationship, Tom found a job hes good at in government, April found something cares about and Leslie has realized that she is meant for greater things then Pawnee I mean I like the show but it is the perfect time to end things.
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smg77 posted:It's PTSD from what happened to The Office. We learned our lesson after Rashida Jones left us last time.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:I saw two episodes of this on a plane and concur, it's worth a watch. Andy Samberg is the lead, so there's another Parks tie-in. The bigger tie-in is that it has Chelsea Peretti who is a former writer for Parks. P&R has to really gently caress up the back half of this season for me to start to wonder about a downward slide. People are nostalgic for season 2 and 3, but they had episodes that lulled too. I actually am not the biggest fan of the episode where Larry drops his breakfast burrito and injures himself, I found Andy Samberg's shouty character to be grating. Oh and Galentine's Day with that loving lawyer character. Not every episode can be amazing, and let's all remember this is nowhere near post-season 5 Office antics.
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The Larry joke is the perfect example of how far Parks and Rec has fallen.
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PriorMarcus posted:The Larry joke is the perfect example of how far Parks and Rec has fallen. How so? I find it to be in line with their treatment of him.
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Boywhiz88 posted:How so? I find it to be in line with their treatment of him. It's the same joke as before (they got his name wrong), makes the characters seem cartoonish (they actively abuse him and he takes it) and it's a little more cynical and than the show seems adept at handling seemingly in an attempt to mix things up while simultaneously keeping things the same.
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It's not that cynical. As stated by others before, Larry has the best life out of anyone in the Parks department. He has a great family and beautiful family who loves him, and a wealth of incredible talents. It's a unique way to look at the Office punching bag, and kinda brilliant too.
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PriorMarcus posted:It's the same joke as before (they got his name wrong), makes the characters seem cartoonish (they actively abuse him and he takes it) and it's a little more cynical and than the show seems adept at handling seemingly in an attempt to mix things up while simultaneously keeping things the same. I know what you mean. Which reminds me, when did Chris start joining in on being mean to Gerry? I've never understood why they started doing that.
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The Larry thing is hysterical because he's totally just rolling with it, and why wouldn't he, because Jerry wasn't his name either.
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The Jerry/Larry whatever jokes stopped being funny for me a while ago.
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I agree that the Gerry stuff has thoroughly worn out its welcome. It seemed to get steadily meaner, too. Laughing at him for falling into a lake going for a burrito is one thing. Ben being completely confused as to how Gerry could have a beautiful, loving wife to the point where he has to muse about it and come up with jokey conspiracy theories every time he thinks about it really rubs me the wrong way. I echo the sentiment that the whole thing goes against the tone of the show, especially after they've shown how loyal and dedicated he is time after time. I also don't find Craig funny at all, so I may just have the wrong perspective on this show. Having said that, Parks is still my favorite show on TV, and while I'd be happy to see them end it this season, I think they could make it work if they got renewed. No matter what, it will be bittersweet to say goodbye to the show that introduced me to Aubrey Plaza.
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CelticPredator posted:It's not that cynical. As stated by others before, Larry has the best life out of anyone in the Parks department. He has a great family and beautiful family who loves him, and a wealth of incredible talents. It's a unique way to look at the Office punching bag, and kinda brilliant too. And he has the largest penis I've ever seen. I don't even know if he has mumps. I forgot to look.
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Chairman Capone posted:.. and is completely at odds with the tone of the rest of the show and the characterization of everyone. Congratulations, that's the entire point of the joke. It's funny.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Congratulations, that's the entire point of the joke. It's funny. Hmm this doesn't add up. It's good because it's bad? It's funny because it's the only joke that's not funny?
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ZDar Fan posted:I also don't find Craig funny at all, so I may just have the wrong perspective on this show. I love Crazy Craig, and I hope Billy becomes a more frequent guest. In regards to Jerry/Garry/Larry: Ron said it best, he is both the schlemiel and schlemazel. He is literally a walking joke at work, but to balance it you see that he has this insanely awesome life outside of work. It's why Ben is so taken aback, he doesn't know about Jerry's penis and all he's been exposed to is this dopey old guy. And the Parks people aren't soulless, look at the episode with April, Tom, and Andy trying to get into the party. They realize what dicks they've been to a nice guy, so they end up giving him a generous cash gift. Sure, he ends up locked out for a moment or two but still... that's just Jerry's life
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ZDar Fan posted:I also don't find Craig funny at all, so I may just have the wrong perspective on this show. I'll agree with you here. I love the show but Craig is entirely devoid of humor.
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Bashez posted:I'll agree with you here. I love the show but Craig is entirely devoid of humor. Nonsense, Billy is fantastic. I won't argue that he isn't a poehlerizing figure, though. (Sorry.) I would call it a ballsy casting move, except that he's barely appeared, so how annoyed can anyone be?
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I think it might be a case of 'being a Billy Eichner fan makes you a fan of Craig' a lot easier than 'never heard of Billy Ecihner, but a fan of Craig'. Watch some Billy on the Streets and minds might get changed... that show is just too much fun.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I think it might be a case of 'being a Billy Eichner fan makes you a fan of Craig' a lot easier than 'never heard of Billy Ecihner, but a fan of Craig'. Watch some Billy on the Streets and minds might get changed... that show is just too much fun. I actually had no idea who he was so I started looking into it and I was like "Oh my, Billy Eichner is awesome"
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EL BROMANCE posted:I think it might be a case of 'being a Billy Eichner fan makes you a fan of Craig' a lot easier than 'never heard of Billy Ecihner, but a fan of Craig'. Watch some Billy on the Streets and minds might get changed... that show is just too much fun. I don't think things that aren't funny are made funny by yelling. Billy on the street is okay in small doses. Craig doesn't say funny things.
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Bashez posted:I don't think things that aren't funny are made funny by yelling. Billy on the street is okay in small doses. Craig doesn't say funny things. "That is so freaking cute that I need to go lay down for 45 minutes. NO. AN HOUR. A FULL HOUR"
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Boywhiz88 posted:"That is so freaking cute that I need to go lay down for 45 minutes. NO. AN HOUR. A FULL HOUR" A perfect example of something I don't think is funny and is only expected to get by because of how it's being yelled.
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Go back to the streets, Billy. And Rashida Jones will be starring in a police station sitcom. http://www.avclub.com/article/rashida-jones-already-has-her-next-sitcom-gig-line-107169 Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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Bashez posted:A perfect example of something I don't think is funny and is only expected to get by because of how it's being yelled. But delivery is an important part of comedy. Ron wouldn't be nearly as fun if he was giddy and spoke quickly. It's not that it's yelled, I just like how deadly serious he is and then he stops in the middle to adjust the length of his nap.
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Bashez posted:A perfect example of something I don't think is funny and is only expected to get by because of how it's being yelled. Well, I think it's funny, even as parroted text.
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ZDar Fan posted:drat, I hoped that meant she was joining Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I am happy that she isn't.
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One of the reasons The Office started to go downhill, was because the drama from the key characters started to wane. Specifically with Pam and Jim, after they officially got together and were suddenly extremely happy. Sure, we had their marriage and birth of their first child to look forward to, but at some point they got a little too annoying. Happy people are annoying in a way. Jim's charm is often smarm, and Pam going from sheepish to downright nasty at times made them fairly unlikeable every so often. They even poked fun at it during their failed daycare interview. Granted, they also tried to shoehorn in the drama about the new job in Philly, but somehow it didn't quite work. In other words, everybody's a little too happy at the moment on P&R. They're still generally likeable and everything, not quite as bad as Pam and Jim got, but we need more conflict. We either need to see Leslie struggling to strive for a higher office, or more Ron Swanson family woes (we really haven't seen any of that beyond him being forced to be on the grid,) or maybe some kind of relationship trouble between Andy and April. And hopefully a more steady romantic interest for Tom like we almost got with Ann.
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OmegaBR posted:One of the reasons The Office started to go downhill, was because the drama from the key characters started to wane. Specifically with Pam and Jim, after they officially got together and were suddenly extremely happy. Sure, we had their marriage and birth of their first child to look forward to, but at some point they got a little too annoying. Happy people are annoying in a way. Jim's charm is often smarm, and Pam going from sheepish to downright nasty at times made them fairly unlikeable every so often. They even poked fun at it during their failed daycare interview. Granted, they also tried to shoehorn in the drama about the new job in Philly, but somehow it didn't quite work. We need more Jam.
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