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What hot hatch do you own?
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Golf GTI / R / R32 196 0.02%
Impreza WRX / STi 133 0.01%
Mazdaspeed 3 92 0.01%
Veloster Turbo 20 0.00%
Focus ST 149 0.01%
Other Hot Hatch 230 0.02%
Elantra GT 1000001 99.92%
Total: 1000821 votes
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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Imagine a 2 liter fiesta RS beside the 2.3 liter focus RS.

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

InitialDave posted:

You consider the Celica a hatch? Weird. While it has a hatch, it's pretty universally considered a coupe here.

I was wondering how long until someone called me out on that - it's the size of a god drat sedan.

I've got something coming soon though that definitely deserves a place in this thread...

jfreder
Feb 27, 2008
Girlfriend picked up her Fiesta ST last week. It is definitely a fun car to drive around although I don't have much experience with any performance oriented cars. Haven't driven stick in ages so it has been fun to relearn. The snow is a bit interesting with the summer tires but we might try to get through this season before making any changes.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
I don't suggest it. I got caught out -one- time on my Goodyear F1s and thought I was going to die.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Put snow tires on it, don't be a hero.

You want to be Powerslidey McParkingLotDrifter.

Math You
Oct 27, 2010

So put your faith
in more than steel

jfreder posted:

Girlfriend picked up her Fiesta ST last week. It is definitely a fun car to drive around although I don't have much experience with any performance oriented cars. Haven't driven stick in ages so it has been fun to relearn. The snow is a bit interesting with the summer tires but we might try to get through this season before making any changes.



Get snows. Driving that thing with any snow on the roads is grossly irresponsible. You are not the only person who could be hurt.

jfreder
Feb 27, 2008
Ultimately the car won't keep summer tires. It is probably too much of a gamble to hope we don't get snow the rest of the season with it only being mid January, though. The thing I have been wondering is whether she should get wheels+snows or just have some all-seasons put on the stock wheels. Are low profile all-seasons worth it?

blueblueblue
Mar 18, 2009
You bought a $24kish new car. Suck it up and buy a set of snow tires on steel wheels. You will get 2-3 seasons of use out of them, and the summer tires will last longer. All seasons are a crappy compromise.

I have a crappy civic and it gets snow tires. I don't want to gently caress up my car and it is worth 1/5 the value of what you just paid. You want to risk your life, your car, and other's people lives? Don't be that guy. Go buy snow tires.

e; for grammar.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

jfreder posted:

Ultimately the car won't keep summer tires. It is probably too much of a gamble to hope we don't get snow the rest of the season with it only being mid January, though. The thing I have been wondering is whether she should get wheels+snows or just have some all-seasons put on the stock wheels. Are low profile all-seasons worth it?

Buy the smallest set of steelies you can jam on there. I run 19s summer and 15s winter. Just remember, you're much more likely to hit a curb/giant pothole in the winter than in the summer.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
There are plenty of places where snow tires don't make sense for the rare times it noticeably snows. That parking lot pic doesn't exactly look like an Arctic icescape.

That being said, if you were going to go with an all-season compromise, it would've been a lot cheaper to strike a wheel swap with the dealer before leaving the lot. Summer tires in winter (snow or not) are a bad idea.

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

To be clear, since no one has mentioned it - summer tires don't just suck in the snow. They're designed to work within a range of temperatures, and if the environment becomes very cold they harden up and lose traction. You'll be experiencing traction below what all-seasons could provide all winter.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Small steelies are like $50 each. Get a dedicated set of winter tires.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
I just picked up a Fiesta ST, fully loaded, recaros, navi, sunroof etc. Absolutely love it so far. Great power, amazing handling, excellent interior.
The summer tires are terrible in this weather, its been below freezing and even on clean dry roads they are all over the place, especially if there is salt on the road. I've already been pulled over twice in a week, so I just ordered a Valentine One for it!

I want to buy snows but I just bought a set for my miata and I'm going to want r-comps for the Fiesta for auto-x and tracking, and I figure I can rock the miata when it snows.

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Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
I wish I had a place to store the summer tires :( We have been driving the jeep as much as possible but today's snow wasn't supposed to be here until later, so now I have to drive home on the F1's in 6 inches of snow.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Sepist posted:

I wish I had a place to store the summer tires :( We have been driving the jeep as much as possible but today's snow wasn't supposed to be here until later, so now I have to drive home on the F1's in 6 inches of snow.

You gonna die.

SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007

My "normal" Fiesta has winters on it and it's great in the snow. Winter tires on steelies are cheap insurance.


veedubfreak posted:

Buy the smallest set of steelies you can jam on there. I run 19s summer and 15s winter. Just remember, you're much more likely to hit a curb/giant pothole in the winter than in the summer.

Doing this payed off for me a couple weeks ago.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k

veedubfreak posted:

You gonna die.

5 miles home, didn't die! gently caress these tires in the snow though, gotta figure out where I can store these rims

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Sepist posted:

5 miles home, didn't die! gently caress these tires in the snow though, gotta figure out where I can store these rims

The one time I got stuck out on my F1s I was lucky and had already replaced the rears with all seasons. So I only had problems start and stopping but didn't have to worry too much about spinning. Still the longest commute I've ever had.

triple clutcher
Jul 3, 2012

jfreder posted:

Girlfriend picked up her Fiesta ST last week. It is definitely a fun car to drive around although I don't have much experience with any performance oriented cars. Haven't driven stick in ages so it has been fun to relearn. The snow is a bit interesting with the summer tires but we might try to get through this season before making any changes.


that color is gorgeous. :allears:

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Love the performance blue. The lady has it on the Focus, looks almost purple in the sunlight.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Bovril Delight posted:

Love the performance blue. The lady has it on the Focus, looks almost purple in the sunlight.

my fiancee still insists it's purple.

It catches my eye immediately on any other car on the road, that's for sure.

I live in a place where snow tires should be unnecessary but this winter has been incredibly cold, I've managed to stay off the roads most of these nights because I'm not risking cold rubber F1s. poo poo already torques around at the drop of a hat :3:

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I got caught in a snow storm with my summer tires on and I could make the rear end step out just touching the throttle. In 5th gear.

I think that hour long drive aged me a few years.

mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and vulvas and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dongs and volvos and dons and volvos and dogs and volvos and cats and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs
As someone who has owned almost nothing but turbo rwd coupes, in a town at 7200ft, y'all are a bunch of pussies.

68Bird
Sep 2, 2004
I've been starting to have a few problems with my '06 GTI, and I'm really starting to lust for a Fiesta ST. Is anybody driving an ST in a place that sees real, honest winter? I'm in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and poo poo gets seriously snowy. My GTI does acceptably well for the most part when I'm running winter tires, but clearance is obviously an issue. I do find the sound of adjustable traction control on the ST to be appealing, because the GTI's can definitely be more of a hindrance than a help in certain situations. Paying full retail for a new car is also something I've never done and am terribly adverse to doing, but I don't know if I'll be able to stop myself once summer gets here.

pr0craztinazn
Feb 24, 2006

jfreder posted:

Girlfriend picked up her Fiesta ST last week. It is definitely a fun car to drive around although I don't have much experience with any performance oriented cars. Haven't driven stick in ages so it has been fun to relearn. The snow is a bit interesting with the summer tires but we might try to get through this season before making any changes.


The one I ordered will look exactly the same!

I'll echo the already posted advice to get winter tires; the summer tires will last longer that way, and she'll be much safer when the temperatures are low and traction is otherwise reduced.

There are some videos of the Fiesta ST driving around in 3-5" of snow on Youtube, if that is of any help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFW1NAF8eh4

jfreder
Feb 27, 2008

pr0craztinazn posted:

The one I ordered will look exactly the same!

I'll echo the already posted advice to get winter tires; the summer tires will last longer that way, and she'll be much safer when the temperatures are low and traction is otherwise reduced.

There are some videos of the Fiesta ST driving around in 3-5" of snow on Youtube, if that is of any help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFW1NAF8eh4

She was actually pretty happy to be able to get one off the lot and not have to order. Every ST around us was either black or silver but then this one popped up about 2 hours away. We went to a local dealer where she got her first car and they were willing to dealer trade for it. She didn't go for the Recaros but we haven't had any problem with the normal cloth seats in it.



I put some 15" steels and Blizzaks on it yesterday at work, just in time for some more snow.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Sepist posted:

5 miles home, didn't die! gently caress these tires in the snow though, gotta figure out where I can store these rims

If you get them changed over by a shop, a lot of tire shops will store them for you for a nominal fee (I think I paid $40 for the changeover and $20 for storage).

SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007

jfreder posted:

She was actually pretty happy to be able to get one off the lot and not have to order. Every ST around us was either black or silver but then this one popped up about 2 hours away. We went to a local dealer where she got her first car and they were willing to dealer trade for it. She didn't go for the Recaros but we haven't had any problem with the normal cloth seats in it.



I put some 15" steels and Blizzaks on it yesterday at work, just in time for some more snow.

What size tires are those? The winter tires on my Fiesta are 195x60R15 which are about 0.8" taller than stock ST tires. They are fine on my SES but the ST is lower so I'm worried they will rub if I get one and I want to use the same winters.

jfreder
Feb 27, 2008

SFH1989 posted:

What size tires are those? The winter tires on my Fiesta are 195x60R15 which are about 0.8" taller than stock ST tires. They are fine on my SES but the ST is lower so I'm worried they will rub if I get one and I want to use the same winters.

These are 185x60R15 which are just slightly taller than stock. It happens to be the same size as the spare that comes with it.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Faceless Clock posted:

To be clear, since no one has mentioned it - summer tires don't just suck in the snow. They're designed to work within a range of temperatures, and if the environment becomes very cold they harden up and lose traction. You'll be experiencing traction below what all-seasons could provide all winter.

This is important! Anything below 8˚C/46F is too cold for the compound in summer rubber to work properly.

albear
Jun 7, 2001

the doctor will see you now..
Motor Trend compares the 2015 WRX with the Focus ST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVA7_6uzZ0

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I have lovely aftermarket 16" alloys for my snow tires on my Focus ST and they look like rear end. I am going to plastidip them after this winter. Color thoughts? I'm thinking some sort of heinous electric blue color.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I have lovely aftermarket 16" alloys for my snow tires on my Focus ST and they look like rear end. I am going to plastidip them after this winter. Color thoughts? I'm thinking some sort of heinous electric blue color.

What color is the car?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

What color is the car?

Duuuuh somehow managed to edit that out. It's black.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Has to be neon green

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Bovril Delight posted:

Has to be neon green

One side green, one side pink.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Alternate each spoke in a rainbow effect

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

albear posted:

Motor Trend compares the 2015 WRX with the Focus ST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVA7_6uzZ0

That was a pretty decent review, I kind of liked that guy. Thanks for sharing

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Each wheel is a yin yang

Troll your local shop by constantly taking them in to check the balance

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Sep 29, 2007

skipdogg posted:

That was a pretty decent review, I kind of liked that guy. Thanks for sharing

I know I shouldn't but I can't help it; I want a 2015 STi.

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