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Jim Silly-Balls posted:What does Rick say about the mop and bucket at the end? I think I misheard it because I dont get the joke at all. Rick: What the hell happened to this place? Beth: Uh, your Meseeks box happened. They went crazy when they couldn't take 2 strokes off Jerry's golf game. He felt terrible! Rick: Hey it's not my fault that Jerry's an idiot. Lady: DAD! Is there anything you can do to clean this place up? Beth: Well you know, I do have a Fleeseeks box-- Jerry: No. No more boxes. Rick: What?! It just has a mop and some floor wax in it! Wuba-luba-dub-dubs, haha! *The studio audience cackles as Rick gives his signature line and dance move, delighted that his Fleeseeks box is just a mundane box full of cleaning supplies. What a twist!*
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I just watched all five episodes (I even bought the first 3 after watching the last 2!) and this show is great. I'd have to say my three favorite plotlines are Anatomy Park, Dog World and Mr. Meeseeks. Also this weeks controversial scene is like the third major "joke" about child rape in the series. Personally I found "He made me feel like a girl" more disturbing than Mr. Jellybean.
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zoux posted:Also this weeks controversial scene is like the third major "joke" about child rape in the series. Personally I found "He made me feel like a girl" more disturbing than Mr. Jellybean. A cameo appearance by Crumply Crumplestein as the Jellybean King could have ended much worse. Muuuuuuuch worse. Morty's lucky he walked out of that bathroom with his face still attached.
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Holy poo poo the Meeseeks sound just like Lemongrab when they get angry, no wonder their frustration was practically palpable.
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:Did anyone else find a startling similarity between Dan Harmon and the Giant? I was getting serious caricature vibes from that brief scene. Yeah, I thought the giant couple looked like caricatures of him and Erin McGathy
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:Did anyone else find a startling similarity between Dan Harmon and the Giant? I was getting serious caricature vibes from that brief scene. Definitely. I'm also 90% sure Harmon voiced the priest-looking guy (who also sorta looked like him) during the post-credits scene.
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So where did the pre-industrial dude get a Zippo in the post credits scene?
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Sudo Echo posted:So where did the pre-industrial dude get a Zippo in the post credits scene? Magic.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Magic. Such a bullshit explanation. It was science.
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Sudo Echo posted:So where did the pre-industrial dude get a Zippo in the post credits scene? UGH THIS SHOW WAS SO REALISTIC UP UNTIL NOW THANKS DAN HARMON. THANHARMON
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:THANKS DAN HARMON. THANHARMON Rick & Morty, with music by Gelg
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Jan 23, 2014 00:42
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They weren't pre-industrial OKAY they were post-apocalyptic
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And why is no one questioning the polaroids, which were arguably more high-tech than the zippo?
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dumpster17 posted:And why is no one questioning the polaroids, which were arguably more high-tech than the zippo? Alan Smithee posted:They weren't pre-industrial OKAY they were post-apocalyptic
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Alan Smithee posted:They weren't pre-industrial OKAY they were post-apocalyptic They were just very poor, like they lived in that world's equivalent of a third world country. Stuff from countries with higher standards of living still makes it there.  I liked that that to make Summer popular, they somehow called a school assembly on a day's notice for no other reason that to explain how good of a friend this one specific student would be, and it totally worked.
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Dr Christmas posted:They were just very poor, like they lived in that world's equivalent of a third world country. Stuff from countries with higher standards of living still makes it there. They probably skipped all the other stuff like the pizza parties and the wet prom the meseeks talked the staff into allowing. Pulling people from lovely classes always helps too
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Alan Smithee posted:They probably skipped all the other stuff like the pizza parties and the wet prom the meseeks talked the staff into allowing. Pulling people from lovely classes always helps too Maybe Meseeks was just a persuasive public speaker. 
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I know he does a killer opening.
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BexGu posted:This is one of the things that really makes me like Rick. Sure he is a egotistical jackass and completed self centered but he really does love Morty. And god help you if you gently caress with his family. That's really one of my favorite aspects of the show, the obvious love he has for his grandson despite being a reckless lunatic. I didn't think the attempted rape scene was supposed to be funny at all, it was definitely unsettling and hosed up. But it set up Rick's reaction of realizing what happened, convincing Morty to continue on with his adventure quest as a way to cheer him up, and then killing the jellybean king for assaulting Morty. It was surprisingly touching, it's what makes this such a great show and not just a really funny show. My girlfriend was horrified when the jellybean king forced Morty into the bathroom stall, but her reaction when Rick killed the jellybean king summed it up perfectly: "Awww, he really loves Morty!"
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Well I see it more as Rick being territorial only he may have his balls licked by Morty
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Possibly Rick looking slightly chastened as well. The overall creep factor was a little high (for me at least) but on the other hand the series gets so much stuff right that it's really not worth making a federal case out of it. It's got to be hard to play along the edge of really dark material without going over it now and then.
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Was streaming Human Music in my car today; got looks while stopped at a red light. Haters gonna hate on Human Music, but I like it.
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Where's the link for human music? I want to enjoy some of that great human music.
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TontoCorazon posted:Where's the link for human music? I want to enjoy some of that great human music. Human Music
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I've been trying to better put into words my thoughts on the episode now that it's been a few days and I've watched it again and the creators have spoken up. There's one scene about halfway through the episode, when Rick and Morty are in court and the lawyer who works for a little people advocacy group appears. He says, "These little men were never read their giant rights and are therefore free fi to foe home." Everyone in the court acts confused, so he explains, "They're free to go is what I meant. I'm deconstructing our thing we say for giants. Nobody got that?" I think that sentence is basically what this episode is about. Everything gets deconstructed and our expectations turned upside down. The Meseeks only exist to serve their purpose then die, but they're fine with that. In fact they want it. The giant who had treasure was just some guy. We expected a treasure room and maybe fighting a monster, we saw a courtroom and a murder trial. Summer and Beth give the Meseeks apparently difficult tasks and we expect them to cause chaos, but they succeed wonderfully. Jerry asks a simple question, just like Rick told him to, but it ends in a hostage crisis in a restaurant's walk in refrigerator. When Rick and Mort finally make it back to the village with his poker winnings and we're told the king is coming to thank them, we think poor Mort might just get his good ending. But the king is, of course, the pervert from the toilet. Even the post credits scene, with the photos in the cardboard box continues the theme. The king's secret is hidden when we might expect revelation. And of course, there is no magical, "it's all right" to make us all smile. Ricks murders the king but his people will never know why. They were saved but will forever think they have lost a great leader. Of course, even the toilet rape scene was part of this. We initially saw Morty get some great words of encouragement and maybe expect him to walk out of there with renewed vigour and take real charge of their quest. Instead we got a sleazy scene. And we might have expected it to end when the jelly bean first gets creepy, but those expectations were turned on their heads, too when the scene continued on to the point where it became upsetting to a lot of people. In fact, I can't think of a single scene (except maybe, Rick shooting the king) were what happened is what we expected to happen. And the way Rick goes wakka wakka wakka at the end with his family, mugging to an audience and breaking the fourth wall. I think that might well have been the creators taking the roll of the giant lawyer and asking us, "We're deconstructing the things we see in cartoons and comedy. Nobody got that?" Or I might be completely wrong and it was the creators saying, "Hey, it's just a cartoon. Don't get too worked up, it's just supposed to be a bit of fun." Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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I'm pretty shocked that there isn't already a dubstep remix of this.
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TontoCorazon posted:I love this song. It's good, but it's no Machadaynu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwyuB8QKzBI
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This thread really needs a first post that more accurately reflects how loving excellent this show is.
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JT Jag posted:I'm pretty shocked that there isn't already a dubstep remix of this. That is the dubstep remix.
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Gorilla Salad posted:And the way Rick goes wakka wakka wakka at the end with his family, mugging to an audience and breaking the fourth wall. I think that might well have been the creators taking the roll of the giant lawyer and asking us, "We're deconstructing the things we see in cartoons and comedy. Nobody got that?" I suspect the former. That analysis was pretty tight. Now I'm left to ponder whether or not I, after additional viewings, would have picked up on what the lawyer was saying.
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Glad the whole song was posted, when they just play bits of songs in shows they always horribly butcher and edit it to get the best parts. I like it.
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I thought about the bathroom stall thing in this episode some and I'm still not exactly sure what to think. On one hand, I get the vibe Roiland is putting out - there aren't any overt jokes in that scene. It's genuinely quite upsetting. It's not meant to be funny per se, it's meant to be jarring and harrowing to watch. Sure, I can kind of see it. But on the other hand, no matter how you spin it, the scary rapist dude is still kind of a giant talking jelly bean. And while there aren't any written punchlines, it's definitely playing with the comedy of expectations. The setup is that he looks like a whimsical fantasy cartoon, and the punch is that he's actually a rapist. I dunno. I think on the whole I come down against. I liked the rest of the episode, and I can see what they were going for, and maybe it's even nearly there, but it still comes off slightly wrong to me. Apart from anything else, it feels similar enough to the "male character gets sexually assaulted" beat that we see being played for direct laughs in other, dumber material that I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with it.
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My take on it is that the scene wasn't meant to be funny at all. The point of the scene was that horrible things can happen to us in seemingly safe settings, at the hands of apparently benign people. The fact that the scene wasn't played for laughs (unlike comparable scenes in, say, in South Park, Family guy or The Simpsons) is a crucial difference. And it's worth mentioning that, unlike what happened on those shows, Morty successfully fought off his assailant.
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Android Blues posted:I thought about the bathroom stall thing in this episode some and I'm still not exactly sure what to think... Yeah but it's one thing entirely for you, the viewer, to go "I think they were playing with the expectations of the audience here" and another entirely for Roiland himself to come out and say "this is a scathing commentary on rape culture  ". Obviously this show doesn't exist in a vacuum where a cartoon has never made rape a punchline (ex: Family Guy, like, a lot) and obviously that's going to come into play. The thing is, while the show is still defying the viewer's expectations it's simultaneously doing everything it can to squash any sense of joy or humor in the scene. From the dingy bathroom stall to the delivery of the dialogue, even the jellybean king is suddenly drawn like crumply crumplestein. Most telling is that the episode never even tries to come back from this. After that scene the jokes in the a-plot end.The intent is obvioiusly to take the audience from a place where they're ready to laugh to the same "this isn't fun anymore let's just go home" mentality as Morty. Chairman Mao fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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Christ guys, the set up is that the guy was a serial child rapist who took advantage of his position and wealth in order to exploit kids with no fear of repercussion, and the punchline is that he got vaporized by Rick, this random-rear end dude who wouldn't have even been there if it weren't for the adventure, and that the only reason he couldn't continue doing what he was doing indefinitely was because Morty chose to go on this adventure in the first place. This isn't that hard.
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > Rick and Morty: IN DEPTH RAPE ANALYSIS
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > Rick and Morty: IN DEPTH RAPE ANALYSIS Hey man, if a show is gonna do a scene showing attempted rape, and on top of that the creator is on record saying the scene is meant to be serious, I don't think it's out of line to analyse that scene. It's a serious topic and the show itself is explicitly interested in discussing it.
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Android Blues posted:Hey man, if a show is gonna do a scene showing attempted rape, and on top of that the creator is on record saying the scene is meant to be serious, I don't think it's out of line to analyse that scene. It's a serious topic and the show itself is explicitly interested in discussing it. It's more how weirdly obsessed the internet is with sexual assault when compared to everything else. Nobody is upset about the graphic murders in the show, but a jelly bean trying to get a boy to lick him is too much. Everyone has to fall over themselves proclaiming to strangers about how it affects them. It's worse than circumcision or well done steaks.
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Ariza posted:It's more how weirdly obsessed the internet is with sexual assault when compared to everything else. Nobody is upset about the graphic murders in the show, but a jelly bean trying to get a boy to lick him is too much. Everyone has to fall over themselves proclaiming to strangers about how it affects them. It's worse than circumcision or well done steaks. I don't think there can really be such a thing as being "weirdly obsessed" with talking about how the media portrays sexual assault. It's a really serious issue and actually does affect most of the people on the planet one way or another, and unlike murder, people are far more likely to be gunshy about condemning it or having an open discussion of the culture that surrounds it. Besides which, there's literally a post from the show's co-creator up there talking about how it is a serious issue and the stuff in this episode perhaps merits discussion. I don't think you can simplify that to just "the internet is crazy" when the guy who literally conceptualised the scene is willing to discuss how it might be or cause a problem. I dunno man. It's cool not to want to talk about a thing. But given both the content of the episode and the stuff from Roiland talking about the episode, talking about it seems entirely germane to the broader topic.
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