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Xguard86 posted:or they'll just show a baby boomer getting up really early to do something rural. Something, ironically, you could probably do in almost any car on the road today. But I have these hay bales! They need to be transferred from the place where the bales are to some animals in a pen! No a four wheeler and a trailer won't do, these are hay bales! They need to go from over here, by the barn, to over there, by the animals!
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Xguard86 posted:Toyota also started building full sized trucks that appealed to the US market and the American manufactures knew how that story ends and started updating. At least Ford seems to be doing that, IDK about GM and Dodge they're still kind of riding the 'murica' wave. That Chevy lost calf video makes me rage out because they do not say a goddamn thing about the truck and its all clearly pandering. I dunno. I think Dodge stepped up their game pretty well with all those storage compartments and the coil springs.
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I'm getting sick of the F150 Dennis Leary commercials. If you're a REAL MAN that WORKS you need a F150 or you're a human being.
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Powershift posted:I fully expect some "but aluminum is fragile" Isn't damage to aluminum really expensive and hard to fix? Door dings from parking lot excursions are going to make insurance rates on these things skyrocket. Not to mention any damage done by the 17 people that actually use pickups for pickup truck things.
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Some alloys of aluminum are pretty dent-resistant, for example the types of alloys that aluminum bicycle frames are made from. The common door ding might not even leave a dent, though of course they could still chip the paint.
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By switching from steel to aluminum they also lose enough weight to increase thickness, which will help counter that by quite a bit.
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Would the people that use pickups for pickup things be in any rush to get dings fixed anyway? Not like it's going to rust.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Would the people that use pickups for pickup things be in any rush to get dings fixed anyway? Not like it's going to rust. I think that last bit will be a big selling point.
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So now Ford rivals the DoD as one of the largest single users of aluminum in the world. 
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leica posted:I'm getting sick of the F150 Dennis Leary commercials. I don't like them much either but at least he's screaming actual information at you and they pitch "smart people made this" which I find much more palpable than draping a flag over the thing and calling it a day.
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Nodoze posted:I loved the idea of getting a Z3, but it ended there. Theres just no reason to ever buy one over a Miata or S2000 other than "it's a BMW and I want a BMW." You can spend a lot less and get a better car you can do a lot more to, is dead reliable and easy as dirt to maintain, or around the same to slightly more for a much better car that's dead reliable, easy as dirt to maintain, and that you can also do a lot more to. I don't think the Z3 is particularly great looking either, and the plastic rear window is gross. Well, all is forgiven about the Z3 when you consider how awesome the Z3M Coupes and roadsters are.
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DropShadow posted:If your mom doesn't like "sitting down" into a car, she won't like the X1. It's not a high-riding CUV by any means, it's a hatchback disguised as one. Thanks for the input. Didn't help any as she is getting the X1 that is on it's way from Germany to the dealership. I don't know if she's even driven one. My dad didn't get another X5. He got a used Evoque instead. They aren't very practical sometimes.
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BraveUlysses posted:Well, all is forgiven about the Z3 when you consider how awesome the Z3M Coupes and roadsters are. Isn't the Z3 the worst culprit for the subframe tearing issue that a lot of E36 vehicles suffer?
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Yeah, it's just another reason you'd never really want to own a Z3 that isn't an M Coupe/roadster. But on the other hand, most Z3's don't make enough power and aren't driven nearly as hard so maybe it's not that big of a deal. My M Coupe didn't have any trouble with it by the time I sold it.
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AdmiralViscen posted:What are you basing this on? Cadillac is competing more directly (and successfully) with BMW than ever with the ATS and CTS. They are also working on a real fullsize RWD flagship on a unique platform to compete with the 7 series. Features wise and all the ATS is pretty competitive and it's definitely getting new bodies in to Cadillac showrooms, which is great, but uh definitely do not look at average days supply on that vehicle. GM kinda maybe misread the market a bit.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Features wise and all the ATS is pretty competitive and it's definitely getting new bodies in to Cadillac showrooms, which is great, but uh definitely do not look at average days supply on that vehicle. GM kinda maybe misread the market a bit. I was responding to someone who was nt talking aout sales, but about Cadillac targeting Acura rather than the major German brands. That's not the case.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Features wise and all the ATS is pretty competitive and it's definitely getting new bodies in to Cadillac showrooms, which is great, but uh definitely do not look at average days supply on that vehicle. GM kinda maybe misread the market a bit. What's the damage? I'm not sure where to find those numbers.
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After the newest chassis breakdown and details on the new transmission I'm pretty solid on the z06 at this point. (Not sure if they were posted already: http://m.autoblog.com/photos/id/161..._inline_gal_art and http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1089778_gm-8-speed-in-corvette-z06-shifts-faster-than-porsche-pdk-heres-how) I'm considering putting in a preorder on an auto; does anyone know if the transmission itself is used in any other vehicles and if it's actually any good? I know the press lines about are positive but even if Juechter's stuff is true I'm hesitant to go feet first. While I don't mind going with the manual instead, I don't really care for manuals in properly powerful cars, particularly ones that will be used for DD. I have heard all previous Corvette automatics have basically been 80s-tech wrecks that are better at converting happiness into sad than torque into acceleration so I'm not going to put any money down until I know the actual story. However, apparently the CTS-V was faster around a track with its auto than its manual, and if I'm getting a no-respect car like a Corvette I'd like to have performance in mind. Spades fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Spades posted:After the newest chassis breakdown and details on the new transmission I'm pretty solid on the z06 at this point. It's not used in any other vehicles, or any vehicles right now since the Z06 is still 2 years away. Eventually it will probably go into the trucks. The CTS V-sport transmission is actually the Toyota 8 speed from the Lexus LS/ISF because this GM one wasn't ready/didn't fit in the car.
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Is it wrong to want an aluminum bodied F-150 with a GM Gen IV based v8? Also with all the talk over door dings, etc. maybe its time to revisit Saturn's idea of plastic body panels for work trucks.
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Like the honda element, make whole body panels out of that rubbermaid stuff.
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Cream_Filling posted:Like the honda element, make whole body panels out of that rubbermaid stuff. They should team with Rubbermaid for a production car. The F-150 Rubbermaid Edition.
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Cream_Filling posted:Like the honda element, make whole body panels out of that rubbermaid stuff.  Please no.
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Snowdens Secret posted:
Does the Avalanche or Prius have a higher ratio douchebag drivers? 9 times out of 10 when I have an rear end in a top hat brotruck on my rear end its a loving Chevrolet Avalanche.
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https://twitter.com/motortrend/status/425659120356556800 Ideas?
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Rhyno posted:New MX-5? In the response stream you can see someone already guessed that and the response was "Bigger. Much bigger."
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http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/im-100-certain-its-the-wienermobile-1505862919
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Well, what cars do we know were going to be released around this time? The only one that's come up for me is that Lincoln may possibly be putting out a refreshed Navigator soon, but that's probably not it.
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Throatwarbler posted:Well, what cars do we know were going to be released around this time? The only one that's come up for me is that Lincoln may possibly be putting out a refreshed Navigator soon, but that's probably not it. Check out the link above. It's the new Weinermobile.
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Throatwarbler posted:Well, what cars do we know were going to be released around this time? The only one that's come up for me is that Lincoln may possibly be putting out a refreshed Navigator soon, but that's probably not it. It's probably best we don't discuss the new navigator this close to supper time, people may be eating.  Official debut is tomorrow.
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Powershift posted:It's probably best we don't discuss the new navigator this close to supper time, people may be eating.  Well that sure is a thing. Are we to suppose that the new Expedition will also be unveiled around the same time? Hopefully it won't be styled quite so aggressively.
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Welp, so much for any excitement about this whatsoever.
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Ford press release says the 3.5l TT engine will be in it. I'm surprised the 6.2l isn't going in too. Interior will be new as well. I'm kind of curious why the Navigator never sold as well as the Escalade. On paper I think it tows more, has IRS, and was cheaper too. Is it just the styling? My main reservation about the current Navigator is that the greenhouse seems comically oversized compared to most other vehicles. Probably helps visibility though.
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Throatwarbler posted:Ford press release says the 3.5l TT engine will be in it. I'm surprised the 6.2l isn't going in too. Interior will be new as well. "Oh look a Ford rebadge." "OOH CADILLAC!"
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So they are killing of Lincoln after all. Look at that front end, I bet if you honk the horn you hear a slightly slurred voice asking to be 'told about the rabbits again.' e: I think the Escalade took off while the Navigator floundered because the former had better exposure in music videos, I don't remember the exact story but it could have gone either way if I have it right. redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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I thought about it a bit more and it occurred to me that the Ford 5.4l is down 100hp vs GM's 6.2l, so that probably has something to do with it too. The 6.2l Raptor/Harley Davidson engine should have been in the Navigator yesterday.
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