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Probably harboured a lot of resentment against Schumacher over the years. Comin' over 'ere, winning our grand pricks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-GaXa8tSBE http://news.sky.com/story/1199981/tommy-robinson-edl-founder-jailed-for-fraud Sky News posted:Tommy Robinson: EDL Founder Jailed For Fraud Rude Dude With Tude fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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drat, Political Scrapbook is becoming psychic.quote:Tommy Robinson has been forced to cancel his speaking tour of schools. Looking to switch to a less extreme – and financially lucrative — brand of Islamophobia since leaving the EDL, Robinson raised collective eyebrows when it was reported the themes on which he would engage school children included “tolerance”.
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Poor old Tommeh. Stitched up like a kipper, guv.
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The EVF (English Voluntary Force) are coming to London on 15th March. They're a splinter group of the EDL that appear to use solidarity with the Ulster loyalists, which they go on about endlessly, as their 'niche.' Looks from their photos like their previous demos have consisted of a handful of angry looking men holding Union Flag.I think this one's on the same day as a BNP rally in London, too, although I don't know about the relationship between the two groups. Don't they usually just end up punching each other or something? They'll be a counter-demo, which so far I can't see any involvement from UAF for, so that's a start. The EVF look to be a bit of a joke, but there can't be any harm in outnumbering/opposing them before they even find their voice, just in case. With the return of The Troubles, who knows, they might get some support. Here's a link to the counter-demo: http://blackandredflag.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/stop-the-evf-london-15-3-14/ I can't make it myself.
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I stumbled upon this old footage of the EDL coming to the Netherlands to support Geert Wilders. It features this beautiful scene where Ajax-supporters steal Tommy Robinson's EDL flag, before chasing him into a police van.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7orFuoO_E
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crazyvanman posted:With the return of The Troubles can you elaborate on this for non-UK goons? Sounds horrible 
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To say the Troubles are returning is really overstating it. The Troubles is the commonly used name for the thirty-odd years of sectarian violence in Northern Ireland, roughly between 1969 and 1998.
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The Troubles are not returning,the vast majority of both Nationalists and Unionists see the IRA as nothing more than a criminal gang (Mainly because that's what they are nowadays),and they have nowhere near the support or strength they had during the Troubles.
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ekuNNN posted:I stumbled upon this old footage of the EDL coming to the Netherlands to support Geert Wilders. It features this beautiful scene where Ajax-supporters steal Tommy Robinson's EDL flag, before chasing him into a police van. Good times  I was in the neighbourhood for work that day and watched them gently caress around from the Burger King around the corner. Poor Tommeh and his bulletproof vest
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Yeah sorry I wasn't being entirely serious about The Troubles returning. In any case I'm not sure if there were to be, for example, an IRA bombing that the EVF are even well known enough to capitalise on it, like the EDL (kind of) did with the Lee Rigby murder. Anyway, that's just a tiny part of their campaign, mostly they're concerned with 'the Islamification of many parts of Britain' and immigration. Looks like they're marching to Parliament at 1.30pm supposedly with a bunch of other groups.
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Swan Curry posted:The Troubles are not returning,the vast majority of both Nationalists and Unionists see the IRA as nothing more than a criminal gang (Mainly because that's what they are nowadays),and they have nowhere near the support or strength they had during the Troubles. ekuNNN posted:I stumbled upon this old footage of the EDL coming to the Netherlands to support Geert Wilders. It features this beautiful scene where Ajax-supporters steal Tommy Robinson's EDL flag, before chasing him into a police van.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:lost it at "our lads are surrounded by antifa, the fascists." Yes yes the antifascists are the fascists up is down black is white. There are plenty of people who will legit argue that denying fascists freedom of speech is the real fascism.
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Crashbee posted:There are plenty of people who will legit argue that denying fascists freedom of speech is the real fascism. Goes to show that people have no drat clue about what the point of freedom of speech is in the first place.
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Crashbee posted:There are plenty of people who will legit argue that denying fascists freedom of speech is the real fascism. In this very thread, even.
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crazyvanman posted:Yeah sorry I wasn't being entirely serious about The Troubles returning. In any case I'm not sure if there were to be, for example, an IRA bombing that the EVF are even well known enough to capitalise on it, like the EDL (kind of) did with the Lee Rigby murder. Oh good, I know what the troubles is, but for a non-UK goon it seemed pretty upsetting, what with the social situation in Europe today. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:lost it at "our lads are surrounded by antifa, the fascists." Yes yes the antifascists are the fascists up is down black is white. Are we even sure those were antifa? Ajax fans come in all stripes, might as well be a turf spat.
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Tias posted:Are we even sure those were antifa? Ajax fans come in all stripes, might as well be a turf spat. Anyone who opposes the EDL is Antifa according to EDL-think. Also there is only one Antifa group: UAF - and they are specifically behind everything that the EDL opposes.
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Tias posted:Are we even sure those were antifa? Ajax fans come in all stripes, might as well be a turf spat. An Ajax fan-club put out a call to oppose racism and fascism in their city by protesting against the EDL, so they were there as anti-fascists.
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Do the EDL really merit their own thread? Have they suddenly become a lot more significant recently or something? They're a pathetic fringe group.
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Saki posted:Do the EDL really merit their own thread? Have they suddenly become a lot more significant recently or something? They're a pathetic fringe group. They get a thread because they're pathetic and funny. Laughing at stupid, horrible people, on the Internet or elsewhere, is the very foundation of Something Awful.
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Pathetic and funny though they may be, the Defence Leagues also represent the closest northern Europe has seen to an explicitly fascist street movement in years. While we hope they implode hilariously (and it seems so), they bear watching on the off chance it's the start of something bigger.
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Tias posted:Pathetic and funny though they may be, the Defence Leagues also represent the closest northern Europe has seen to an explicitly fascist street movement in years. While we hope they implode hilariously (and it seems so), they bear watching on the off chance it's the start of something bigger. How northern is northern? Aren't there a few crazy fuckers in Scandinavia? Also, France isn't exactly northern Europe, but it's the UK's closest geographic neighbour unless you count the Republic of Ireland, and the Front National is pretty big over there.
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I live in Denmark, which has only a few fringe groups that rarely see eye to eye. Danish Defence League almost brought them together, but it cracked out. Sweden is another beast alltogether, with large neo-nazi groups that fortunately meet with popular resistance whenever they gather. E: Apparently, four people have been stabbed by neo-nazis in Malmö last night, one seriously so. It just never loving ends 
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Nationwide socialism, you say? 
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There was a documentary on BBC3 last night about the EDL, and I was pretty appalled by how uncritical it was. It was basically just 'here's some young people in the EDL and what they get up to', it's almost like it was attempting to rehabilitate the EDL's public image. Great job 'left-wing bias' BBC  http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03y442b/EDL_Girls_Dont_Call_Me_Racist/ It's just interview after interview of 'here's what we believe in, and why we're totally not racist and all-round Good People.'
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Answers Me posted:There was a documentary on BBC3 last night about the EDL, and I was pretty appalled by how uncritical it was. It was basically just 'here's some young people in the EDL and what they get up to', it's almost like it was attempting to rehabilitate the EDL's public image. Great job 'left-wing bias' BBC I dont know, I think it does a pretty good job of showing a bunch of loving ignorant idiots up for being loving ignorant idiots.
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Zero Gravitas posted:I dont know, I think it does a pretty good job of showing a bunch of loving ignorant idiots up for being loving ignorant idiots. yeah this exactly, they didn't need to do anything other than show them exactly as they are. The argument against them was, in fact, them.
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Answers Me posted:There was a documentary on BBC3 last night about the EDL, and I was pretty appalled by how uncritical it was. It was basically just 'here's some young people in the EDL and what they get up to', it's almost like it was attempting to rehabilitate the EDL's public image. Great job 'left-wing bias' BBC What did you want the BBC to do that they didn't? The very first statement made by the presenter is that the EDL are 'a far-right racist street movement whose protests often end in violence', which doesn't sound like it'll do them any favours.
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How about not give a platform to a loving fascist street movement.
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I say broadcast their stupidity so the world so everyone knows their chuckle gently caress antics. It's kind of like Jesus Camp, you really don't need someone explicitly telling you the people on screen are awful.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I say broadcast their stupidity so the world so everyone knows their chuckle gently caress antics. It's kind of like Jesus Camp, you really don't need someone explicitly telling you the people on screen are awful. Does this argument really work though? Documentaries like Jesus Camp and this EDL one are hardly making Evangelicals or Fascists rethink their lives and opinions; it's more aimed at people who watch it already thinking these people are a bit nutty. It comes off that way too so those who are sympathetic to the doc subjects just write it off as it being biased or what not. So it doesn't really serve much of a purpose.
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Kaveman posted:Does this argument really work though? It was interesting and useful in a know-thy-enemy way, and they did show some of the consequences of being in the EDL for anyone considering joining, like everyone thinking you're a tosser and getting your head kicked in. The teenage girls seemed mostly lost and lonely, using the EDL as a social network and the demos as dating opportunities(!) for the most part.
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No BBC documentary is going to convince a actual fascist to abandon their horrible ideals, even if it's footage straight from Hell of what the Devil does to racists. Which is mainly making them actually live as racial minorities. Might keep some confused teenagers from thinking they're cool though.
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There was an EDL march in Peterborough today, apparently about 300ish edl members. There was a counter protest headed by the Peterborough Trade Union Council, however there was only about 100 people it seems. 
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I was there, I've heard estimates around 150 counter-protestors and that seems likely from what I saw. After the counter-march and speeches I went over to see what the fash themselves were up to. Surprisingly, they had one half-decent speaker, a woman who stayed on topic, seemed sober, and didn't descent into complete bullshit. After her, normal service was resumed, when another speaker announced that 95% of rapes in the city are committed by Muslims.
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I really, really like that union banner.
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Vitamin P posted:I really, really like that union banner. I really want some cheese on toast.
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At the museum I work at, someone vandalised some displays in the Anglo Saxon gallery by putting a vinyl sticker over them that said in red capitals ANTI ENGLISH PROPOGANDA. The displays that they targeted were ones that had the temerity to state that English people aren't originally from England. Does anyone know if this is offically A Thing with nationalist groups, or just a lone racist howling into the void?
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