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At some point somebody should just make a football names thread to save us from ourselves
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Jan 23, 2014 23:02
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Check out the sweet deep ball Stephen Morris has got: https://vine.co/v/MBdLZ00mh1E
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Jan 23, 2014 23:14
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GNU Order posted:At some point somebody should just make a football names thread to save us from ourselves Like the gas chamber really needs another thread
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Jan 23, 2014 23:22
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:I hope Blaine Gabbert wins a superbowl Backing up for the Browns.
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Jan 23, 2014 23:23
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Doltos posted:Bertrand Bortles would be an absolutely terrible halfback that gets taken in the third round. Barry Bortles would be a relief pitcher for the Royals back in 1986. Benny Bortles would of course be a heroin addicted saxophonist. Doltos posted:Brock Bortles - Good, can't believe I didn't think of this. I can see these guys in my head and it's the best thing.
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Jan 24, 2014 00:01
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Senior bowl notes: http://msn.foxsports.com/ohio/story/seen-and-heard-at-the-senior-bowl-012314 quote:**There is a lot of belief that Banner is in charge of almost everything, and that Lombardi -- though hidden from the public -- "is always talking." Two people told me they absolutely believe the rumors about the Browns and Johnny Manziel are true. "You can put it in your Twitter now and save it," one person said. "They're taking Manziel."
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Jan 24, 2014 02:07
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Well I mean there is the proven winner and intangibles to consider.
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Jan 24, 2014 02:21
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Bigass Moth posted:Senior bowl notes: Johnny Manziel is a man who knows what to do with a brick
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Jan 24, 2014 03:11
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Bigass Moth posted:Senior bowl notes: Johnny loving Factory-of-sadness
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Jan 24, 2014 04:30
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Intruder posted:Johnny loving Factory-of-sadness Does Cleveland actually have a good O-Line or are we going to see a repeat of RG3?
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Jan 24, 2014 04:39
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I believe they have a top 5 oline? They have Joe Thomas and Alex Mack
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Jan 24, 2014 04:40
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John Brown posted:Why are people so hard on Glennon? He may have not debuted as well as Luck, RGIII, or Wilson, but I thought he played really good for a rookie QB in a dumpster fire of a coaching staff. From a couple pages back, but Glennon wasn't even among the top 100 quarterbacks in college football his senior season, let alone the top 100 players.
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Jan 24, 2014 04:55
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Intruder posted:I believe they have a top 5 oline? they don't have anything besides them
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Jan 24, 2014 04:56
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:From a couple pages back, but Glennon wasn't even among the top 100 quarterbacks in college football his senior season, let alone the top 100 players. Again, I'm speaking towards what he's done his rookie season in the NFL. Regardless of him looking like a giraffe he's played pretty well.
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Jan 24, 2014 05:31
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Roasted Donut posted:they don't have anything besides them Schwartz had one good season and one not-good season, guards can be upgraded easily - it's hardly a dumpster fire, so long as they devote draft picks or free agent money to getting guards that aren't Shawn Lauvao. On the other hand, wouldn't be a draft without every amateur pundit yelling THE BROWNS NEED WEAPONS so we'll end up with two running backs and three receivers in the first three rounds
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Jan 24, 2014 05:42
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Roasted Donut posted:they don't have anything besides them If they do something like 1) Manziel 2) Jordan Matthews 3) Jarvis Landry and get Ben Tate in Free Agency, that could be a pretty good offensive haul.
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Jan 24, 2014 05:47
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amaranthine posted:Schwartz had one good season and one not-good season, guards can be upgraded easily - it's hardly a dumpster fire, so long as they devote draft picks or free agent money to getting guards that aren't Shawn Lauvao. I still feel fairly certain the Browns are going to sign Ben Tate so probably won't need a RB
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Jan 24, 2014 05:48
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Intruder posted:I still feel fairly certain the Browns are going to sign Ben Tate so probably won't need a RB Probably true. More picks to squander! It's like christmas all over again.
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Jan 24, 2014 05:56
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It's a well known fact that Joe Montana is the best QB name of all time
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Jan 24, 2014 06:34
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Intruder posted:I believe they have a top 5 oline? Alex Mack is a free agent who will most likely chase money/wins. He sounded pretty upset at the front office after the Chud firing.
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Jan 24, 2014 06:52
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Mack and Ward both have very good reason to leave, and I think both said the Chud firing would influence their decision. So if nothing else firing Chud lost the Browns two starters yay
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Jan 24, 2014 07:37
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It seemed like Mack was already disgruntled even before the Chud firing, wasn't there some story during the offseason that he was pissed that management never even approached his camp about an extension before his walk year?
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Jan 24, 2014 07:40
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Rap posted:Mack and Ward both have very good reason to leave, and I think both said the Chud firing would influence their decision. So if nothing else firing Chud lost the Browns two starters yay Walterfootball is floating the rumor that he was fired because he wasn't sold on Manziel for QB. That would be a very interesting controversy. Gain a QB and lose his line.
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Jan 24, 2014 07:51
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Any chance Mack gets franchised?
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Jan 24, 2014 07:54
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PrinceRandom posted:Walterfootball is floating the rumor that he was fired because he wasn't sold on Manziel for QB. That would be a very interesting controversy. I'd like to imagine the conversation went along the lines of "Hey maybe we should interview him at least before committing oh bye."
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Jan 24, 2014 08:06
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Grozz Nuy posted:It seemed like Mack was already disgruntled even before the Chud firing, wasn't there some story during the offseason that he was pissed that management never even approached his camp about an extension before his walk year? That happens all the time and both sides get past it though. But either way yeah he can't be happy with the front office now
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Jan 24, 2014 08:49
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Intruder posted:Any chance Mack gets franchised?  John Brown posted:Why are people so hard on Glennon? He may have not debuted as well as Luck, RGIII, or Wilson, but I thought he played really good for a rookie QB in a dumpster fire of a coaching staff. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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Jan 24, 2014 08:53
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Well the offensive lineman number is much higher than the safety number so probably Ward I guess
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Jan 24, 2014 09:05
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That presumes that you believe Ward is as good of a safety as Mack is a center, and personally I would disagree but who knows what the Browns administration thinks about literally anything at this point.
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Jan 24, 2014 09:10
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Last year's o-line number was nearly $10m which is incredibly high even for an elite center For comparison, Chris Myers will be $7m and he's arguably the best center in the NFL
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Jan 24, 2014 09:12
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poo poo I didn't know "OL" was just one category. Otherwise I'd say Mack if we could just do the average of the top 5 centers. Hm...I've been so down on Ward recently but overall he is above average.
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Jan 24, 2014 09:12
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Yeah, for the franchise number offensive line is considered a single position. Good if you want to keep an elite LT, bad if you want to keep an elite anything else
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Jan 24, 2014 09:13
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I didn't realize all offensive line positions were valued equally for the franchise tag, I just knew that safeties were one of the lowest valued positions for franchise purposes. That does probably prevent Mack from getting tagged, but from his perspective that's probably a good thing.
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Jan 24, 2014 09:16
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Grozz Nuy posted:That presumes that you believe Ward is as good of a safety as Mack is a center, and personally I would disagree but who knows what the Browns administration thinks about literally anything at this point. I guess it'll come down to whoever they feel is more able to be signed if neither are under contract by the deadline.
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Jan 24, 2014 09:21
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Last year's oline number was just under $10m, last year's safety number was just under $7m, so it depends how you value each position and how you value each player. $10m is LT money though Franchising Mack would make his cap hit (guaranteed mind you) about $2m below Joe Thomas  e: Duane Brown is signed through 2018 and his largest cap his is $9.75m and the last two years of his contract have no dead money if he's cut, man the Texans got a loving steal Intruder fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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Jan 24, 2014 09:23
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Grozz Nuy posted:I didn't realize all offensive line positions were valued equally for the franchise tag, I just knew that safeties were one of the lowest valued positions for franchise purposes. That does probably prevent Mack from getting tagged, but from his perspective that's probably a good thing. They have over 24 million in cap space right now without making any cuts or restructures, they can afford to sign anyone they want.
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Jan 24, 2014 14:55
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A Pale Horse posted:They have over 24 million in cap space right now without making any cuts or restructures, they can afford to sign anyone they want. Pale Horse I've seen Tampa getting a variety of players with their first three picks, with a couple of people saying they'll get Mosley. Based on how Lovie is, what do you think the focus will be in Tampa?
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Jan 24, 2014 14:57
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ZenVulgarity posted:Pale Horse I've seen Tampa getting a variety of players with their first three picks, with a couple of people saying they'll get Mosley. Based on how Lovie is, what do you think the focus will be in Tampa? I think its still really hard to tell, especially with Licht just coming on board this week. The biggest need positions are Pass Rusher, O-line, Tight End, Receiver, probably in that order so I would say knowing Lovie's philosophy they try to snag a pass rusher early. Clowney will certainly be gone and its a matter of if they think either Barr or Mack can transition to a 4-3 DE successfully. 7th is also pretty high for any of the other traditional 4-3 DEs not named Clowney. A lot also depends on whether Nicks can play or not which we just don't know yet (and may not before the draft). If he can't then we absolutely need a guard. Davin Joseph was atrocious this year and the rotating cast that played the other guard position (Merideth, Larsen, Zuttah) weren't much better. Still 7 is awfully high for a guard especially in a draft like this one where there aren't any standout guard prospects to speak of. I'd say Ebron is a chance though again, its pretty drat high for a tight end. Sammy Watkins is a guy I've also seen mocked to us a bunch and while I'm never against the idea of adding another talented receiver its not a priority with Mike Williams coming back next year. The wild card is of course what they think of Glennon. They've been mildly positive about him but no one has made anything approaching a commitment to him so if say Bridgewater is there at 7 for some reason, or even Carr, do they take the shot? If no one they really like is there at seven they may also trade down to recover our 3rd round pick (which the Jets have for Revis). Its still really early but I definitely think they're going to try for a Dline pass rusher to complement McCoy early if they don't take a swing on a quarterback.
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Jan 24, 2014 15:09
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A Pale Horse posted:They have over 24 million in cap space right now without making any cuts or restructures, they can afford to sign anyone they want. They won't franchise Mack or Ward. They had a ton of space last year and didn't use it, and there's no way they value Mack at $10 million or Ward as a top-5 paid defensive back.
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Jan 24, 2014 15:27
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Bigass Moth posted:They won't franchise Mack or Ward. They had a ton of space last year and didn't use it, and there's no way they value Mack at $10 million or Ward as a top-5 paid defensive back. Oh yeah, whether they will or not is another story, but if they want they can afford to sign either of them.
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