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EL BROMANCE posted:Irish Joe missed a trick by not watching the last episode of Rick and Morty and posting about that in here instead. To be honest, I don't know how I feel about the attempted child rape scene or its aftermath. On the one hand, I think the attempted rape itself was very effective both in presentation and in getting its message across. On the other hand, I think whatever power the scene had was undercut at the end of the episode when Rick killed the rapist. Its hard to reconcile the views that the world is unpredictable and dangerous with the idea that bad people will get their comeuppance because while the former is true, the latter is not. The message would have been a lot more consistent if the rapist wasn't killed, though I understand why it needed to be done. As dark as R&M can be, its not that dark.
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Jan 25, 2014 20:30
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I'm a big fan of overzealously defending shows but yeah in ten years at best people will remember shows like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, etc. In 10 years most of the jokes on Community won't even make sense. Certainly in 20 years. Society in case you haven't been watching is changing at hyper speeds now compared to the changes from 1994 to now (which are already fairly big). Then there's the likelihood of simple media oversaturation to the point where only awkward weird hipsters even watch anything more than a year old. Oh wait that's already true.
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Jan 25, 2014 20:34
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precision posted:in ten years at best people will remember shows like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, etc. People already don't remember Mad Men, let alone in ten years.
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Jan 25, 2014 20:58
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Irish Joe posted:Dear television, I really don't understand why the Mindy Project bothers with its more serious/dramatic moments. They've shown they're willing to end Mindy's long-term relationships in, like, 30 seconds, so there's no point in getting invested in one of them shockingly ending. The joke-writing on the show is strong, but I can't imagine anyone caring deeply enough about the characters to be satisfied by the Emotional Heft of, like, Danny reconciling with his dad or whatever.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:00
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:If you think any show is going to be remembered 10 years from now then you are naive beyond imagination. It's very hard for a show to get to the level where it's remembered fondly for years to come like MASH or Twilight Zone. Community isn't ever going to sniff that threshold.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:06
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Seinfeld was the last timeless comedy. I don't think there is one more recent than that. The shows either have the timeless humor but not a big enough audience to stick (P&R, 30 Rock, etc) or have the audience but no timeless humor (your 2.5 Men and whatever else the proles watch). Realistically I could see Archer being pretty timeless, Always Sunny is a toss up because they do crutch on topical humor sometimes (though I reckon The DENNIS System is timeless), and I would like Wilfred to go down as a fantastic work of art but it seems to have dropped way low on the radar with season 3 so who knows.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:20
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Trast posted:It's very hard for a show to get to the level where it's remembered fondly for years to come like MASH or Twilight Zone. Community isn't ever going to sniff that threshold. I think Community will be remembered, mostly for the whole thing about how Harmon was kicked off the show and then asked back after a season without him.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:24
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muscles like this? posted:I think Community will be remembered, mostly for the whole thing about how Harmon was kicked off the show and then asked back after a season without him. No one outside of hard core hollywood insider news followers are going to know or care about that.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:35
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New AMC spy show looks really dreadful. I loved reading the premise but this looks like a high school play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-q_lPaaWqU
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Jan 25, 2014 21:38
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Mu Zeta posted:New AMC spy show looks really dreadful. I loved reading the premise but this looks like a high school play. Oh it looks fine. I'll give it at least a few episodes. Then again I think Black Sails looks fine too, so perhaps I shouldn't be listened to.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:44
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Mu Zeta posted:New AMC spy show looks really dreadful. I loved reading the premise but this looks like a high school play. I... no? It looks like a Revolutionary-era period drama on a decent cable TV budget.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:45
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I only saw a few episodes of Sleepy Hollow and I think it looked way better, though stylized.
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IRQ posted:Oh it looks fine. I'll give it at least a few episodes. Black Sails looks really good, but I don't want to get my expectations too high.
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Jan 25, 2014 22:28
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precision posted:In 10 years most of the jokes on Community won't even make sense. Certainly in 20 years. Society in case you haven't been watching is changing at hyper speeds now compared to the changes from 1994 to now (which are already fairly big). While the jokes may not "make sense" in 10 years time, I don't think it will be "dated". It will be looked as a product of it's era- but that's not necessarily a bad thing. precision posted:Seinfeld was the last timeless comedy. I don't think there is one more recent than that. The shows either have the timeless humor but not a big enough audience to stick (P&R, 30 Rock, etc) or have the audience but no timeless humor (your 2.5 Men and whatever else the proles watch). Curb Your Enthusiasm's humour/style will still be working. because it's similar to Seinfeld in that regard. Archer is a great example because the show itself is chronologically confused and it's a mish-mash of the 50's and present day technology. Sunny will definitely still be funny in ten years time. Will it still be edgy? That's up for debate.
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Jan 25, 2014 23:23
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Joramun posted:People already don't remember Mad Men, let alone in ten years. Haha, whatever Glee boy. And people say that I'm a bad poster.
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Jan 26, 2014 00:11
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BarbarousBertha posted:Dennis Cry-sings Jewel was amazing. Oh my god as a huge fan, is there a clip of this on YooToob?
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Jan 26, 2014 00:31
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raditts posted:Community just seems to be in a bit of a holding pattern, after a great first couple episodes it seems like the only character development in general this season is "leaving for good due to dying" or "leaving for good due to another character dying." I honestly don't know if you're joking or not. Are you seriously suggesting a show is in a holding pattern (of two episodes) because two of it's main cast left and they felt they should address that? On top of that the last couple of episodes have been fantastic so I don't understand the complaint. I could be being an idiot and you're actually joking but this is Community so who knows.
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Paradox Personified posted:Oh my god as a huge fan, is there a clip of this on YooToob? Not that I could find without being links to  Are you in a Hulu friendly region or use Hola or whatever? http://www.hulu.com/watch/585717 It starts around the 16 minute mark.
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Jan 26, 2014 02:25
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so i am house sitting this week for my aunt and uncle, who apparently have the entire collection of House M.D. on DVD. Is this worth watching?
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:so i am house sitting this week for my aunt and uncle, who apparently have the entire collection of House M.D. on DVD. Sure, if you like Hugh Laurie. He's literally the only reason to watch beyond the first couple seasons. But he's a great reason to watch.
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Jan 26, 2014 03:40
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:so i am house sitting this week for my aunt and uncle, who apparently have the entire collection of House M.D. on DVD. There's not a whole lot of depth to it, but yeah, if medical procedurals and/or Hugh Laurie being a wiseass sounds like your thing, let it rip. Don't be shock if you start to burn out on it, though.
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Jan 26, 2014 03:42
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As medical procedurals go, House is probably the most tolerable. I somehow stuck with it for all 8 seasons as it was airing, but by the end I couldn't wait for it to be over. I'm honestly not sure if I could make it through the entire run watched on a basis other than week to week. That said there's a lot good and fun about it and since you're killing time you might as well just watch until you get bored with it.
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:so i am house sitting this week for my aunt and uncle, who apparently have the entire collection of House M.D. on DVD. It's a good show that showcases Hugh Laurie but towards the end the show runs out of steam. But what show that is on eight seasons can't have that said about them?
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Jan 26, 2014 04:36
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Trast posted:It's a good show that showcases Hugh Laurie but towards the end the show runs out of steam. But what show that is on eight seasons can't have that said about them? How I Met Your Mother and Doctor Who.
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Jan 26, 2014 04:44
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You absolutely can't say HIMYM ran out of steam at the end of it's run, this is true.
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And as for Doctor Who, I think a show that has literally never kept a cast member for more than five years in a row or so, even when it's by design, can also be an exception to the general statement about shows running out of steam.
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Trast posted:It's a good show that showcases Hugh Laurie but towards the end the show runs out of steam. But what show that is on eight seasons can't have that said about them? Supernatural, Psych (although the last 2 episodes there have been weak actually.)
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Trast posted:It's a good show that showcases Hugh Laurie but towards the end the show runs out of steam. But what show that is on eight seasons can't have that said about them? Out of its 20 seasons, the original Law & Order only has one year (Season 17) that's nearly unwatchable, but everything else is pretty rock-solid.
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Jan 26, 2014 05:49
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Trast posted:It's a good show that showcases Hugh Laurie but towards the end the show runs out of steam. But what show that is on eight seasons can't have that said about them? American Dad gets pretty consistently great halfway through the first season.
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Jan 26, 2014 06:17
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Always Sunny has been pretty drat funny for its entire run. It helps that they can just do whatever ridiculous story they want since the core of the show is just "a bunch of idiots that own a bar but don't have to actually work".
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Jan 26, 2014 06:33
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Stanfield posted:I honestly don't know if you're joking or not. Are you seriously suggesting a show is in a holding pattern (of two episodes) because two of it's main cast left and they felt they should address that? On top of that the last couple of episodes have been fantastic so I don't understand the complaint. I could be being an idiot and you're actually joking but this is Community so who knows. You are an idiot, but because you're unable to understand context, not any of that other stuff you wrote.
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What context? I'm genuinely asking here, because I don't see how any context could make calling two episodes with extraneous circumstances a holding pattern make sense. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just confused  .Fake Edit: Unless you're calling the whole season so far a holding pattern in which case I guess I just disagree but whatever.
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Jan 26, 2014 07:23
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House owns, musical montages at the end of sitcoms are all Scrubs' fault, House seriously owns, watch House.
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Jan 26, 2014 07:31
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Stanfield posted:What context? I'm genuinely asking here, because I don't see how any context could make calling two episodes with extraneous circumstances a holding pattern make sense. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just confused I was talking in terms of character development. I haven't really cared for episodes 3-5 of this season in general, but that's not what I was referring to.
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Jan 26, 2014 07:54
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The first two or three seasons of House are pretty good. And the beginning of season 4 with the game that introduces Olivia Wilde and Kal Penn is pretty fun, too.
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House is great up until about season 6, at which point it becomes spotty, but there are flashes of greatness, and the finale is fantastic. edit: Actually, now that I think back on it, Season 4 is the best season of House, because it shakes things up, introduces a couple great new characters, and has the single best episode of the series (Wilson's Heart). Yoshifan823 fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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Jan 26, 2014 08:03
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raditts posted:I was talking in terms of character development. I haven't really cared for episodes 3-5 of this season in general, but that's not what I was referring to. No I got that part. I guess I just don't see a problem with having a couple of episodes with similar character focus, considering the situation. I felt there was enough of a difference that it didn't really bother me, not nearly as much as it would have if they'd chosen to ignore Chevy leaving.
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raditts posted:You just reminded me that I never got through all of season 3 of Wilfred. I got about halfway through and was just so utterly bored by every episode being "Wilfred teaches Ryan some kind of profound life lesson by being a tremendous poo poo and ruining his day." Oh yeah, the show definitely fell into a rut, which was especially bad coming after season 2, which I consider nearly flawless.
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