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1212121 posted:Logged in to find 21.5k RCs and a bunch of cool gear from utlaar. Thanks! your welcome! 21k is lower than i would have thought, there must be a very large penalty in xp for our level difference. I will keep her around longer next time to get you some decent rc.
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Mordiceius posted:I did the quest where I took the hydra head to the city and then some pawn guy told me to go to the Eversomething. Are you doing the sidequest that has you look for Quina? If so, I believe you're running past the entrance to Witchwood, where you should be going. Just follow the road south from that small canyon you enter the area with. If the bandits are giving you trouble on the road there, I believe going at night will replace some of them with wolves.
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SoggyBobcat posted:Are you doing the sidequest that has you look for Quina? If so, I believe you're running past the entrance to Witchwood, where you should be going. Just follow the road south from that small canyon you enter the area with. If the bandits are giving you trouble on the road there, I believe going at night will replace some of them with wolves. All of my sidequests are "Kill <X> of <Y>" except I did pick up this one guy that wanted to be escorted to this fort in the middle of fuckoffwhoknows.
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Mordiceius posted:All of my sidequests are "Kill <X> of <Y>" except I did pick up this one guy that wanted to be escorted to this fort in the middle of fuckoffwhoknows. The MMO-esque kill quests aren't really sidequests that you set out to complete, so much as they are sidequests that you pick up and end up finishing while doing other stuff. Escorts just aren't worth doing at all unless you really want the reward from one. There's like a million of them. Seriously, just ignore that poo poo. If you've already done everything near the starting area, you're probably best off doing the everfall main quest. Just remember that sometimes you're best off just running away from certain things. Also worth noting that your travel options open up significantly over time. There's a shortcut through the quarry that makes it much easier to move between Gran Soren and the southwest of the map, and ferrystones (bought from Fournival or the Black Cat) end up being pretty cheap pretty soon. You're right that the game doesn't give much direction but I feel like that becomes less of a problem once you get a bit past where you are right now. Vargs fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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As lame as it sounds, I just wish quests had level numbers associated with them ala an MMO. Or just make a red title for "YOURE GOING TO GET hosed IN THIS SIDEQUEST." I have no idea what I should be trying to do immediately and what I should just not be caring about.
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Jan 26, 2014 08:19
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If it's not given to you by a person, ignore it. Certain parts of the map are leveled so areas in the southwest near the bandit fortress and way up north will be really tough, even when you're supposed to go there.
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Jan 26, 2014 08:23
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Yeah, you shouldn't really be grinding the notice board quests. You'll be completing them naturally over the course of the game. The only exception are the quests from the Alehouse.
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Jan 26, 2014 08:26
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I can't stop picking people up and chucking them over ledges, it's breaking the immersion for me completely.
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Jan 26, 2014 08:29
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bluegoon posted:I can't stop picking people up and chucking them over ledges, it's breaking the immersion for me completely. Pick up a pig and throw it at a pawn, it's even better than throwing people off rooftops (not quite as good as dumping them down the everfall, though)
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Jan 26, 2014 08:30
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Captain Novolin posted:Pick up a pig and throw it at a pawn, it's even better than throwing people off rooftops (not quite as good as dumping them down the everfall, though) Picking up a soldier in armor and dropping him on a rock about 20 feet down is so satisfying, it's like a bag of metal hitting the ground. I could do this all day long, really enjoying the game. I've mainly just been doing this for a few hours now, don't really want to do anything else.
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Jan 26, 2014 08:36
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I hope they get around to announcing a sequel for this soon
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Jan 26, 2014 09:34
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Isn't that Deep Down thing supposed to be set in the Dragon's Dogma universe?
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Manatee Cannon posted:Isn't that Deep Down thing supposed to be set in the Dragon's Dogma universe? Nope. It's not.
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Ugh. There's this Cursed Dragon in the Pilgrim's Gauntlet that I just can't beat. It is a story related dragon that pops up when I pick up the Void Key, but I can't seem to kill him (Magic Archer). I think I need the key to progress to the lower level of BBI. Am I just not highlevel enough? I've heard of people of <lvl 50 that were able to beat BBI? What am I doing wrong? I did not do that much damage with Kisses on his heart, but Sixfold Bolt or whatever it is did not do poo poo either. In the end I just Grand Scenscioned in his general direction, jumping on the heart when possible. Got him down to three bars, but I burned through like 8 Wakestones during the fight before I had to retry.
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Jan 26, 2014 21:39
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Sixfold can't kill everything. Cursed Dragons are extremely weak to Fire. Use Explosive Rivet on its heart, launch 3-4 volleys at it, then run up and detonate them. It'll knock the dragon on its side and you can pepper it with more explosives. They're also extremely aggressive, so you're going to dodge roll a lot. You definitely want to play defensively, shoot, dodge, shoot, dodge, etc. until you stunlock it.
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Jan 26, 2014 21:51
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Captain Novolin posted:Pick up a pig and throw it at a pawn, it's even better than throwing people off rooftops (not quite as good as dumping them down the everfall, though) I threw the bratty little child you're supposed to evict/save from Fournival into the Everfall. Felt good, man.
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Jan 26, 2014 21:52
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Sioux posted:Ugh. There's this Cursed Dragon in the Pilgrim's Gauntlet that I just can't beat. It is a story related dragon that pops up when I pick up the Void Key, but I can't seem to kill him (Magic Archer). I think I need the key to progress to the lower level of BBI. Am I just not highlevel enough? I've heard of people of <lvl 50 that were able to beat BBI? What am I doing wrong? I did not do that much damage with Kisses on his heart, but Sixfold Bolt or whatever it is did not do poo poo either. In the end I just Grand Scenscioned in his general direction, jumping on the heart when possible. Got him down to three bars, but I burned through like 8 Wakestones during the fight before I had to retry. The only Cursed Dragon that you have to beat is part of a boss fight and even that is a nerfed version. The Void Keys you can just pick up and book out of wherever you are. Beating BBI at a low level usually comes down to abusing stacking buffs and/or throwblasts, beating Gazer for example can be done at any level with throwblasts.
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I beat the Gazer really easily by hiding behind a pillar that was just above the staircase and slowly plonking arrows at its eye. Run around when it starts shooting tentacles and keep behind cover when it does that big glowy stare thing and you should be fine. The only attack that's worth worrying about is when it makes that big magic eye but that's pretty easy to deal with and lets you do a TON of damage. I did kill that cursed dragon after you pick up that key, but I ended out popping in and out of the hallways to heal either with magic or by just letting my health regenerate since I had some immortal's armour on.
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I could never even touch Gazer until I got down on the ground floor where the game decided that I actually had a valid angle on his eye. I have no idea how people would even begin to fight him with Throwblasts since you can't even aim those, just kinda heave them a few feet in front of you. The cursed dragon guarding that void key can be run from, but you can also cheese it to death by running upstairs into the gallery. It will fly up in the air and hover for a very long time before breathing, giving you an easy shot at it's heart. This method will take a long as time though since when you hit it it is likely to fall to the floor and have to fly back up again, every time.
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Jan 26, 2014 22:37
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Thundarr posted:I could never even touch Gazer until I got down on the ground floor where the game decided that I actually had a valid angle on his eye. I have no idea how people would even begin to fight him with Throwblasts since you can't even aim those, just kinda heave them a few feet in front of you. Use the explosive barrels (or Throwblasts if you have enough extra) to kill a couple of the tentacles so it tries to attack you with the large spike tentacle from the ground (killing tentacles isn't strictly necessary, but it seems to hurry it along). Get it to poke it's eye out, jump and throw Throwblasts at its eye until it flops down and you get the music change, then continue throwing Throwblasts. After this he'll do the magic cannon attack, just kill those tentacles and throw Throwblasts at its eye until its dead.
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Thundarr posted:I could never even touch Gazer until I got down on the ground floor where the game decided that I actually had a valid angle on his eye. I have no idea how people would even begin to fight him with Throwblasts since you can't even aim those, just kinda heave them a few feet in front of you. If you want to know how, click the question mark under my av and search for Gazer. Doing these BBI only runs has certainly taught me a lot about the game and given a new appreciation for some classes (ranger, fighter). One shotting Living Armors at around lvl 40 is never not funny.
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Thundarr posted:I could never even touch Gazer until I got down on the ground floor where the game decided that I actually had a valid angle on his eye. I have no idea how people would even begin to fight him with Throwblasts since you can't even aim those, just kinda heave them a few feet in front of you. My Assassin leapt off the balcony and straight into the Gazer's hideous maw to stab the exposed eyeball over and over and over again. Maniacal laughter optional, but encouraged.
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I'll give that a shot when he feels like showing up again. Oh, a balcony overseeing two condemned gorecyclops, and I have Ninefold Bolt? No problem.  Wait, three garms just showed up and a wizard I didn't see just cast High Maelstrom to pull me off the balcony?  I'm pretty sure somebody knew I was going to cheese that fight and decided to punish me for it.
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That room has like 3 corrupted pawns with high maelstrom. I died to one, used a wakestone, then as I was getting up I got hit by a second one. gently caress that room.
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Captain Novolin posted:That room has like 3 corrupted pawns with high maelstrom. I died to one, used a wakestone, then as I was getting up I got hit by a second one. gently caress that room. Yeah, I just charge right through that area every time. It's a slaughtering pen, and I'm positive it was intended as such, since the Lich that spawns in the opening hallways immediately summons enough cannon-fodder undead to trigger the Garms just as you hit the Gorecyclops room.
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Protip for new BBI explorers: If you see an open window in the Stockade that looks like it leads off the map, don't jump through it. Oh god, don't jump through it. I lived somehow but my healbot got eaten and I have no idea where I am.  e: finally got him. That was a whole hell of a lot of xp. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jan 27, 2014 |
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At what level can I start trying to kick Death's rear end, generally?
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Fraction posted:At what level can I start trying to kick Death's rear end, generally? Your class will determine this. I'd suggest you at least have tier 3 weapons and use periapts. Maybe sometime after 100?
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*Level 100+ with T3 weapons with both the Fighter/Warrior or Mag/Sorcerer STR/MAG enhancing augments are required. The Assassin augment that boosts damage when you're unaccompanied by pawns helps too, since they're just going to blindly charge into his scythe. If you can push your damage over 2500 unbuffed then you're ready to chug periapts and ice that motherfucker. As a rule of thumb, if you can kill True Daimon, your damage is high enough to puncture Death's stupidly high damage threshold. Or you can just spam blast arrows.
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Captain Novolin posted:That room has like 3 corrupted pawns with high maelstrom. I died to one, used a wakestone, then as I was getting up I got hit by a second one. gently caress that room. That's one of the easiest rooms in BBI as a Sorcerer, just use High Maelstrom on them from the balcony and instantly kill everything but the cyclops, which also go down like chumps to that spell. High Maelstrom in general is just infinitely more useful on the isle than in the base game, it's crazy good for dealing with almost everything.
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sitchelin posted:Or you can just spam blast arrows. Literally just this. Have your pawns mule arrows, play a ranger, and use Tenfold. Enjoy the Grim Reaper flopping about like a fish out of water.
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Fraction posted:At what level can I start trying to kick Death's rear end, generally? I managed it at 112 with a tier 2 three star weapon and no periapts. It involved a hell of a lot of ricochet arrows.
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I'm a sorceror and about level 105. I've only done one run of BBI so maybe I should try daimon 2.0 before I try Death? Also - is there a better weapon for a sorceror than a bane archistaff?
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Death is a lot easier than Daimon, he'll just take longer.
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Fraction posted:I'm a sorceror and about level 105. I've only done one run of BBI so maybe I should try daimon 2.0 before I try Death? Sanguine Stalk, the level 3 Bitterblack Isle weapon.
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Just started playing this a few days ago and it's fun but now I'm kind of having my indecision regarding character classes kick in as it always does. Character level is in the teens, with the time being spent as either a Strider or Fighter. Now thinking of going Assassin in a while, but also tempted to try Magick Archer. Simply put I'm seeing too many attractive options. Is there a helpful mindset to approach levelling with? And how easy is it to end up with a gimped character by swapping classes too much?
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goethe gear xx posted:Just started playing this a few days ago and it's fun but now I'm kind of having my indecision regarding character classes kick in as it always does. Character level is in the teens, with the time being spent as either a Strider or Fighter. Now thinking of going Assassin in a while, but also tempted to try Magick Archer. Simply put I'm seeing too many attractive options. If you want to go Magick Archer or Mystic Knight you'll need to spend some time in the Mage classes, because most of their damage comes from the Magic stat. Beyond that, I don't think it's that easy to screw yourself over, since most of the classes take care of themselves - the Assassin class has horrible defense growth, for example, but also comes with two insta-counter moves that nearly one-shot anything without six health bars. You'll want to put some ranks into Fighter to gain the Augment that lets you carry more weight, though, it's super helpful.
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I have cleared pretty much every quest (other than the Unseen Rivals one that I locked myself out of before I knew I could lock myself out of it). But that loving macabre sculpture in Fortress of Remembrance is making me strongly consider not bothering to get all of them. Whenever I do manage to grab a succubus, I just heave them over my shoulder rather than hanging on and letting them fly.
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Thundarr posted:I have cleared pretty much every quest (other than the Unseen Rivals one that I locked myself out of before I knew I could lock myself out of it). But that loving macabre sculpture in Fortress of Remembrance is making me strongly consider not bothering to get all of them. Whenever I do manage to grab a succubus, I just heave them over my shoulder rather than hanging on and letting them fly. Did you try to grab one while jumping?
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Yeah, though I'm apparently terrible at judging my grabs that way because I keep missing. I'll keep trying to do it that way then.
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