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Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Teenage Fansub posted:

Every month I buy 24 DC comics, 14 Marvel, 4 Image, 2 Vertigo, 1 Valiant and 1 Oni too many comics.

e: Actually, I probably spend more on videogames, the same on movies and a bit less on music, and get about equal enjoyment, so I'm not too concerned about how much I indulge in this hobby.

Some all-encompassing Comixology Unlimited subscription thing would be nice though.

How the hell are you still at 24 DC books? Are you including Vertigo?

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Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Soonmot posted:

How the hell are you still at 24 DC books? Are you including Vertigo?

Nope. The Wake and Truillium are the two Verts.

Action Comics
All-Star Western
Animal Man
Batman
Batman & Robin
Batwoman
Constantine
Earth 2
Forever Evil
Green Arrow
Green Lantern
Green Lantern New Guardians
Harley Quinn
Justice League
Justice League 3k
JLD
JLA
Pandora
Phantom Stranger
Red Lanterns
Supergirl
Superman Wonder Woman
Swamp Thing
Wonder Woman

I think Constantine and Pandora are the only legit bad comics which I'll probably drop after the Dark crossover.
Forever Evil is bad on it's own but I'm enjoying JL side stories, so it's really just for keeping up. JLA is bland, but Lemire's about to take it, so it wouldn't stay dropped.
I think everything else is very decent. SORRY!!
e: Oh yeah. 'Green Lantern' is really dull, but I enjoy the new status quo from Jordan and Soule's book, so that's sort of just tagging along too.

Rhyno posted:

God drat do you read some bad comics.

SORRY!!

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jan 26, 2014

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
God drat do you read some bad comics.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Teenage Fansub posted:

Nope. The Wake and Truillium are the two Verts.

Action Comics
All-Star Western
Animal Man
Batman
Batman & Robin
Batwoman
Constantine
Earth 2
Forever Evil
Green Arrow
Green Lantern
Green Lantern New Guardians
Harley Quinn
Justice League
Justice League 3k
JLD
JLA
Pandora
Phantom Stranger
Red Lanterns
Supergirl
Superman Wonder Woman
Swamp Thing
Wonder Woman

I think Constantine and Pandora are the only legit bad comics which I'll probably drop after the Dark crossover.
Forever Evil is bad on it's own but I'm enjoying JL side stories, so it's really just for keeping up. JLA is bland, but Lemire's about to take it, so it wouldn't stay dropped.
I think everything else is very decent. SORRY!!
e: Oh yeah. 'Green Lantern' is really dull, but I enjoy the new status quo from Jordan and Soule's book, so that's sort of just tagging along too.


SORRY!!

As much as everyone here thinks DC is the worstest thing ever and can only suck, there are some choice titles there (like Wonder Woman, Batman and Swamp Thing).
That being said, the DC titles I am reading is Batman, Animal Man (soon to be cancelled), Suicide Squad (soon to be cancelled), Harley Quinn (I know I am a terrible person, Rhyno), Talon (though I might drop this soon if it isn't cancelled soon as well), Aquaman. I have been following Swamp Thing and Wonder Woman via trade, though due to DC's trade policy that means I read one trade per year of those. I do Trillium and Wake from Vertigo.

edit: I also picked up JL 3000 on Comixology thanks to some recomendation from these forums and I loved it.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Madkal posted:

As much as everyone here thinks DC is the worstest thing ever and can only suck, there are some choice titles there (like Wonder Woman, Batman and Swamp Thing).

It's certainly not all bad, don't get me wrong. There are good books. I've just always been on the fringes of DC readership and Nu52 (along with the bizarre behavior to follow) was enough to erode what investment I did have in the line. Dial H was my last holdout, and that at least lasted longer than I expected, which was a pleasant surprise.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Madkal posted:

My DC intake has declined due to cancellations. My Marvel intake is about to decline due to runs ending too (looking at you Daredevil). My image intake has increased though thanks to comixology.

DD isn't getting cancelled really. It's just going digital only for a month before getting a new number one because marketing reasons.


Teenage Fansub posted:

I think Constantine and Pandora are the only legit bad comics which I'll probably drop after the Dark crossover.
Forever Evil is bad on it's own but I'm enjoying JL side stories, so it's really just for keeping up. JLA is bland, but Lemire's about to take it, so it wouldn't stay dropped.
I think everything else is very decent. SORRY!!
e: Oh yeah. 'Green Lantern' is really dull, but I enjoy the new status quo from Jordan and Soule's book, so that's sort of just tagging along too.


SORRY!!

Even in the face of whining posters. Never compromise.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Who's starring in Green Lantern right now? Baz?

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Dan Didio posted:

Who's starring in Green Lantern right now? Baz?

Good ol' Hal.
I really liked when the comic was focusing on Baz and I hope he gets a place now that JLA is over and he ain't gonna be in Lemire's team.
All of the new GL writers have been ignoring him. It stinks.

He's got a gun and a squirrel buddy. Who doesn't want to write that comic?

Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you
I actually end up buying a ton of Boom comics. All the Adventure Time and Regular Show stuff plus Stephen Universe when that starts coming out. Mostly just because they're all being done by artists I like!

I think my only DC comics at this point are Wonder Woman and Animal Man (and some vertigo stuff like Sandman and Brother Lono but those are just limited series) because of cancellations and whatever.

My only marvel book may be Wolverine and the X-Men for reasons I don't really understand at this point. It's cool when I'm enjoying a comic and then for two months it's just a bunch of crossover stuff with books I don't read and have no interest in reading.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Wizard, always on top of who is the hottest around.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


It's weird how every big DC fan I know hates the company, their current books and their business practices. My wife has been reading Wonder Woman since she was a kid. She has a complete run from George Perez up to now. She never had the slightest interest in the Superman/Wonder Woman book and she's even growing bored with the main relatively good book.

I was on a panel discussion about DC at a local scifi convention last year. I had a stack of index cards three inches tall with every gaffe they've made since the New 52 dropped so that I could poo poo talk then. The other panelists claimed to be apologists. They ended up poo poo talking DC worse than I did.

I don't know how they can be making any money. I suppose they're intent on flooding the market with poo poo so they can keep their head above the water.

I can't imagine it's sustainable, but that's probably for the best.

What they should be doing is something more along the lines of what Valiant is doing; a small group of heavily curated books that only delve into natural crossovers. If a book isn't working get a new creative team.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Unbelievably Fat Man posted:

It's weird how every big DC fan I know hates the company, their current books and their business practices. My wife has been reading Wonder Woman since she was a kid. She has a complete run from George Perez up to now. She never had the slightest interest in the Superman/Wonder Woman book and she's even growing bored with the main relatively good book.

This is interesting, because for me, Wonder Woman is the only thing DC is publishing that I care about at all.

Senor Candle
Nov 5, 2008
Just because you don't care about what DC is putting out does not mean that it isn't still selling. Batman still outsells just about everything else as far as I know.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Unbelievably Fat Man posted:


I don't know how they can be making any money.

there are a lot of really stupid comics nerds, man

like it's cool that this panel of yours happened, but while that was going on I guarantee you that some guy, somewhere, walked into his LCBS, started raving to the owner about how epic Blackest Night was, and bought a hundred dollars worth of Geoff Johns Justice League trades.

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 27, 2014

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Senor Candle posted:

Just because you don't care about what DC is putting out does not mean that it isn't still selling. Batman still outsells just about everything else as far as I know.

Remember, BSS is not representative of fandom. As a whole, people love a lot of the books, artists and writers we despise while not paying any attention to the books we love.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
"People on the internet" is a tiny sampling of actual comic fandom, "people on SA" is a smaller sampling of that, and "comic fans who are on SA and are bothered by DC and say something about it" is barely perceptible.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Waterhaul posted:

Wizard, always on top of who is the hottest around.



Jesus, half 75% pretty much all of those look like the results of a Google Image Search for "creepy motherfucker".

Mr. Maltose
Feb 16, 2011

The Guffless Girlverine
I like how everyone else looks like the most 90's of nerds and there's Ostrander who looks like a college professor's About The Author picture.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Waterhaul posted:

Wizard, always on top of who is the hottest around.



So many porn-staches.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
Adam Hughes is leering at me. :(

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Alien Rope Burn posted:

Adam Hughes is leering at me. :(

And Jeff Smith is offering you some candy

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.
Having Frank Miller in there twice makes me think I'm looking at a memory matching game.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!
Looks like that awfulyearbook.jpg pic that gets posted as a reminder that goons are creepy, especially to goon girls. :(

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Vincent posted:

And Jeff Smith is offering you some candy

While Fabian Nicieza is negging you pretty hard.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

John Byrne looks like he's about to cry.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

GorfZaplen posted:

John Byrne looks like he's about to cry.

Because he knows his career is over.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Waterhaul posted:

Wizard, always on top of who is the hottest around.



What the happened to Lobdell in what, ten years? :stare:

Is amusing to see how Capullo used to look given than he could snap me like a twig nowadays :v:

I'm late to the buy chat but I buy few books these days:

Larfleeze
Batman
Lil' Gotham
Scribblenauts Unmasked
Nightwing
Red Hood x3 :v:

I'm buying all the local printed books though: Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, JLA, Injustice, Flash, Batman/Superman and TMNT.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I'm late to the buy chat but I buy few books these days:

Larfleeze
Batman
Lil' Gotham
Scribblenauts Unmasked
Nightwing
Red Hood x3 :v:


You paid cash for that? Yikes.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
It looks like Gaiman's pic was taking for some kind of band promo. Meanwhile most of these pics should be heartwarming to comic geeks. Look comic geeks, we are just like you.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Rhyno posted:

You paid cash for that? Yikes.

The artwork is cute and filled with easter eggs and the story while kind of shallow is just dumb fun :shrug:

Mimir
Nov 26, 2012
If there's one thing we don't need in our modern comics, it's fun.

Sanschel
Aug 9, 2002

Mimir posted:

If there's one thing we don't need in our modern comics, it's fun.

Tiny Titans was cancelled due to lack of limb trauma.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

What the happened to Lobdell in what, ten years? :stare:

Is amusing to see how Capullo used to look given than he could snap me like a twig nowadays :v:

More like 20+ years.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Waterhaul posted:

Wizard, always on top of who is the hottest around.



I'm assuming that by "hottest" they mean "biggest sellers" in this case, right?

This is from, what, 1994? 1995? It mentions Sovereign Seven, which was Claremont's first DC work. Was that a big deal when it happened, Claremont going to work for DC?

Senior Woodchuck
Aug 29, 2006

When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home
It was his first regular series gig since X-Men, so yeah.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
It's actually kind of weird seeing Claremont and Byrne listed in the top writers of the mid-1990s. They did their best work in the 1980s so that's the decade I've always associated them with.

Then again, guys like Brian Michael Bendis and Geoff Johns are still indisputably top tier and they've been in comics for about fifteen years.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Metal Loaf posted:

It's actually kind of weird seeing Claremont and Byrne listed in the top writers of the mid-1990s. They did their best work in the 1980s so that's the decade I've always associated them with.

Then again, guys like Brian Michael Bendis and Geoff Johns are still indisputably top tier and they've been in comics for about fifteen years.

It seems like artists/creative types are generally recognized as great after having completed their greatest works, doesn't it? Once they're done, you can look back and say "drat, that guy's awesome", even if his actual skill has declined since the peak of his abilities. :)

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

prefect posted:

It seems like artists/creative types are generally recognized as great after having completed their greatest works, doesn't it? Once they're done, you can look back and say "drat, that guy's awesome", even if his actual skill has declined since the peak of his abilities. :)

I think part of it is is the "Superstar syndrome" where writers seem to facefault as soon as they become big names. Maybe it's that editors stop reigning in their worst successes, maybe it's that they're put on (or get the swagger to choose) big-name projects they aren't suited for, maybe they buy into their own hype, or maybe the assistant editors start poisoning their coffee with hallucinogens. Whatever the case, very few writers seem to make to the top and come out intact.

I picked up Goldfish during a holiday sale, and it helped reminded me of why Bendis was a big deal once. It's really groundbreaking and thoughtfully done, and... well... when was the last time he did something you'd call "groundbreaking?" Ultimate Spider-Man, maybe? It's just kind of a bummer to think of all the promise a writer showed early on and look at their output now, all too often.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
You can also see how they considered more important. Notice how the artists are listed first, not the writers.

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Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

bobkatt013 posted:

You can also see how they considered more important. Notice how the artists are listed first, not the writers.

Well, let's just be honest, art is probably slightly more important. Yes, it shouldn't be that way, but we all know of books that have terrible writing but good art and survive on that alone, whereas there's not as many that do the opposite.

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