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TASTE THE PAIN!!
May 18, 2004

Wait so you're saying that a documentary about Romney is dull?!

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turnip kid
May 24, 2010
I listened to Glenn Beck for 5 minutes today and he started going on about Katy Perry's Satanic performance ritual at the Grammy's. No joke. I mean, maybe it was a joke and I didn't get it?

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


lil mortimer posted:

I listened to Glenn Beck for 5 minutes today and he started going on about Katy Perry's Satanic performance ritual at the Grammy's. No joke. I mean, maybe it was a joke and I didn't get it?

I found the video of the perfomance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4cT3VJLDg0

I'm not particularly superstitious but I can see how somebody who is could interpret it as satanic, there's a lot of Halloween-style imagery of witches in there.

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.
Well Juicy J is the founder of Triple 6 so its obviously all part of some secret Satanic ritual that endows pop stars with the knowledge & power of the illuminati in order to control the population.

eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blo...s-bachmann.html

The New Yorker posted:

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Dr. Stephen Hawking’s recent statement that the black holes he famously described do not actually exist underscores “the danger inherent in listening to scientists,” Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minnesota) said today.

Rep. Bachmann unleashed a blistering attack on Dr. Hawking, who earlier referred to his mistake on black holes as his “biggest blunder.”

“Actually, Dr. Hawking, our biggest blunder as a society was ever listening to people like you,” said Rep. Bachmann. “If black holes don’t exist, then other things you scientists have been trying to foist on us probably don’t either, like climate change and evolution.”

Rep. Bachmann added that all the students who were forced to learn about black holes in college should now sue Dr. Hawking for a full refund. “Fortunately for me, I did not take any science classes in college,” she said.

Bachmann’s anti-Hawking comments seemed to be gaining traction on Capitol Hill, as seen from the statement by Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), Chairman of the House Science Committee, who said, “Going forward, members of the House Science Committee will do our best to avoid listening to scientists.”

Shine on...

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.



And that's when eggyolk realizes he just quoted a satire piece.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

Well Juicy J is the founder of Triple 6 so its obviously all part of some secret Satanic ritual that endows pop stars with the knowledge & power of the illuminati in order to control the population.

I'm taking Sociology Of Pop Music this semester and someone for real asked the professor if we would discuss the ways that the Illuminati controlled the music industry, or not.


Pththya-lyi posted:

Dominionists want to impose a conservative Christian interpretation of Biblical law on the United States, or at least want conservative Christians in political power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

:freep: Sharia Law :freep:

Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jan 28, 2014

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Yeah Borowitz Report is basically the New Yorker's Onion impression.

TwoQuestions
Aug 26, 2011

So essentially Hawking was wrong about something that only Ph.D holders can understand, and she's essentially going off about how ALL SCIENCE IS WRONG!!!! THE WATER CYCLE IS A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!!

That woman makes my day :)

EDIT: ^^^ It seems I'm a victim of Poe's Law.

TwoQuestions fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 28, 2014

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Poe's Law is getting tougher and tougher these days. :sigh:

turnip kid
May 24, 2010

quiggy stardust posted:

I found the video of the perfomance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4cT3VJLDg0

I'm not particularly superstitious but I can see how somebody who is could interpret it as satanic, there's a lot of Halloween-style imagery of witches in there.

I guess the part I found funny was that he said he didn't get why everyone was talking about Macklemore, when Katy Perry did something so much worse. I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not, but he did his typical set-up with his smug cohorts, who snorted and guffawed along with him at the ignorance of the masses who didn't know they were bedazzled by Satan.

The two guys that do the show with Beck make his show so much worse. They're so God drat cloying and never pass up an opportunity to fellate Beck.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
The Borowitz Report is up there with the Daily Currant in terms of "hey guys wouldn't it be funny if this happened" fake news, which isn't really satire.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Some thoughts on that Fox article.

quote:

BuzzFeed reported that MSNBC ­programs hopped on the story fourteen times in a single week.

This was offered as something impressive but this is an article about Fox news, who would blow through 14 segments about whatever bone they have to pick at the moment in an afternoon, even if it's not current news anywhere other than their network and the fever swamps of the RW blog collective.

quote:

Of course what Kelly said was dumb. But the reaction was even dumber

[citation needed] - Particularly since a lot of the stories featuring it were at least as tongue in cheek as Kelly thought she was coming off as. I'm also not buying the idea that Fox News' annual war on Christmas is in anyway some kind of writ-large troll on the nation as opposed to a genuine boiling over of white christian's pathological need to be seen as scrappy underdogs despite having a monopoly on society.

His evidence is that the left painted itself as the "killjoy p.c. police" but there's no elaboration on what national majority was having a grand ol' time until someone informed them that people have had alternate ethnicity Santa's or why being on the side of reality and decency was actually the unpopular option there.


I also disagree that Fox News being the subject of stories by "the left" is, again, some elaborate troll game. A news organization that inserts itself into the news that often should be reported on (think of what would happen if the rest of the news media today pretended this was still the late 90's and Fox News was an honest to god news org) but it's more likely the need for content on the 24 hour news cycle that's causing this.


I have no doubt at all that Fox News is run by some very very saavy media people who have found a lucrative market in what they're serving and know exactly how to talk to their audience. I also have no doubt that the "left" in the media and the honest news org's are handicapped in the kind of fight Rich is talking about by things like journalistic standards and a sense of being above the fray. I just think he's reading too much into that fight and casting it as a bigger deal than it really is.



Edit: Of course it all comes to a head in the comparison of Ailes leaving Fox News being some kind of equivalent event of the RW losing Obama as a target of their undying hatred that's going to throw the left into some kind of confused tizzy. I'll eat my hat when that happens.

Trying to say that Democrats and liberals are the ones who are going to be hamstrung by an obsession with Fox to the detriment of actual campaigning approaches the level of concern trolling when the last two presidential elections have demonstrated the exact opposite situation.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 28, 2014

Radio Nowhere
Jan 8, 2010

N. Senada posted:

I'm watching that documentary Mitt right now. I'm 20 minutes in and it's pretty interesting but pretty bland so far. They've only depicted the rhetoric he uses, how his family feels about him running, how he's addressing being a flipper, but they don't talk about his actual talking points or what policies he would enact.

Maybe it'll get better as it goes on, but I'm pretty disappointed. It's just a humanizing portrait. To be fair, this is something he really needs. :mitt:

He still comes off as a piece of poo poo sometimes though.

E. Just got to the 47% remark. Let's see how they handle it!

They didn't talk about it at all.

Okay, 40 minutes left, and the best thing about the movie so far is that it justifies Ann Romney's owning the horses as treatment for MS.

The excuses for that debate flop is probably the highlight of this rather boring election documentary.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

lil mortimer posted:

I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not, but he did his typical set-up with his smug cohorts, who snorted and guffawed along with him at the ignorance of the masses who didn't know they were bedazzled by Satan.


...and now I'm picturing Ol' Scratch running around with a Bedazzler in hand sticking rhinestones on everything in sight.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Some thoughts on that Fox article.


This was offered as something impressive but this is an article about Fox news, who would blow through 14 segments about whatever bone they have to pick at the moment in an afternoon, even if it's not current news anywhere other than their network and the fever swamps of the RW blog collective.


[citation needed] - Particularly since a lot of the stories featuring it were at least as tongue in cheek as Kelly thought she was coming off as. I'm also not buying the idea that Fox News' annual war on Christmas is in anyway some kind of writ-large troll on the nation as opposed to a genuine boiling over of white christian's pathological need to be seen as scrappy underdogs despite having a monopoly on society.

His evidence is that the left painted itself as the "killjoy p.c. police" but there's no elaboration on what national majority was having a grand ol' time until someone informed them that people have had alternate ethnicity Santa's or why being on the side of reality and decency was actually the unpopular option there.


I also disagree that Fox News being the subject of stories by "the left" is, again, some elaborate troll game. A news organization that inserts itself into the news that often should be reported on (think of what would happen if the rest of the news media today pretended this was still the late 90's and Fox News was an honest to god news org) but it's more likely the need for content on the 24 hour news cycle that's causing this.


I have no doubt at all that Fox News is run by some very very saavy media people who have found a lucrative market in what they're serving and know exactly how to talk to their audience. I also have no doubt that the "left" in the media and the honest news org's are handicapped in the kind of fight Rich is talking about by things like journalistic standards and a sense of being above the fray. I just think he's reading too much into that fight and casting it as a bigger deal than it really is.



Edit: Of course it all comes to a head in the comparison of Ailes leaving Fox News being some kind of equivalent event of the RW losing Obama as a target of their undying hatred that's going to throw the left into some kind of confused tizzy. I'll eat my hat when that happens.

Trying to say that Democrats and liberals are the ones who are going to be hamstrung by an obsession with Fox to the detriment of actual campaigning approaches the level of concern trolling when the last two presidential elections have demonstrated the exact opposite situation.

Some of his points were stupid, but I thought that the general thrust of the article was solid. Fox is a soothing echo chamber for old, white men who feel frightened by their mortality and the feeling that the world is passing them by. Liberal groups should do what they can to encourage the groupthink and inflate that media bubble on the right while simultaneously increasing our hold on the growing Internet media.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

Swan Oat posted:

The Borowitz Report is up there with the Daily Currant in terms of "hey guys wouldn't it be funny if this happened" fake news, which isn't really satire.

I have a feeling these sites cynically bank on having people share their stories under the impression that said stories are real—based on my Facebook feed, anyway. That would at least explain why these "comedy" articles aren't funny.

SnakePlissken
Dec 31, 2009

by zen death robot

comes along bort posted:

...and now I'm picturing Ol' Scratch running around with a Bedazzler in hand sticking rhinestones on everything in sight.

It's a good thing I hadn't quite sipped from my coffee before reading that. Close call.


Zeroisanumber posted:

Some of his points were stupid, but I thought that the general thrust of the article was solid. Fox is a soothing echo chamber for old, white men who feel frightened by their mortality and the feeling that the world is passing them by. Liberal groups should do what they can to encourage the groupthink and inflate that media bubble on the right while simultaneously increasing our hold on the growing Internet media.

I'd like to agree with this but rural America still dotes on Fox and ESPN to the exclusion of other news sources, not just white oldsters.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

Spacedad posted:

The rest of the interview is mind-blowing and SCARY as gently caress, by the way. That 'Jesus Nuke' story is loving Dr. Strangelove level insanity right there... :stare:

Read away: http://www.truth-out.org/files/nuclear_ethics.pdf


Is this 1932?

My Q-Face fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jan 28, 2014

Tercio
Jan 30, 2003

Zeroisanumber posted:

Fox is a soothing echo chamber for old, white men who feel frightened by their mortality and the feeling that the world is passing them by.

For every "the Right is soon to die out because they're all old" post there is another "look at this stupid right wing sentiment my younger cousin/sibling/friend posted on Facebook" post not far behind.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
But that doesn't discount the point that the Fox News audience and programming is sharply old and white. There might be more assholes to replace them but they won't be watching cable news barring some major changes in the channel or the assholes.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Rush is calling the SOTU address 'The State of the Coup". Har-dee-harr.

Has this been posted yet? Bernie Sanders vs. Michelle Bachmann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYyU1r61FI

E: starts at 3:30

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 28, 2014

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

BiggerBoat posted:

Rush is calling the SOTU address 'The State of the Coup". Har-dee-harr.

Has this been posted yet? Bernie Sanders vs. Michelle Bachmann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYyU1r61FI

E: starts at 3:30

Patience of a saint. I would have just unplugged her lav and finished my point.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

BiggerBoat posted:

Rush is calling the SOTU address 'The State of the Coup". Har-dee-harr.

Has this been posted yet? Bernie Sanders vs. Michelle Bachmann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYyU1r61FI

E: starts at 3:30

I thought I've heard every right-wing talking point, but "President Obama's Economic War on Women" is a new one for me.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Michael Savage just advertised a gold scam where part of the script he was reading said the recession was caused by Islamist cyber attacks.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

BiggerBoat posted:

Has this been posted yet? Bernie Sanders vs. Michelle Bachmann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYyU1r61FI


Sigh...why do liberals (or socialists) always let conservatives make their points uninterrupted and then sit there meekly while said conservatives talk over/interrupt them?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

beatlegs posted:

Sigh...why do liberals (or socialists) always let conservatives make their points uninterrupted and then sit there meekly while said conservatives talk over/interrupt them?

Because giving conservatives enough rope to hang themselves with is a time-honored debating tradition.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Zeroisanumber posted:

Because giving conservatives enough rope to hang themselves with is a time-honored debating tradition.

You're giving the viewing audience way too much credit.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Gotta admit I'm gonna miss ol' crazy eyes a little when she's gone after this year.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

beatlegs posted:

Sigh...why do liberals (or socialists) always let conservatives make their points uninterrupted and then sit there meekly while said conservatives talk over/interrupt them?

Because they are adults who understand the concept of respect. Even blowhard rear end in a top hat liberals like Maher don't shout people down or try to talk over them.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
I don't know what Bernie could have done, Bachmann was going to talk over him regardless. Wolf should have cut her off more, but :wow:

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
Hasn't Bernie done this before with some other GOP hack, getting them to stop floundering around and say "Yes, I do in fact not support raising the minimum wage (or not having one at all)? I think it was someone from Heritage?

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

gently caress last night was the first time I realized that Mark Levin does his radio show from his basement, never takes callers, and "Mr. Producer" that he talks to all the time doesn't exist. It's just hours of him talking to himself.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

bobservo posted:

I have a feeling these sites cynically bank on having people share their stories under the impression that said stories are real—based on my Facebook feed, anyway. That would at least explain why these "comedy" articles aren't funny.

The Daily Currant, sure, but I get the impression Andy Borowitz is just an extremely unfunny person who thinks he's very funny, and is here to make you laugh.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

Swan Oat posted:

I get the impression Andy Borowitz is just an extremely unfunny person who thinks he's very funny, and is here to make you laugh.

I think that's true, but we should expect more from the creator of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Because they are adults who understand the concept of respect. Even blowhard rear end in a top hat liberals like Maher don't shout people down or try to talk over them.




I'm not really all that concerned with the opinion of anyone who's still giving Michelle Bachmann a chance to win them over in the year 2014. They're already flirting with being written off by earnestly watching a daytime Wolf Blitzer program. But...

Mr. Meph is correct, being "PC" is strategically and morally right. Fostering a bunch of rude, blowhard assholes who take cheap shots at anyone who doesn't meet their litmus test is how you end up with people like Michelle Bachmann with her hand on your parties wheel. It's how you end up thinking the solution to your problems is a lazy, cynical attempt to disenfranchise brown and young voters.

Being a decent person who treats others, including their opponents, with a baseline of respect is how you end up with the people who brought you OFA and the coming demographic winter.

They can keep Wolf Blitzer's daytime polit-o-brawl, I'll take the elections.

Edit: They can take the young person who trolls gays by buying chicken sandwiches, who knows that all polls they don't like are conspiracies and that the level of crowd excitement is a valid measure of the health of a campaign. I will take the devestatingly smart gay kid who figures out how easy it is to do an end-run around these idiots and bakes Democratic values into the country even harder than anything Reagan dreamed of.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 28, 2014

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Because they are adults who understand the concept of respect. Even blowhard rear end in a top hat liberals like Maher don't shout people down or try to talk over them.

Being an rear end in a top hat isn't necessary...just don't let your opponent walk all over you. When they interrupt you, interrupt them back and say "please let me finish my point" and finish your point! In that vid Bernie not only let her interrupt, he let her interruptions distract him from the points he was making. It's very important to make sure your argument comes across strong and clear - otherwise people will perceive you to be weak and disregard the substance of your argument.

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
Well, one person looks like a raving lunatic and is listened to by the same.
The other looks like a reasonable person.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Being forceful while being polite is a skill not a lot of people have (I'm in Seattle where our entire population just plain stopped trying), if I have to choose what Bernie put up right there or him trying to duel Bachmann on the streets of crazytown I'd rather he put on the brave face. It sucks for sure.

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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug
This was too hilarious to not post.

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