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Job Truniht
Nov 7, 2012

MY POSTS ARE REAL RETARDED, SIR


I'm thinking of just de-friending one of my relatives now that I found out he is a tea partier, but I think I'd like to confront him first.

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The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Did someone say... Moon God?

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



E: Beaten by Chick. I'm glad you posted the full version.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Bizarro Kanyon posted:

"Moon God"

I have heard this claim (Muslims worship a moon god) so many times from Christians. Does anyone know here it came from (using a lunar calendar or the use of a crescent moon as a symbol)?

It comes from crazy racists refusing to believe that Muslims are an Abrahamic religion.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

God, I love that comic so much. The Muslim is threatening the man's life and gloating about the coming worldwide caliphate, then the guy goes "My friend..." spouts some unsubstantiated bullshit and suddenly the Muslim is all "Oh three daughters of the moon god, you say, well gosh I guess I am going to hell, tell me about your Christ!"

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

VitalSigns posted:

God, I love that comic so much. The Muslim is threatening the man's life and gloating about the coming worldwide caliphate, then the guy goes "My friend..." spouts some unsubstantiated bullshit and suddenly the Muslim is all "Oh three daughters of the moon god, you say, well gosh I guess I am going to hell, tell me about your Christ!"
The first time I saw the "moon god?" thing I thought it was a hilarious photoshop.

The full thing was far, far greater than anything I could have imagined.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Also what is that about a figure of Allah sitting on a throne? I thought Islam didn't allow depictions of living things, Allah included?

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
The tract is claiming that Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, and is presenting the idol as proof of that. Paganism = idolatry, at least to devout Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Muslims destroyed all the idols they could find, but that one was spared because it was hidden until archaeologists found it.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


ArchangeI posted:

Also what is that about a figure of Allah sitting on a throne? I thought Islam didn't allow depictions of living things, Allah included?

Maybe a book called "Islamic Invasion" isn't the best source?


Edit: The best part of that comic is how the Christian guy doesn't exactly offer any "proof." He just quotes scripture and the Muslim guy converts. "Oh, YOUR holy book says that its right and my religion is wrong? I guess that must be so, why would it lie?"

muscles like this! fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Jan 30, 2014

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




ArchangeI posted:

Also what is that about a figure of Allah sitting on a throne? I thought Islam didn't allow depictions of living things, Allah included?

You're giving Chick far too much credit. His knowledge of Islam probably comes solely from a series of tracts put out by some batshit Independent Baptist press.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Someone should do an inversion of that explaining how the easter bunny represents pagan fertility rituals therefore no Jesus.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
Isn't Islam stemming from polytheism/paganism basically correct, as it is derived from faiths that can be traced back to polytheism?

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

EightBit posted:

Isn't Islam stemming from polytheism/paganism basically correct, as it is derived from faiths that can be traced back to polytheism?
Polytheistic religions like Christianity and Judaism, yes.

Job Truniht
Nov 7, 2012

MY POSTS ARE REAL RETARDED, SIR

Nevvy Z posted:

Someone should do an inversion of that explaining how the easter bunny represents pagan fertility rituals therefore no Jesus.

Don't forget that December 25th was not the birthday of Christ, it was based on an original Roman holiday worshipping Sol Invictus ( worship of a Syrian pagan god).

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

muscles like this? posted:

Maybe a book called "Islamic Invasion" isn't the best source?


Edit: The best part of that comic is how the Christian guy doesn't exactly offer any "proof." He just quotes scripture and the Muslim guy converts. "Oh, YOUR holy book says that its right and my religion is wrong? I guess that must be so, why would it lie?"
You're all wrong. The BEST part of all is how that guy is just carrying that photograph around to whip out to show muslims what's what.

"Okay, time to leave the house. Keys, check. Wallet, check. Phone, check. Photograph of moon god statue, check."

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

Polytheistic religions like Christianity and Judaism, yes.

Uh no, Christianity was the first religion, it says so right here in this collection of contradictory Bronze Age stories. The false gods came later when God got bored for a while and stopped showing up at brunch to tell people which religion was the right one.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jan 30, 2014

Dyz
Dec 10, 2010

radical meme posted:

Here you go. Forwarded by my crazy family.

:stonk: Holy loving balls...

What scares me is that whoever made this obviously has a little bit of knowledge about Islam, but not once do they mention that it worships the same god recognized by the Christians and the Jews. They don't mention that giving alms is one of the five pillars of Islam. Just... wow.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

Job Truniht posted:



I'm thinking of just de-friending one of my relatives now that I found out he is a tea partier, but I think I'd like to confront him first.
I like how the image makes it sound like guns are the ONLY thing they use to defend anything ever, as though non-lethal weapons, surveillance, and a zillion other things didn't enter into keeping the president alive.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


They also continue to willfully ignore what "Gun Free Zone" means. Its not supposed to stop criminals, its supposed to stop regular people from bringing guns into those areas to prevent accidental shootings.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

Dyz posted:

:stonk: Holy loving balls...

What scares me is that whoever made this obviously has a little bit of knowledge about Islam, but not once do they mention that it worships the same god recognized by the Christians and the Jews. They don't mention that giving alms is one of the five pillars of Islam. Just... wow.

They also ignore that one of the old testament verses say if you meet anyone who doesn't worship your god, kill them. If you find a town that doesn't worship your god, kill them all and burn it to the ground. If your child is rude to you, stone him. If your wife is not virgin on her wedding night, stone her.

They proclaim that the Old Testament doesn't matter, at the same time they hold up 'homosexuality is a sin'.

Oh, and the Old Testament does still apply.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Yeah but then God stopped by and told Peter to stop being such a square and eat some drat bacon, so it's a bit more complicated than that.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah but then God stopped by and told Peter to stop being such a square and eat some drat bacon, so it's a bit more complicated than that.

What irritates the absolute piss out of me, is that it says. Right there.

"Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven"

By that logic, Peter should be ignored because he's lying about what Jesus said and is going against the WORD OF loving GOD.

But instead they canonized Peter and basically worship him just as much as the loving son of christ.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah but then God stopped by and told Peter to stop being such a square and eat some drat bacon, so it's a bit more complicated than that.

Naw, that story is actually about how you should accept Gentiles. The "unclean" animals God invites Peter to eat are a metaphor for the "unclean" people he should care about.

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Pththya-lyi posted:

Naw, that story is actually about how you should accept Gentiles. The "unclean" animals God invites Peter to eat are a metaphor for the "unclean" people he should care about.

Man, I knew Jews ate Christian babies.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Pththya-lyi posted:

Naw, that story is actually about how you should accept Gentiles. The "unclean" animals God invites Peter to eat are a metaphor for the "unclean" people he should care about.

Why can't they be both?

Are you saying that Peter defied God and still didn't eat them? Or that after he did, God was like "Ha, psych! That was just a metaphor telling you to convert the Romans...I can't believe you actually ate that accursed flesh! Enjoy Hell!"

Sardine Wit
Sep 3, 2004

Job Truniht posted:



I'm thinking of just de-friending one of my relatives now that I found out he is a tea partier, but I think I'd like to confront him first.

We defend all those things with trained specialists using guns in a very limited and restrictive way so good to see he's down with that.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

VitalSigns posted:

Why can't they be both?

Are you saying that Peter defied God and still didn't eat them? Or that after he did, God was like "Ha, psych! That was just a metaphor telling you to convert the Romans...I can't believe you actually ate that accursed flesh! Enjoy Hell!"
:eng101: IIRC, the Bible doesn't actually talk about what Peter did or didn't eat after having the vision. It does talk about him going to the home of Cornelius, a righteous and God-fearing centurion who had a vision telling him to invite Peter over. Then Peter says:

Acts 10:28 posted:

“You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean."
That's anyone, not anything. You can read the story here.

MisterBadIdea
Oct 9, 2012

Anything?
We defend all those things with armed guards. I am glad to see he doesn't mind paying extra taxes to pay for security officers at loving elementary schools.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

MisterBadIdea posted:

We defend all those things with armed guards. I am glad to see he doesn't mind paying extra taxes to pay for security officers at loving elementary schools.

But god damned if he'll see a dime go for art teachers.

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

radical meme posted:

Here you go. Forwarded by my crazy family.

quote:

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive Out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, [...] Palestine -- Muslim 99%

This was my favorite part, and by favorite I mean ugghh.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

E-Tank posted:

If you have absolutely no choice but to beat the hell out of your child, you have failed as a parent and need to seek help from professionals.

Holy poo poo, I'm against spanking but equating occasional spankings with acting 'to beat the hell out of your child' makes you a disingenuous rear end.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

muscles like this? posted:

They also continue to willfully ignore what "Gun Free Zone" means. Its not supposed to stop criminals, its supposed to stop regular people from bringing guns into those areas to prevent accidental shootings.

But then only criminals will have guns in the gun free zone! :qq:

Alternatively: So you're saying it's better that we only have deliberate shootings? Huh????

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

"Moon God"

I have heard this claim (Muslims worship a moon god) so many times from Christians. Does anyone know here it came from (using a lunar calendar or the use of a crescent moon as a symbol)?
This is the same guy who believes that Catholics worship the Sun god Ba'al. People who are not Evangelical Baptists worshiping parts of the solar system without their knowledge is a big thing for Chick.

Re: The moon being everywhere in Islam:

quote:

The date of Easter is determined as the first Sunday after the paschal full moon, the 14th day of a lunar month, determined from tables.
Christianity worships the moon and also a table :supaburn:

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

muscles like this? posted:

They also continue to willfully ignore what "Gun Free Zone" means. Its not supposed to stop criminals, its supposed to stop regular people from bringing guns into those areas to prevent accidental shootings.

That's pretty much the exact reason why most filthy gunhavers don't like them. Putting up a pretty sign without enforcement or security doesn't actually make anyone safer, and if you don't enforce your "Gun Free Zone" anyone can carry a concealed weapon onto the premises anyway. This is why actual gun free zones like government buildings have armed guards (With GUNS :argh:) and metal detectors and controlled access points and probably swarms of FEMA drones or something.

Mostly the macro is (poorly) trying to make the point that the government relies on guns and a monopoly of force to maintain its own security and that it is therefore hypocritical for the government to restrict its citizens from carrying sidearms to protect themselves.

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice

"This is true because 100% of what McDonalds charges is to pay their lowest-level workers. Literally zero money is spent on packaging, rent, utilities, management pay, the raw materials for the food (beef, buns, potatoes, etc), or advertising."

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

EDIT: Nvm

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

Azipod posted:

That's pretty much the exact reason why most filthy gunhavers don't like them. Putting up a pretty sign without enforcement or security doesn't actually make anyone safer, and if you don't enforce your "Gun Free Zone" anyone can carry a concealed weapon onto the premises anyway. This is why actual gun free zones like government buildings have armed guards (With GUNS :argh:) and metal detectors and controlled access points and probably swarms of FEMA drones or something.

Mostly the macro is (poorly) trying to make the point that the government relies on guns and a monopoly of force to maintain its own security and that it is therefore hypocritical for the government to restrict its citizens from carrying sidearms to protect themselves.

The government having a monopoly on firearm use is no more hypocritical than having a monopoly on the power of eminent domain, to choose an arbitrary one of the enormous number of powers society delegates to the government without reserving for private individuals.

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

Mornacale posted:

The government having a monopoly on firearm use is no more hypocritical than having a monopoly on the power of eminent domain, to choose an arbitrary one of the enormous number of powers society delegates to the government without reserving for private individuals.

Uh, you're forgetting about the 2nd Amendment, which does in fact reserve the right to keep and bear arms to individuals for self defense and has been upheld in recent Supreme Court cases. Maybe instead of "government" I should have said "government officials"... you see those sort of macros often, criticizing say, Senator Feinstein for opposing concealed carry shall issue in California while she herself has a concealed weapons permit and teams of armed guards. Or a police chief saying that AR-15s are "Weapons of war that have no place on our streets" while buying piles of them for his department. Its seen as elitism by a lot of gun owners, an institutional insistence that only "The right people" should have guns and all you filthy commoner peasants can get hosed when you need to defend yourself.

I'm just trying to fill in some background knowledge here, because a lot of these lovely ARE GUNS memes reference insider knowledge and esoteric gun culture stuff that isn't obvious to people that aren't involved in it. Which is a pretty big part of why :siren: GUN CONTROL :siren: debates are so lovely.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!

Azipod posted:

I'm just trying to fill in some background knowledge here, because a lot of these lovely ARE GUNS memes reference insider knowledge and esoteric gun culture stuff that isn't obvious to people that aren't involved in it. Which is a pretty big part of why :siren: GUN CONTROL :siren: debates are so lovely.

Maybe we shouldn't have one here in this thread then. And I don't think recent 2nd Amendment Supreme Court jurisprudence is particularly obscure- or uncontroversial.

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

My brother posted this article on Facebook, I'm sure this has been posted before but I don't specifically recall.

I've bolded the parts that I think are particularly dumb.

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/sthompson/130621

quote:

The inherent racism of liberalism
By Sylvia Thompson

Congressman Elbert Guillory has eloquently told the America people why he is leaving the Democratic Party. As many now know, Elbert Guillory is a black politician from Louisiana, and I give kudos, cheers, and hurrahs to him. I am always heartened by a black person awakening to the reality that the Democratic Party stands for liberalism, and liberalism at its core, is racist.

Progressivism, liberalism, socialism, communism have one thing in common, as I interpret them. They all require that some designated human or group of humans maintains power over other humans. To maintain power (and often wealth), the drivers of these ideologies must keep the masses that they manipulate under control. There must be a permanent underclass of people enabling the wealth and power of those who would be their "saviors." Those who would provide for the needs that a balanced human being should provide for himself.

This situation is no different in my view from the slavery that my ancestors (and many other groups throughout human history) experienced. It can even be argued that it is worse. Southern slave owners shackled bodies; these ideologies shackle the soul.

What touches me deeply, as a black person, is the realization that blacks in America are perfect fodder for manipulation by those who adhere to liberalism. Several centuries of conditioning to think that one must be cared for to survive makes for an easy target. Consequently, liberal Democrats (black and white) have used blacks perniciously.

As an adult, I have been able to assess my experience in America with a degree of maturity. I have experienced helpful revelations and come to a few conclusions, all of which position me diametrically opposed to any ideology that diminishes the humanity in human beings.

When I was growing up in Texas under legal segregation, my environment included all the levels of the black experience. In addition to the profane, the assorted criminal types, were the professionals. My doctor; the hospital where my mother delivered my younger siblings; my dentist (a high-school friend of my mother); my high-school principal, administrators, and teachers; and pretty much everything else was black and black owned. My parents were high-school educated and not of the same economic status as the professional blacks around us, but because those professionals were there, as role models for what could be, many of my generation and I were not likely to consider ourselves victims. And liberalism thrives on victims.

In the past several decades, black communities have become laboratories for liberal Democrat experiments in churning out victims. First they remove all God-given moral strictures by infiltrating the once-stalwart black church and turning the heads of pastors, then they throw in a convenient Planned Parenthood abortion facility to take care of the consequences of the rampant immoral behavior. They then install liberal blacks in political leadership of the communities to keep the masses in check. The resulting chaos and suffering are rife throughout Democrat-controlled areas in this nation. And blacks suffer the most, given our percentage of the population.

What has become of blacks in America under the thumb of liberalism is a travesty beyond calculation. Because unlike the slave masters of centuries ago, who shackled bodies that could thrive after the shackles were removed, liberalism shackles the mind and the soul, which is a lot more difficult to reclaim. And for that reason, I loathe liberalism and all of its companion ideologies. I am also averse to acceptance of anything that adherents to liberalism may have to offer. That includes Barack Obama.



1. I can't think of a god drat ideology that anyone is calling for in America, where one designated group of people does not hold power over another. Democracy, where people are elected to represent others, still hold power over them.

2. It's hosed up to say that the other ideology says blacks need to be cared for, while trying to make the point that blacks are a perfect target for manipulation. Oh, please! Care for those poor blacks by pulling the wool from their eyes so that they know they're being manipulated by others!

3. So liberalism is racist because it is agnostic? Give me a loving break.

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