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Yeah. Radiation goes deep and knocks out small but important things. I guess it's theoretically possible to imagine something radioactive enough to kill in the very short-term, minutes or tens of seconds, but like Bad Munki says, anything putting out that much radiation would almost certainly be hot enough in the traditional sense to fry you first.
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Say Nothing posted:I want one. The hell is that???
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Derek of the Andes posted:The hell is that??? God damnit man, haven't you ever seen a woman.
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Derek of the Andes posted:The hell is that??? It looks like a pretty big bobcat to me. I could be wrong though.
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Say Nothing posted:I want one. I'm the  And I would guess it's a lynx and not a bobcat. They're close relatives but lynxes have really big paws and tufts on their ears.
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A Canada Lynx at a rehab center in Colorado.
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joat mon posted:A Canada Lynx at a rehab center in Colorado. Drug use isn't "bad-rear end".
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Skrill.exe posted:Drug use isn't "bad-rear end". Yeah, but there's a certain courage in asking for help? 
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Strudel Man posted:Yeah. Radiation goes deep and knocks out small but important things. I guess it's theoretically possible to imagine something radioactive enough to kill in the very short-term, minutes or tens of seconds, but like Bad Munki says, anything putting out that much radiation would almost certainly be hot enough in the traditional sense to fry you first. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1#Incident_and_response posted:With one entry per person and a 1 minute limit, a team of 5 men with stretchers recovered the operator who was still breathing; he did not regain consciousness and died of his head injury at about 11 p.m. Even stripped, his body was so contaminated that it was emitting about 500 R/hr. SL-1 is probably the largest non-nuclear explosion radiation dose anyone has ever received, and the operator pulled alive from the reactor still died from the physical trauma rather than the radiation exposure. Edit: Since this is the bad-rear end thread, also from the above wiki link: quote:Post-accident analysis concluded that the final control method (i.e., dissipation of the prompt critical state) occurred by means of catastrophic core disassembly: destructive melting, vaporization, and consequent conventional explosive expansion of the parts of the reactor core where the greatest amount of heat was being produced most quickly. It was estimated that this core heating and vaporization process happened in about 7.5 milliseconds, before enough steam had been formed to shut down the reaction, beating the steam shutdown by a few milliseconds. A key statistic makes it clear why the core literally blew apart: the reactor designed for a 3 MW power output operated momentarily at a peak of nearly 20 GW, a power density over 6,000 times higher than its safe operating limit. CommanderApaul has a new favorite as of 04:59 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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joat mon posted:About 50 Grays, or about 5 times Louis Slotkin's exposure (died after The scientists who were working with this demon core were pretty badass. Just winging it. Also naming a piece of plutonium a demon core is quite badass.
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Not trying to be pedantic, but I kinda took the "dead instantly" bit from the photo as "Oh, gently caress, you are gonna die from radiation poisoning and there is nothing you can do. No hope left." Sorta a sciencey version of that fist of the north star "You are already dead" bit. Probably with less cranial explosions though. I'll admit even with that, it's still wrong since there's about a 5 min window of "not hosed" to "yep, hosed." Also... KITTY!!!! 
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Not trying to be pedantic, but I kinda took the "dead instantly" bit from the photo as "Oh, gently caress, you are gonna die from radiation poisoning and there is nothing you can do. No hope left." Yeah that's how Medusa worked IIRC. You accidentally made eye contact with her while you were walking to the kebab joint and over a month you just slowly turned to stone from the toes up.
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I thought it was a euphemism for a boner.
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Strudel Man posted:Yeah. Radiation goes deep and knocks out small but important things. I guess it's theoretically possible to imagine something radioactive enough to kill in the very short-term, minutes or tens of seconds, but like Bad Munki says, anything putting out that much radiation would almost certainly be hot enough in the traditional sense to fry you first. Depends on the sort of radiation. Microwaves could kill you PDQ.
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I seem to recall a story about how when radar was first invented, the operators out in the field would get cold and so they'd go stand in front of the antenna for a little bit to warm up.
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I recall a (possibly apocryphal) story about why you NEVER loving ignore the signs people leave on gear: dude was repairing a microwave-based broadcast antenna, turned it off, completely disconnected it from the power, left several signs indicating that repairs were in progress and it should loving stay off. Someone switches it on. Dude comes down, kicks the living poo poo out of the guy who switched it on, then expires within a day or two. That's a relatively low-power antenna. There's a reason they build phone masts on the tops of really tall structures...
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thespaceinvader posted:I recall a (possibly apocryphal) story about why you NEVER loving ignore the signs people leave on gear: dude was repairing a microwave-based broadcast antenna, turned it off, completely disconnected it from the power, left several signs indicating that repairs were in progress and it should loving stay off. Someone switches it on. Dude comes down, kicks the living poo poo out of the guy who switched it on, then expires within a day or two. That's a relatively low-power antenna. His own fault. Lock out/tag out is a two step process, not just posting signs. 
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lenoon posted:Wouldn't a sufficient amount of radiation kill you instantly? How much of a dose would be required? Theoretically, yes, but unless you find a way to teleport yourself into an actual ongoing nuclear reaction your death won't be instantaneous. Quick, but not instant. It's been a few years since I worked on a reactor so I'm too rusty to start breaking out equations and poo poo, but even if you were in the reactor compartment of an operating nuclear submarine, you still wouldn't die instantly (albeit very, very quickly). Source: I worked on an actual nuclear submarine.
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lenoon posted:Wouldn't a sufficient amount of radiation kill you instantly? How much of a dose would be required? Getting shot in the head with an industrial cutting laser would probably do it. For ionizing radiation it's probably a bit different but if you stuck your head in an high-energy beam line you might die immediately.
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Dusseldorf posted:Getting shot in the head with an industrial cutting laser would probably do it. For ionizing radiation it's probably a bit different but if you stuck your head in an high-energy beam line you might die immediately. Not always.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski
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God drat is it hard to get epilepsy medication in Russia.
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These are amazing. This might as well be what our money should look like with how fast the value of it is going down.
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Bad Munki posted:I seem to recall a story about how when radar was first invented, the operators out in the field would get cold and so they'd go stand in front of the antenna for a little bit to warm up. The myth has always been that the microwave was discovered by RADAR researchers who stood too close the transmitter and discovered that the chocolate bar in their pocket had melted.
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Devout Christian posted:This might as well be what our money should look like with how fast the value of it is going down. People would take us seriously if we started putting "Death" on our currency. 
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Devout Christian posted:These are amazing. Inflation is actually pretty low now. 
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Son of a bitch is still alive.  I wonder if they ever gave in on the disability.
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I'm sure this guy will win pretty much every scar/war wound boast: "I got stabbed in the chest" "I took a bullet to the head" "...I took a loving particle beam to the face"
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Thanks for the discussion on the effects of radiation there! Really answered my question, awesome.
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Someone already mentioned the Demon Core in passing, but I think that it and the researchers of the Manhattan Project deserve a link of their own in this thread:quote:On May 21, 1946, physicist Louis Slotin and seven other Los Alamos personnel were in a Los Alamos laboratory conducting an experiment to verify the exact point at which a subcritical mass (core) of fissile material could be made critical by the positioning of neutron reflectors. The test was known as "tickling the dragon's tail" for its extreme risk.It required the operator to place two half-spheres of beryllium (a neutron reflector) around the core to be tested and manually lower the top reflector over the core via a thumb hole on the top. As the reflectors were manually moved closer and farther away from each other, scintillation counters measured the relative activity from the core. Allowing them to close completely could result in the instantaneous formation of a critical mass and a lethal power excursion. Under Slotin's unapproved protocol, the only thing preventing this was the blade of a standard flathead screwdriver, manipulated by the scientist's other hand. Slotin, who was given to bravado, became the local expert, performing the test almost a dozen separate times, often in his trademark bluejeans and cowboy boots, in front of a roomful of observers. Enrico Fermi reportedly told Slotin and others they would be "dead within a year" if they continued performing it. Old school science was crazy hardcore.
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lenoon posted:Thanks for the discussion on the effects of radiation there! Really answered my question, awesome. It's not really our job to google for you and apparently nobody in the thread is a nuclear physicist. (edit) If you're being sincere sorry I'm a douchebag but that came across snarky to me. 13Pandora13 has a new favorite as of 02:10 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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I think he was being sincere. I know I read a ton of stuff on reactors that were linked to on Wikipedia from here.
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Yeah, I thought he was sincere too. And if he wasn't, I am: that was an interesting discussion. Also, 13Pandora13 posted:and apparently nobody in the thread is a nuclear physicist.
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Bad Munki posted:Yeah, I thought he was sincere too. And if he wasn't, I am: that was an interesting discussion. I wouldn't be surprised if an A/T thread would pop up: Ask me about dying from a lethal dose of radiation. You've got two days and I have nothing better to do than answer your questions!
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thespaceinvader posted:Depends on the sort of radiation. Microwaves could kill you PDQ.
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Yeah, whipping unarmed peasant conscripts with a chain is so badass.
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Derek of the Andes posted:The hell is that??? Doritos cheese flavored corn chips.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Yeah, whipping unarmed peasant conscripts with a chain is so badass. No for you see, it is the police, the ultimate evil in this world.
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Babe Magnet posted:No for you see, it is the police, the ultimate evil in this world. While the officers in those pictures were probably not involved in the worst of it, I can understand his frustration and desire to lash out. This guy is the leader of the Automaidan mobile protest caravan in Ukraine, and he is a major badass for standing up to a dictatorship-in-the-making.  He was kidnapped, beaten and mutilated for eight days after being kidnapped during a protest, and witnesses claim he was taken by uniformed individuals. The police refused to help his family when he stopped returning calls. Another protester, Yuri Verbytsky from the EuroMaidan protests, was kidnapped from a hospital on the January 21st and was found dead in a forest the day after. Police were similarly unhelpful. http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/automaidan-leader-bulatov-found-alive-after-eight-days-of-disappearance-335912.html poo poo is seriously hosed up in Ukraine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-protest_laws_in_Ukraine KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 08:09 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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