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Studio posted:The real issue with The Castle Doctrine is that it's not very fun. I should rent out my skills as a prophet because as soon as I heard the guys talking about it on the podcast I correctly guessed that it would devolve into people making traps that are completely impossible to figure out beyond guessing the right path.
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Fallom posted:I should rent out my skills as a prophet because as soon as I heard the guys talking about it on the podcast I correctly guessed that it would devolve into people making traps that are completely impossible to figure out beyond guessing the right path. This is what the tools are supposed to be for, to break the 'puzzle' such that you can work through it logically. Unfortunately you lose all your tools even if you don't use them and you've got no idea what tools you want before you enter the house.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:05
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The problem with tools is that eventually people learn to work around spending a few thousand on tools. For example saws are garbage if you just add a layer to your walls. There are some situations where you'd want like 10 dog foods, and other times where you just need a pistol round. The tools don't really make the game more interesting besides punishing bad designs.
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Studio posted:The problem with tools is that eventually people learn to work around spending a few thousand on tools. For example saws are garbage if you just add a layer to your walls. There are some situations where you'd want like 10 dog foods, and other times where you just need a pistol round. The tools don't really make the game more interesting besides punishing bad designs. 
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Jan 31, 2014 06:22
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Fallom posted:I should rent out my skills as a prophet because as soon as I heard the guys talking about it on the podcast I correctly guessed that it would devolve into people making traps that are completely impossible to figure out beyond guessing the right path. It looks about as much fun as playing as a low level creature on stage 15 of a tower defense game.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:24
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Arms_Akimbo posted:It looks about as much fun as playing as a low level creature on stage 15 of a tower defense game. That is an oddly specific example, hah. But yeah, I get what you mean. The puzzle design aspect of it, when left to people who don't design proper puzzles, just results in a buttload of boring combination locks or a horde of dogs. Just butting your head onto walls trying to get through. e: I really like Patrick's new Spelunky avatar, but I feel that to complete the effect Chris Remo needs one too now. Make it a real competition.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:27
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Another Person posted:... but in the interview he literally states he does not own a gun, does not want one, and has only touched one once. He doesn't want to shoot anything. By providing such a graphic, almost Hotline Miami level, depiction of violence and paranoia, he is intentionally making you question and think about it. Letting you, the player and builder, get killed by your own traps is alone providing an idea of how stupid these defence worries are. I'm just going to give up, because nobody is going to look at the drat interview to actually understand the point the dev is making. I'm just going to say that it is anti-security. He addresses it around here from this point through the next couple minutes, if you really want to jump to the bit I am talking about. He is taking a negative stance, the point of view he takes is that these concerns are entirely trumped up. The problem with this, and a problem with a lot of games with this kind of message is you're really actually validated in being a crazy violence/security nut in this game. Every other person is trying to get your money, and they will all gladly kill your wife to loot her corpse if given the opportunity. You have to defend your house or else you'll get hosed by everyone else. People WILL invade. If he is trying say it's wrong he shouldn't have tried to make the point in a game where every crazy step you take is necessary. EDIT: Sorry for replying after you dropped this, didn't notice that before replying. I will say though this is less about the guy and more about the wider validity of portraying violence as bad in a game that mechanically encourages violence. Futuresight fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Jan 31, 2014 06:35
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Oh man, I just realized that Jeff pronounces NES like N-E-S but SNES like Sness. Make up your mind, Jeff! 
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Jan 31, 2014 06:38
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404notfound posted:Oh man, I just realized that Jeff pronounces NES like N-E-S but SNES like Sness. Make up your mind, Jeff! Those are both the correct pronunciations so I'm not sure what the problem is.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:39
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The Xbox1 - PS3 discount thing is curiously reminiscent of the early marketing of the Commodore 64, where you'd get a $100 trade-in for any other computer. Of course that worked out pretty well for Commodore, with the C64 being the best-selling home computer ever and all. (You also got places that would sell you a new $70 ZX81 along with the C64 then immediately take it back for the $100 trade-in value.)
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Jan 31, 2014 06:41
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I wonder what Microsoft would do with any potential donated PS3s they got. Destroying them is just wasteful. e; it's cool higsian, I pm'd my response to you, in agreement in some way Another Person fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Jan 31, 2014 06:43
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uPen posted:This is what the tools are supposed to be for, to break the 'puzzle' such that you can work through it logically. Unfortunately you lose all your tools even if you don't use them and you've got no idea what tools you want before you enter the house. There's no figuring out the logic to a madman's maze when you can barely see a few tiles at once, to the point where it's just as impossible to figure out where you should use your tool as it is to figure out which path you should go down.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:58
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Higsian posted:The problem with this, and a problem with a lot of games with this kind of message is you're really actually validated in being a crazy violence/security nut in this game. Every other person is trying to get your money, and they will all gladly kill your wife to loot her corpse if given the opportunity. You have to defend your house or else you'll get hosed by everyone else. People WILL invade. If he is trying say it's wrong he shouldn't have tried to make the point in a game where every crazy step you take is necessary.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:59
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What happened with Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
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Jan 31, 2014 07:12
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Yeah, I'm kind of interested now. I've never really seen it before because I never watched loads of Adult Swim stuff outside of Venture Bros.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:14
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wa27 posted:Drew secretly tells the best jokes on the podcast. "I'm dressed as a speedbump!" still cracks me up everytime I think of it.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:15
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Gordy posted:What happened with Aqua Teen Hunger Force? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare People thought some lite brite signs of the mooninites were bombs (????) and they were blown up by the cops.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:42
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Samopsa posted:That's definitely his angle, the name alone implies that. IS IT RIGHT TO KILL AN INVADER TO PROTECT YOUR MONEY (and your wife and kids)?! YOU ARE THE MAN OF THE HOUSE IN A DOG EAT DOG WORLD Ok so here's the story about Jason Rohrer. He's a rich kid and so is his wife, so they decided to embark on some retarded voluntary poverty thing and force their kids to be poor with them. They soon learned that poverty actually leads to a pretty lovely life but not before Jason's wife was bit by a dog in the ghetto, which inspired him to create castle doctrine. Obviously after that they decided to draw on more of their trust funds and move to a nicer neighborhood.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:45
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DannyHibiki posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare Wow, no idea how I didn't hear about this. Weird.
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Another Person posted:Wow, no idea how I didn't hear about this. Weird. It was a pretty funny thing when it happened 
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Jan 31, 2014 08:07
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Looks it. Even though it was probably well meaning when they sent out the bomb squads to sort them out, imagine being the shot caller behind it and the ridicule they faced for it, hahah. At least it is probably not as bad as being the guy who was the shot caller for space pizza.
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Al! posted:Ok so here's the story about Jason Rohrer. He's a rich kid and so is his wife, so they decided to embark on some retarded voluntary poverty thing and force their kids to be poor with them. They soon learned that poverty actually leads to a pretty lovely life but not before Jason's wife was bit by a dog in the ghetto, which inspired him to create castle doctrine. Obviously after that they decided to draw on more of their trust funds and move to a nicer neighborhood. No you see he's a super genius because he made a retro side scroller that showed how your life is meaningless because you will never accomplish anything that makes a difference and the only thing relationships do is block you from going places. 
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randombattle posted:No it isn't. It is not relevant because no one designs their whole house to be a death trap that they have to run first. It's not applicable in anyway because you are not defending your house. It's like looking at Pokemon as a guide for pet care. It'd make a great gameshow, though.
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Fobwashed I think is the guy who made the Patrick Spelunky sprites, and he's also a master of making gifs on the spot for key moments. If you don't have him followed, he's one of the folks who are worth following for that. http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/fobwashed/images/
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This guy could sell a million more copies of his 'vision' if he stripped out the blood, and titled it "Home Alone". Do you know how many people who don't play games, but cherish that movie, would purchase and play it?
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God damnit brad, how do you ask if anyone knows Octodad's secret right after Jeff and Vinny discuss it with the villain character right on screen shouting about it!
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Jan 31, 2014 18:21
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Carecat posted:God damnit brad, how do you ask if anyone knows Octodad's secret right after Jeff and Vinny discuss it with the villain character right on screen shouting about it! Man's gotta sleep. Hater
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Carecat posted:God damnit brad, how do you ask if anyone knows Octodad's secret right after Jeff and Vinny discuss it with the villain character right on screen shouting about it! There's some times I wonder if Brad is... OK. That was one of those times. I mean it was right there.
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uPen posted:Those are both the correct pronunciations so I'm not sure what the problem is. Correct but gently caress anyone who pronounces the NES as the "Ness." It's just not right. 
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Jan 31, 2014 19:01
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Yodzilla posted:Correct but gently caress anyone who pronounces the NES as the "Ness." "Nez"
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Jan 31, 2014 19:11
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Yodzilla posted:Correct but gently caress anyone who pronounces the NES as the "Ness." And I still hate the way Vinny says "forward". ("foh-wurd")
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Yodzilla posted:Correct but gently caress anyone who pronounces the NES as the "Ness." Ness Super Ness 
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Grondoth posted:There's some times I wonder if Brad is... OK.
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Jan 31, 2014 19:38
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Plus he literally just said he wasn't listening to the dialogue
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Jan 31, 2014 19:41
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Alouicious posted:Plus he literally just said he wasn't listening to the dialogue He wasn't listening to the dialogue, or the 2 minute long conversation Jeff and Vinny were having about the question he asked right before he asked it.
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TheJoker138 posted:He wasn't listening to the dialogue, or the 2 minute long conversation Jeff and Vinny were having about the question he asked right before he asked it. Come on, man! It's on honest mistake! One that happens in like....over half the quicklooks starring Brad.
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The funniest part about Patrick's talk about how slow the trickle of Virtual Console games on the WiiU is when he mentions he's just going to buy Mario Kart over the weekend because it's easier. Super Mario Kart isn't even out on the WiiU VC yet.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Come on, man! It's on honest mistake! One that happens in like....over half the quicklooks starring Brad. I'm not really annoyed by it. I find it pretty funny that he seems to have the worst case of ADD I've ever seen. Dude just can't pay attention to anything for longer than a couple of minutes at a time.
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Jan 31, 2014 20:04
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Its kind of weird that they all got together for that Blackguard QL and then proceed to show two battles and that's about it.
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Something amazing happened on the dota 2 stream.
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