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Feb 1, 2014 06:34
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i mean if you could convince web "developers" to use a better language they'd all be on c#
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Feb 1, 2014 06:35
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i'd really like to learn c# it's too bad it's on windows
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Feb 1, 2014 06:41
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i'd really like to learn c# it's too bad it's on windows do you know java?
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Feb 2, 2014 00:48
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i'd really like to learn c# it's too bad it's on windows
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Feb 2, 2014 00:57
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coffeetable posted:if you're really that prissy about what OS you use, set up a windows VM and stick your code in a folder shared with the linux host. well i'd imagine c# isn't as exciting without all of the associated tools. anyhow can you even do useful things with it without the .net?? also it's not that i mind using windows, it's that i dont want to program for windows DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 2, 2014 |
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Feb 2, 2014 01:14
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you can be a hipster and use clojure
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Feb 2, 2014 01:22
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i'd really like to learn c# it's too bad it's on windows learn java 8 or scala
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Feb 2, 2014 01:51
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why is js still a thing why are there no alternatives why does silverlight require a bad plugin and load really slowly
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Feb 2, 2014 04:56
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getting rid of js would be like trying to get rid of html
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Feb 2, 2014 05:00
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unless google and firefox simultaneously decide js needs to go away (and convince apple to come along for the ride0, it's not going away. and surprise, two companies whose software relies heavily upon js are probably not going to decide to get rid of it
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Feb 2, 2014 05:01
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:learn java 8 or scala java 8 is the better tool imo but scala's alright. mono is a steaming turd unfortunately
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Feb 2, 2014 05:31
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the problem isn't that js is inherently bad (it's as bad as any other *-lang), it's that people try to use it for everything even when something else would be more appropriate
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Feb 2, 2014 05:50
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using it for anything other than asynchronous Web stuff is crazy
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Feb 2, 2014 08:27
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you mean using it for simple dom element manipulation but whatever, people can have fun with their web apps. Content output and consumer adoption trumps CS sperging
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Feb 2, 2014 09:14
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it's not cs sperging it's just really hard to program in because it has very few language features that make programming easy
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Feb 2, 2014 09:39
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what if the web had a vm and you can just target that wouldnt that be neat and probably but not certainly safer?
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Feb 2, 2014 11:15
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:what if the web had a vm and you can just target that i'm not 100% sure but isn't chrome trying to do this with nacl or whatever? i think it's a good idea. i don't really see how it's any less safe than js is right now assuming everything is sandboxed
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Feb 2, 2014 15:22
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Zaxxon posted:which micro and what is the bug? atxmega 8e5. if you enable any wgm from tcc5 it takes over literally every pin on the port. this is a problem because i'm also usign the spi on that port. welp also atmel came back to us and said "oh no there's actuall a bug in our revc design that makes it unmanufacturable so we're not releasing a chip rev for the foreseeable future" suck my dick
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Feb 2, 2014 16:01
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Phobeste posted:atxmega 8e5. if you enable any wgm from tcc5 it takes over figuratively every pin on the port. this is a problem because i'm also usign the spi on that port. welp oh nice gonna use that same family in the near future at work hope to discover other unpublished errata
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Feb 2, 2014 16:28
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I know nothing about web programming, but that d3 thing seems incredibly cool. I could play with this for hours. http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/1345853
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Feb 2, 2014 16:51
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d3 allows you to take data, modify your DOM/draw SVG based on that data, and write pretty transitions based on that data being modified. combined with backbone or similar it becomes crazy ridiculously easy + powerful to do cool visualizations. at least once you spend a year banging your head against the learning curve. this is a good intro to it. theres like 200 pages building up to a single bar chart to get an idea of what the gently caress you're in for. http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920026938.do
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Feb 2, 2014 16:56
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Yeah, it seems that the documentation is a bit lacking, but that also may be that I have no clue what I am doing with it. I was pretty proud that I was able to change the squares in the thing I posted above into circles, hah.
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Feb 2, 2014 17:18
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Bloody posted:why is js still a thing silverlight has the same problem as java. it was fairly obviously designed to be part of the browser, not a plugin, and constraining it to a plugin model makes it useless go try the sun hotjava demo sometime, that poo poo owned so hard
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Feb 2, 2014 18:35
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:java 8 is the better tool imo but scala's alright. mono is a steaming turd unfortunately scala is a really neat language held back by a really terrible community sbt is the worst fuckin thing. sbt is so bad that i would never have learned scala at all if i hadn't been working in a mandatory-maven shop honestly at this point i tend to prefer to use java libraries in scala to actual scala-native libs, because at least the java libraries won't be riddled with nonsense operators or incomprehensible documentation.
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Feb 2, 2014 18:36
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:honestly at this point i tend to prefer to use java libraries in scala to actual scala-native libs, because at least the java libraries won't be riddled with nonsense operators or incomprehensible documentation. programming is math, so let's make our programs as easy to read as the average paper in advanced math! 
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Feb 2, 2014 18:51
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
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Feb 2, 2014 19:46
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:silverlight has the same problem as java. it was fairly obviously designed to be part of the browser, not a plugin, and constraining it to a plugin model makes it useless ya i guess my question is why isnt there any browser that has them just baked in like why doesnt ie ship with like inline silverlight support or w/e where its completely seamless and makes every other browser look like dogshit
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Feb 2, 2014 20:32
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Bloody posted:ya i guess my question is why isnt there any browser that has them just baked in like why doesnt ie ship with like inline silverlight support or w/e where its completely seamless and makes every other browser look like dogshit amazing plan except nothing uses silverlight...
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Feb 2, 2014 20:35
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power botton posted:amazing plan except nothing uses silverlight... you forgot about netflix, dawg
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Feb 2, 2014 20:36
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Bloody posted:ya i guess my question is why isnt there any browser that has them just baked in like why doesnt ie ship with like inline silverlight support or w/e where its completely seamless and makes every other browser look like dogshit an external activex control is how microsoft does inline whatever support reminder that all of ie's scripting engines used to be external COM objects, and javascript wasn't integrated into IE proper until a couple years ago.
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Feb 2, 2014 20:38
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power botton posted:amazing plan except nothing uses silverlight... if you build it they will come
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Feb 2, 2014 21:02
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by that i mean microsoft should make porn sites in silverlight
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Feb 2, 2014 21:02
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the scanner was invented to scan porn (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna) the internet was invented to share it
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Feb 2, 2014 21:04
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Bloody posted:ya i guess my question is why isnt there any browser that has them just baked in like why doesnt ie ship with like inline silverlight support or w/e where its completely seamless and makes every other browser look like dogshit because netscape and microsoft took turns loving us in the rear end. a few people experimented with better browser platforms but since they didn't ship by default with windows (ie) or own "the web" as an idea in consumers (netscape) it didn't matter
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Feb 2, 2014 21:36
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pseudorandom name posted:an external activex control is how microsoft does inline whatever support the only thing worse than js+dom is trying to do the same thing with ms vbscript in a browser
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Feb 2, 2014 21:37
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hi so im currently fixing some loving horrible FOSS python abomination with 1000 line classes everywhere and making it not retarded to use. its a wxwidgets thing that does a bunch of dumb graph poo poo on top of a mathematical modelling module i have got rid of all the loving awful UI code and managed to run the mathematical modelling module itself properly (unit testing essentially i guess) anyway my brief is to stick a shitton of data in the model and run it a lot and see what comes out. i've written all that code and it works great doing the thing and logging the values, except the loving piece of poo poo model doesn't return anything. it just buggers off in a new thread, and the original flow of execution terminates (giving a "pause" in the windows shell)  if u run it from the command line it just terminates on the 3rd line before the break statement (as obvs stdout is gone or whatever) there's also no threading code between that last print (Calculating Start FOM) and when it terminates. so idkwtf. i've stuck in a couple of return statements, tried doing a "with mydumbfunction():" block, tried some threading.rlocking poo poo but at this point i really can't be arsed to learn about why plangs being lovely is causing me problems especially in horrible 1000 classes written by someone with no idea about OO
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Feb 2, 2014 23:17
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shaggar was right using visual studio + pythontools i.e. proper tools that aren't FOSS or linux CLI garbage makes this 1000 times easier tho. i dont totally want to kill myself atm which is definitely an upside.
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Feb 2, 2014 23:23
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take the next step and switch to c# and watch the remaining problems disappear.
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Feb 2, 2014 23:27
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yes obviously shaggar if i wasn't fixing some idiot scientist's lovely python code i would do it all in C# like a sane person but unfortunately i have to deal with this POS oh and have it done in 2 weeks lmao
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Feb 2, 2014 23:33
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