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I preferred Ghost Rider's complaint that he's not Daredevil. Which is even funnier if you consider that Daredevil also has a villain by the name of Stunt-Master who is just as Evel Knievel as Ghost Rider.
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Actually, you know what, never mind. I'm gonna get Thunderbolts #21 and find out myself.
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Jan 31, 2014 04:31
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What's the policy on issue previews? Because the latest batch for Ms. Marvel has an... interesting development.
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Gavok posted:Thunderbolts #21. Where the man with a brain-eating alien for pants and a possessed biker with a flaming skull head are the most down-to-earth guys on the team. Plus we discover Deadpool's hidden superpower. I can't be the only one who expected Deadpool to make some sort of One More Day joke there, can I?
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Ensign_Ricky posted:I can't be the only one who expected Deadpool to make some sort of One More Day joke there, can I? I wad hoping that he made a Star Wars joke at the Leader's expense.
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Jan 31, 2014 05:22
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Rhyno posted:I think I enjoyed that single "I'm a notary" panel more than every panel of T-bolts to date. I'd probably laugh harder if I didn't hear it in William Murderface's voice unfortunately.
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404GoonNotFound posted:What's the policy on issue previews? Because the latest batch for Ms. Marvel has an... interesting development. Post away.
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Jan 31, 2014 13:21
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Deadpool's "I'm a notary" joke is lifted wholesale from an episode of Metalocalypse. Even the premise is basically identical.
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Jan 31, 2014 14:01
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Lobok posted:I preferred Ghost Rider's complaint that he's not Daredevil. Which is even funnier if you consider that Daredevil also has a villain by the name of Stunt-Master who is just as Evel Knievel as Ghost Rider. It's even more hilarious when you find out that Ghost Rider was originally created as a Daredevil villain before someone said that the flaming skeleton on a motorbike was so rad he could probably carry his own book.
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Jan 31, 2014 15:39
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I was under the impression the new Thunderbolts wasn't very good. Those panels just made me want to get the entire thing, so either talk me out of it or confirm it's got more amusing antics of dumb villains/anti-heroes that are totally worth reading through.
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Jan 31, 2014 16:15
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Saoshyant posted:I was under the impression the new Thunderbolts wasn't very good. Those panels just made me want to get the entire thing, so either talk me out of it or confirm it's got more amusing antics of dumb villains/anti-heroes that are totally worth reading through. Way left and it got better
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Saoshyant posted:I was under the impression the new Thunderbolts wasn't very good. Those panels just made me want to get the entire thing, so either talk me out of it or confirm it's got more amusing antics of dumb villains/anti-heroes that are totally worth reading through. It's been legit as gently caress since Soule took over. He's spinning gold out of the poo poo that Way left behind.
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Jan 31, 2014 17:19
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Some googling seems to imply Soule took over on issue #12? Going to start from there, then. Thanks.
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Jan 31, 2014 17:42
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Rhyno posted:It's been legit as gently caress since Soule took over. He's spinning gold out of the poo poo that Way left behind. Marvel's had some serious luck with bullshit books that Daniel Way wrote and left, huh? Both Deadpool AND Thunderbolts got good after he hosed off.
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Jan 31, 2014 20:55
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I think it's because they are in such a low place when he walks off that Marvel doesn't see harm in getting a bit experimental with the books.
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Mr. Maltose posted:I think it's because they are in such a low place when he walks off that Marvel doesn't see harm in getting a bit experimental with the books. There's that. I think it's also that both the basic concepts of Deadpool and Thundebrolts are books that a strong writer doesn't have to work too hard to wrap theirs heads around. Deadpool: Mercenary with mental illness tries to atone for past, gets into hijinx along the way. Thundebrolts: Team of especially skilled people with deep seeded issues try to help one another make their lives easier and make world a better place.
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It helps that the Red Hulk Thunderbolts didn't even have a hook until after Way left. When Way wrote it it was, "General Ross puts together a bunch of killer superheroes to help him with a thing. Also, Leader is red and there's a crazy witch hanging around." Once he left, Soule made it, "Team of killer superheroes agree to help each other out by fulfilling missions that none of them could do alone. They figure it out by picking names out of a hat."
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Jan 31, 2014 23:03
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Gavok posted:It helps that the Red Hulk Thunderbolts didn't even have a hook until after Way left. When Way wrote it it was, "General Ross puts together a bunch of killer superheroes to help him with a thing. Also, Leader is red and there's a crazy witch hanging around." Once he left, Soule made it, "Team of killer superheroes agree to help each other out by fulfilling missions that none of them could do alone. They figure it out by picking names out of a hat. WHILE WEARING A STYLISH CHAPEAU." Fixed that little bit for ya. It even had a feather in it 
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Messing with Forge's head seems to have given him the downs   UXF# 17 I don't remember the art or writing being this bad before this issue. Or am I just crazy?
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Mr. Maltose posted:It's even more hilarious when you find out that Ghost Rider was originally created as a Daredevil villain before someone said that the flaming skeleton on a motorbike was so rad he could probably carry his own book. drat, did not know that. You kind of wonder if it was the right call. Maybe Daredevil would have been a much bigger deal and earlier on too if they had given him such a badass villain, though Stunt Master had already been established so would they have ignored him or turned Stunt Master into Ghost Rider?
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Feb 2, 2014 14:59
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Daredevil kinda would be a more fitting name for Ghost Rider too, it's got both the demon and stuntman angle in the name. I just don't know what a better name for Daredevil would be in its place.
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Dacap posted:I just don't know what a better name for Daredevil would be in its place. Sonar?
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Feb 2, 2014 18:08
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wdarkk posted:Sonar? ECHO!
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Feb 2, 2014 18:12
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Using an advanced form of echolocation to move around... almost like some sort of bat... but a man!
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Feb 2, 2014 18:20
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I never get why superheroes always have to tell everyone their powers in their name. It's practically telling their foes how to beat them. I can't remember which comic it was, but I think it was an Image imprint, where a new hero found a ring that gave him superpowers and, naturally, decided to call himself the Ring. Luckily for him, he met an older hero who told him to cut that poo poo out because he was effectively calling himself 'Cut-My-Hand-Off-And-My-Powers-Will-Vanish Man'. The only possible exception to this would be if you were telekinetic. In that case, calling yourself Mr. Shifty would be perfectly acceptable.
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Feb 2, 2014 18:24
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That was Freedom Ring in Marvel Team-Up. He had a ring carved out of a cosmic cube that could affect reality around him.
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Forgive the cell phone image, but it's topical. Astonishing X-Men 20
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Gorilla Salad posted:I never get why superheroes always have to tell everyone their powers in their name. It's practically telling their foes how to beat them. I know that's the joke, and it comes up in Invincible, but how many heroes actually offer up a weakness in their name? Or at least, how many have names that are on-the-nose and have powers that aren't immediately obvious already? Are there tons I'm forgetting? Like if you heard some guy called Cyclops was out there, sure your first thought would be to neutralize his eyes somehow when you fight him but that would be apparent within seconds of meeting him anyway. For Spider-Man you could expect some webs and wall-crawling but you'd probably be wrong about the rest of his powers if he was totally unfamiliar to you. Strength, speed? Where'd those come from? And where are his extra eyes, or limbs, or barbs, or venom, or digestive enzymes?
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Lobok posted:I know that's the joke, and it comes up in Invincible, but how many heroes actually offer up a weakness in their name? Or at least, how many have names that are on-the-nose and have powers that aren't immediately obvious already? Are there tons I'm forgetting? Like if you heard some guy called Cyclops was out there, sure your first thought would be to neutralize his eyes somehow when you fight him but that would be apparent within seconds of meeting him anyway. The proportional weakness to Raid Max® Spider & Scorpion Killer of a spider
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Dacap posted:Daredevil kinda would be a more fitting name for Ghost Rider too, it's got both the demon and stuntman angle in the name. I just don't know what a better name for Daredevil would be in its place. I don't know why they don't just go whole hog and change Ghost Rider's name to Skull Rider. Because skulls are awesome.
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Uthor posted:Forgive the cell phone image, but it's topical. God Joss Whedon's original character contributions to the X-Men world were poo poo. Aside from Danger, but even that has more to do with John Cassidy's design rather than the backstory, which raises more questions than it does intrigue.
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Lobok posted:I know that's the joke, and it comes up in Invincible, but how many heroes actually offer up a weakness in their name? Or at least, how many have names that are on-the-nose and have powers that aren't immediately obvious already? Are there tons I'm forgetting? Like if you heard some guy called Cyclops was out there, sure your first thought would be to neutralize his eyes somehow when you fight him but that would be apparent within seconds of meeting him anyway.
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mind the walrus posted:God Joss Whedon's original character contributions to the X-Men world were poo poo. Aside from Danger, but even that has more to do with John Cassidy's design rather than the backstory, which raises more questions than it does intrigue. Dude, WHAT? Armor is rad, Danger is the one who looks and is totally retarded.
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Feb 2, 2014 20:35
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Ignite Memories posted:Dude, WHAT? Armor is rad, Danger is the one who looks and is totally retarded. Danger is being used well, to my knowledge at least. Armor was just another in a looooong line of failed attempts to replicate the Kitty Pryde magic, which coming from Whedon is a little egregious because with his Kitty-boner he really should have known better.
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Ghostlight posted:Green Lantern is a direct reference to his need to charge the ring from an external source, Aquaman couldn't survive outside of water for more than an hour, and Martian Manhunter just out and tells you that the shapeshifter you're facing is from a race that is universally poo poo scared of fire. How familiar are most earthlings with with the psychology of Martians? Plus for most of his history, wasn't he the only living green one? How do find it humorous how in early Spider-Man he won't shut the gently caress up about his Spider-Sense, which is his only ability that isn't instantly apparent to bad guys and makes a great hole card when dealing with someone tricky.
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mind the walrus posted:God Joss Whedon's original character contributions to the X-Men world were poo poo. Aside from Danger, but even that has more to do with John Cassidy's design rather than the backstory, which raises more questions than it does intrigue. What about Blindfold?
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mind the walrus posted:Danger is being used well, to my knowledge at least. Armor was just another in a looooong line of failed attempts to replicate the Kitty Pryde magic, which coming from Whedon is a little egregious because with his Kitty-boner he really should have known better. I don't really have any strong opinions about wolverine's underage BFF club, although I do see it as more of a function of wolverine being terrible than anyone else. What I do see is a female Tank with a cool-looking power. There's not a lot of that going around.
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bobkatt013 posted:What about Blindfold? Much like his other grand contribution, "Wing," she's very lazily conceived and functions more as a plot device than a worthwhile character in her own right. She's second to Danger as his best creation on his run, though that's not saying too much. Meanwhile compare that to say, Grant Morrison's tenure on the title-- Cassandra Nova, Quentin Quire, The Stepford Cuckoos, Glob Herman, the gloriously awful pair of Beak and Angel, Sublime, the U-Men. Ok granted he had like three-four years on the title and wasn't in the middle of being the figurehead for a bunch of TV shows/movie projects, but my point remains valid. E-- CapnAndy posted:And Abigail Brand? Oh yeah, I totally forgot that he introduced her and SWORD. I modify my statement to "his contributions to the X-Men roster were poo poo." Ignite Memories posted:I don't really have any strong opinions about wolverine's underage BFF club, although I do see it as more of a function of wolverine being terrible than anyone else. Er, it's not really about Wolverine's BFF club (although that's an element of it), it's more about the weird need X-writers have to try and create a "little sister" figure on the team. Wolverine's also not terrible, much as his overexposure makes me want to say so. As for Armor herself, she's not the worst, but she's so uninspired and it's no surprise she's completely faded into the background since her introduction for the most part. I agree that having a female Tank with a dynamic looking power is in short supply, but Armor's armor always looked like lame bubbles and not like something that belonged alongside characters as iconic as the X-Men. More like a D-list New Class background mutant, which again is exactly what she became after Whedon wasn't around to promote her. mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Feb 2, 2014 |
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Man, I must be the only person who doesn't like quentin quire.
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