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TetsuoTW posted:Keep posting wank, keep acting surprised when people call you a wanker. This made I are laughs.
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Ugh I had to put on pants for the first time in a week. I want to go back to the Southeast Asia thread where the only controversy is pretending sex tourism isn't a thing goons would ever do. Also, it never gets old when people get called out for being a jackass and they fall back on the "comedy forum" excuse.
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Feb 3, 2014 08:09
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Moon Slayer posted:Pandemonium, please teach me how to be The Best Foreigner In Taiwan like you. First, learn some Chinese. Then, don't get butthurt when people take the piss out of your job after you yourself do so. You have such thin skin. Still waiting to hear what your editorials were about. TetsuoTW posted:Keep posting wank, keep acting surprised when people call you a wanker. I would recommend a semicolon there. That's my professional opinion. Would love to know where I denigrated professional writers. My first post that angered poetrywhore was about the kinds of people who would join poetrywhore's little group: i.e., amateur writers writing lovely short stories and poetry about how kooky Taiwan is, how crazy living in another culture can be, culture shock, etc. Basically a bunch of blowhard ESL teachers pretending to be something they are not and getting outrageously upset at the slightest amount of criticism. This includes see the majority of artists, DJs, and photographers on this island. Oh, who am I kidding--all of the DJs. The "writers", though, are the ones I have the most beef with because they are obviously crimping my style, y'know? I've seen too many 補習班 teachers with name cards and "companies" for writing and editing.  Not everything written in this thread is directed at the posters. People should take things on the SA forum a little less seriously, y'know? And, Atlas Hugged, I'll do you the favor of only mentioning (and not helicoptering it in your face) how I was in fact semi-correct in my assumption about Mr./Mrs. Character History him/herself, Magna Kaser.
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Feb 3, 2014 09:23
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And I still think my reasoning is accurate regardless of you being "semi" correct. He has an advanced degree in Chinese, you have lovely opinions about people. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
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Feb 3, 2014 09:48
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For reference, this guy is a puppet master: This is just bad posting: Pandemonium posted:First, learn some Chinese. Then, don't get butthurt when people take the piss out of your job after you yourself do so. You have such thin skin. Still waiting to hear what your editorials were about.
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Feb 3, 2014 10:59
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Pandemonium posted:I would recommend a semicolon there. That's my professional opinion. As a professional editorial columnist and movie critic I would like to point out that this is Bad Advice.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:03
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TetsuoTW posted:Keep posting wank, keep acting surprised when people call you a wanker. I don't know what you guys are so upset about. Pandemonium is a great poster; I chuckle at every post he makes. Pay more respect to his outstanding qualifications. Here are some of them: Pandemonium posted:All my neighbors are 阿媽 and I am always practicing my Taiwanese with them. I make small talk with all the tea shops and other shops around my house. I use Chinese exclusively with my co-workers (the few I have). I have met quite a few foreigners around here. I am only a tender 26 years of age. I work at home. I don't have co-workers. I have a small group of friends I do stuff with, mostly on the weekends. I have very little opportunity to just bump into girls. I don't want to derail this thread any further. I'm approaching PARC status soon, so I've been here for quite a while. I go to the gym, I swim, I travel, I read, I play basketball, and I also happen to go on dates every now and then. I get laid. I don't need your sympathy, damnit! I want to be angry, not apathetic. I will never be Taiwanese. I have helped five students prepare for the SAT. I have done GEPT, IELTS, TOEFL, TOEIC, and even GED privates as well. I've got private students, an outstanding $1,000,000 NTD owed to me for a previous job, an ongoing project writing GEPT practice tests, and a few other options that may or may not be worth pursuing. I can't live with the idea of working for a multinational corporation. I still have a smart phone and a computer. I see so many openly gay female couples and very few openly gay male couples in Taichung. I write for a living. I know the caliber of writers on this island. I am pretty content with my effort: output ratio: there were a couple books published in 2013 in which I was the sole English editor and partial writer for, and there is a group of forthcoming national GEPT-clone tests in which I am the sole author. I can sleep at night. I've listened to enough foreign "DJs", seen enough work from foreign "photographers" (90% of whom are "working" clubs and events and are clearly in the business of taking pictures of girls without being considered a pervert), and worked with enough foreign "writers" to appreciate that they are, in fact, suitable for no other job than babysitting. I'm just a 20-something misanthrope. I'm just here to break up the circlejerking. It's my calling. I do it on some ex-pat Chinese boards through the use of the beautiful 繁體字. I do it here by calling poo poo poo poo. I don't like echo chambers, y'know? I have friends who are Chinese teachers in Taiwan and China. Sit the gently caress down, everybody.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:07
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 Stephen Fry is okay, his followers can be annoying. I'd say he makes a fair point in this case.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:08
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Moon Slayer posted:As a professional editorial columnist and movie critic I would like to point out that this is Bad Advice.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:11
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How 'bout I park a semi in your colon.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:23
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Pandemonium posted:You need to learn what 故意'ing is. This is SA la. I am surprised with people like poetrywhore having such thin skin. That name alone makes her easily-offendedness infinitely more Sucka betta not act like you know a GOT drat thing about me just because I defends my art. Edit: haha! And then you go into great detail predicting the exact people who might show up at my events and exactly what will be read based on one show you went to once. Nevermind, you're hilarious. Talk all you want, but keep the comedy coming. poetrywhore fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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Feb 3, 2014 13:30
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Pandemonium how much do you charge for editing? Because I've got a column coming out soon and want it to really "pop," you know? Here's a preview: 
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Feb 3, 2014 14:41
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re:Taiwan domestic game industry a few page back. Taiwan used to have a decently sized game industry back in the mid 90s, with game like 仙劍奇俠 the zenith of Taiwanese game development. However, ever since the release of Lineage (天堂 an MMO) the entire industry basically go into an MMO gold rush, then they most transform to free to play developer. Now it's mostly mobile and web game developers dominating the rest of the survivors.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:01
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pedro0930 posted:re:Taiwan domestic game industry a few page back. I actually work in the mobile space so that's what I was more curious about, actually. I see Taiwan spends a ton of money on mobile games overall but I've never seen one developer from Taiwan show up anywhere on the radar, whereas there are numerous Korean/Japanese/HK/Chinese developers making waves in that space.
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Feb 4, 2014 03:11
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Cheers to SpanishMatlock, TetsuoTW and PotatoofDoom for showing up, bringing extra players and generally being cool. For thems of you who wanted to come play poker last night and missed out, you'll no doubt be super-uber pleased and just squirming with excitement to hear that ... such fun was had we decided to make a 1K game a regular thing. Where the Wednesday/small stakes thing was a struggle for a few folk, you'll also be happy to hear this was addressed. 1K Game on the 3rd Friday of the month, same format, same location. I was thinking to make a downloadable iCal, gCal, and various mobile apps so you could have the dates integrated with live dynamically syncing updates in your calendars - but really - it's not hard to remember! I'll post reminders nearer the time, but the next 1K game is scheduled for Friday 14 March. It's a 1K game so the dynamics are a little different. A friend asked me if he could join late, and while that's cool as a one-off, it's less than ideal for any number of reasons. The best way to deal with any and all of the smaller concerns is simply to join the LINE group. If you don't have me or one of the above on your LINE, then add me, mention something goony so that I know you're not spam, and I'll add you (0970229902). Of note, we skipped on the 1:45 end since all was going well, and basically played until the owner called it. With only 4 players left (one being a late antendee), it seemed the right thing to do in order that those who lost cash could have the chance to re-buy/make it back etc etc etc (yes, I did 3 buy-ins for the evening). So yeah, there you have it, CNY gave birth to a bright shiny new game. Since tomorrow is most folks' first day back at work, and unless there is a huge upswell of disappointment, rancour, threats of public hangings (in which case we can just push it back to next week) the regular small stakes game is off for this month. url fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Feb 4, 2014 07:47
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I saw a gutted pig draped over a truck frame this morning. It was pretty cool.
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Feb 5, 2014 03:12
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I refuse to support such barbaric, inhumane festivals. (Nah, just too tired to go on an ugly day. My dad said it was one of the coolest things he had seen in Taiwan, though.)
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Feb 5, 2014 05:42
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To be fair it was on my way to work. Fuckers woke me up at 7 with their drums though.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:50
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If anybody sees february's copy of BIZ magazine (by liveabc) hanging around at their school or something, pick it up! I've got an article in it about Taiwanese pop music. Soon I'll be a qualified enough writer to call Pandemonium a worthless fuckstick!
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Feb 5, 2014 06:40
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Sorry buddy, by being a writer in Taiwan, you've officially outed yourself as talentless! Check and mate.
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Feb 5, 2014 08:03
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To be fair, I've checked a few samples of writings by self-published aspiring Auteurs in Taiwan through Amazon and (academic and travel stuff aside) they're all the same loving book written by the same insightless hack with the same asshat ideas and the same asshat stories, and they're almost all completely terrible. It's that exact poo poo you hear FOBs ranting and raving about - or acting all enlightened and insightful about - all the goddamn time, except with the addition of the belief that it's all so special and unique to you that you must tell the world! It's not so much that their writing is hackish, it's more that their living is hackish.
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Feb 5, 2014 08:56
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But this is hardly unique to Taiwan. There are plenty of people who have written about their unique snowflake experiences in Korea, China, Japan, Mongolia, Russia, etc. The only appeal these have is that they're written from an outside perspective into an insular culture, but after the thousandth self-published book, even that appeal is completely gone. Really the issue isn't that people who identify as writers in Taiwan are just bad at writing. Rather, people who write about their unique special snowflake experiences that are, shocking, par for the course for a foreigner are universally terrible. So there might actually be plenty of good artists living on the island or in Asia in general. They're just not producing art directly related to living in Taiwan.
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Feb 5, 2014 09:02
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Yeah, get enough middle-class white men in an "exotic" (i.e. non-white, non-Christian majority) locale and it's all but inevitable.
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Feb 5, 2014 09:14
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Some goon in hk got hired because his bosses are all old semi senile white men and exotify Asia to the max. Stupid work advice involves "should I not mention things in 4s" and what not. We are talking about multinational corporations over big money deals where all parties have young smart wordly alcoholics. So yeah, exotification.
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Feb 5, 2014 10:30
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I like to write fiction, but I'm so sick of the "white person goes somewhere" genre that I consciously avoid putting personal travel experiences into my stories. No matter how well I describe Machu Picchu or my favorite dumpling cart at the night market, it's not going to be like the reader was there beside me, and it's definitely not a substitute for plot or character development.
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Feb 5, 2014 11:53
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Atlas Hugged posted:a gutted pig draped over a truck frame this morning. dsyp  Also, yeah, whatever can be said about Edward Said (and most of what can be said very much has been said, and yeah it's a very fukn inconvenient name at best) he wasn't far off the mark with the orientalism/exotification thing.
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Feb 5, 2014 13:31
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TetsuoTW posted:To be fair, I've checked a few samples of writings by self-published aspiring Auteurs in Taiwan through Amazon and (academic and travel stuff aside) they're all the same loving book written by the same insightless hack with the same asshat ideas and the same asshat stories, and they're almost all completely terrible. It's that exact poo poo you hear FOBs ranting and raving about - or acting all enlightened and insightful about - all the goddamn time, except with the addition of the belief that it's all so special and unique to you that you must tell the world!  Taiwan just couldn't deal with his edgy punk persona. To be fair though, I would love to read any of these kind of jerkoff stories from anyone who was around in the 1950s-60s. Apparently Steve McQueen hated it in Taiwan when he came here to make a movie: 
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Feb 5, 2014 14:20
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on the left posted:
And yeah, stories from back in the day are at least interesting because Taiwan was very different then and in one hell of an interesting situation, fresh off the wars, colonial government, and whatnot. There's more to talk about than some Eat Pray Love bullshit or Li'l Babby Culture Shock.
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Feb 5, 2014 14:33
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Okay, that dude describing himself as a "scribe" is really too much. I know of the author. He's friends with a friend of mine. Been here for probably six or seven years and cannot speak even basic Mandarin. Normal poo poo. I wouldn't be surprised if his gf/wife got him hooked up with that book deal. Working that 關係 hard. Whoever name-dropped Said needs to please take that poo poo out of this thread. That dude is an idiot. An important one, but an idiot nonetheless.
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Feb 5, 2014 18:03
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Look who's back to keep sucking on the titty of failure. What's it like sitting down to a hearty bowl of alphabet soup just to face a bowl fulla L's every time?
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Feb 5, 2014 19:38
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Lost in Translation has basically covered all the bases for "whitey experience in Asia" except for maybe "drunken old man telling you 'American #1' while peeing in the street".
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Feb 6, 2014 01:47
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Pandemonium posted:Okay, that dude describing himself as "Pandemonium" is really too much.
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TetsuoTW posted:To be fair, I've checked a few samples of writings by self-published aspiring Auteurs in Taiwan through Amazon and (academic and travel stuff aside) they're all the same loving book written by the same insightless hack with the same asshat ideas and the same asshat stories, and they're almost all completely terrible. It's that exact poo poo you hear FOBs ranting and raving about - or acting all enlightened and insightful about - all the goddamn time, except with the addition of the belief that it's all so special and unique to you that you must tell the world! So saying there is a dearth of writing talent on this island gets everyone's engines revved and pitchforks spiked, but a post like this gets nothing? I'm calling shenanigans. And I love that Spanish Matlock thinks writing a single article--about Taiwanese pop music no less--is something worth sharing. Good on ya, English teacher extraordinaire, Esq. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 6, 2014 04:04
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When someone makes a lighthearted, humorous generalization people laugh but when I directly call a poster worthless people get upset!? What gives?
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Feb 6, 2014 04:13
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Please feel free to boast of your world-changing work and publications and the amounts of money you received for them, again.
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Feb 6, 2014 04:16
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Moon Slayer posted:When someone makes a lighthearted, humorous generalization people laugh but when I directly call a poster worthless people get upset!? What gives? So when it's about anonymous people who don't post here it's okay? Those double standards. If you make a post that amounts to "My job is a joke and I can write whatever I want and my boss will approve it and run it", you deserve to be called out and made fun of. You made the post, not me. That's not how a professional newspaper is run. Sounds like a school paper, to be honest, and speaks to the low opinion most people I know have of the English-language papers here. I'm sorry. I'll try not to step on your easily offended toes. Duckfarts, please take those words you have put in my mouth out.
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Feb 6, 2014 04:23
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Ugh, fine, you got me. Because you keep harping on this, I will admit that I utilized a concept known as "hyperbole" in my statement. Obviously any article or editorial submitted has to get pre-approval from the boss and senior editor, then be looked over by them before being edited at the copy desk by someone not the author. This process usually takes a few days. Are you happy? I'm guessing no. So this post isn't completely a waste of space and since we're back talking about Taiwan's media again, by owner fiat the only topic we're officially not allowed to discuss at The China Post is independence. That means we're not allowed to write pro- or anti-independence editorials or even discuss a debate about it. Occasionally we'll run a thing about the some fringe group calling for independence, but it's pretty rare. Call the president an idiot in the editorial? Fine, just don't ever discuss anything related to independence.
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Feb 6, 2014 04:41
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Pandemonium posted:Duckfarts, please take those words you have put in my mouth out. Post some of your writing here edit: after 7 days
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Feb 6, 2014 04:43
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Gaoliang bottles are made of sterner stuff than vodka bottles. I've had the same bottle of Gaoliang plummet from my fringe half a dozen times without so much as a crack. My bottle of Finlandia drops once and my entire dining room is covered in shattered glass and wasted booze. If I'm ever in a bar fight in Taiwan, I know exactly what to reach for.
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duckfarts posted:Please feel free to boast of your world-changing work and publications and the amounts of money you received for them, again.
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