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Killsion
Feb 16, 2011

Templars Rock.
So the gist of this council post sums up to reputation grind? Looking forward to it if the rewards are sufficient. Little iffy on the Focus stuff, since I'm that guy that never uses long cooldown abilities because I always think to myself "I should of used it here instead" so I just never use it at all.

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zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES
Just had to solo Caliban (Uranus L15-18 rescue). God awful. Took max range Frost Prime and a Synapse, got to the hostage, proceeded to go through 15-20 big-rear end rooms that all went as follows:

- See a mob
- Immediately drop Snow Globe
- Get teleported by a Commander 3-4 seconds later
- Reorient, kill surrounding heavies, kill Commander in snow globe
- Move to next room, scavenge energy orbs en route if possible
- Repeat

Hate Rescue. Hate it.

zgrowler2 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Feb 4, 2014

QQmore
Jan 10, 2010
I actually liked my torid. Haven't used in a while though since I'm chasing mastery ranks.

Accel Blast is really great for the fire rate and the absurd amount of piercing type damage it adds. Turns shotguns into grineer murdering machines. I'm not a fan of the reload times for the strun and boar. Tigris is a lot quicker, even with two shot capacity. I've pretty much got every single non prime primary at the moment except for some of the special one time onlys like the Braton Vandal and strun wraith.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva

zgrowler2 posted:

Just had to solo Caliban (Uranus L15-18 rescue). God awful. Took max range Frost Prime and a Synapse, got to the hostage, proceeded to go through 15-20 big-rear end rooms that all went as follows:

- See a mob
- Immediately drop Snow Globe
- Get teleported by a Commander 3-4 seconds later
- Reorient, kill surrounding heavies, kill Commander in snow globe
- Move to next room, scavenge energy orbs en route if possible
- Repeat

Hate Rescue. Hate it.

Yeha, Grineer rescues get bullshit as soon as you're in the levels where commanders and napalms start showing up. I'm pretty sure they're scripted to just make bullshit ambushes like that. First time I did a mid-level Grineer with a buddy of mine, we opened a co-op door and a napalm just stone cold murdered the hostage before we knew what the gently caress.

Now I have punch-through on all my guns and dump a magazine through every door.

Rivensteel
Mar 30, 2010
Is there any reason to get a Hek/Sobek/Tigris when I've got a pretty boss Drakgoon? Besides affinity/leveling, I guess.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




If you like it, I guess. I've forma'd my Tigris a few times so that it's pretty drat powerful, just not completely optimal compared to the best guns.

I kind of wish Warframe had MGS-style stealth and the hilarious possibilities that MGS games have. Lay down next to a man while holding a torch, and he'll eventually go up in flames? Yes please.

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES

Echophonic posted:

Yeha, Grineer rescues get bullshit as soon as you're in the levels where commanders and napalms start showing up. I'm pretty sure they're scripted to just make bullshit ambushes like that. First time I did a mid-level Grineer with a buddy of mine, we opened a co-op door and a napalm just stone cold murdered the hostage before we knew what the gently caress.

Now I have punch-through on all my guns and dump a magazine through every door.

Maybe I should start doing that. It'd save a lot of trouble.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
Is there any way to start a new group? There's some rear end in a top hat sitting AFK on Cyath, and the game keeps teaming me up with him, but there's nothing going on in the mission.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

You'll have to go Private and invite friends or people out of chat unfortunately. I really wish there was a lobby browser so you could see some basic info (like PING ughh) to choose a game to join or start your own.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
Since I was checking for my own reference:

Optimal damage type
Grineer: Puncture
Corpus: Impact
Infested: Slash

Optimal element
Grineer: Corrosive (Electric + Toxin) [for most grunts] or Radiation (Heat + Electric) [for elite units]
Corpus: Magnetic (Cold + Electric)
Infested: Gas (Heat + Toxin) [for the smaller guys] or Corrosive (Electric + Toxin) [for the Ancients]

This is assuming you care exclusively about damage and not effect procs.

vv: Yeah, I missed that. I think Corpus is the only faction with a really clear winner in element.

Elysiume fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Feb 4, 2014

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
I would personally prefer Radiation over Corrosive for pure damage not counting status procs for Grineer, because I'd rather have +75% damage versus Napalms.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Viral is probably the best element for fighting bosses and some elites, IMO.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

How often do Energy Siphon alerts crop up? I've been playing this game on and off for over a year now and don't think I've ever actually seen one. Figured i would've at least seen one I missed on the alerts twitter or something.

E: VVVVVV PC over here, but I'm pretty sure the time frame I mentioned precluded PS4 anyway. Maybe I just have poo poo luck.

Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Feb 4, 2014

BarkingSquirrel
Sep 12, 2008

by Smythe
I've gotten two in the last week or so but that's on PS4.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
PS4 goons, there's 2 days left on the Cicero Crisis. I just got my vermillion antitoxin. Anyone available to meet tomorrow night for a 400 run so we can get LLJK to the top of the clan score?

BarkingSquirrel
Sep 12, 2008

by Smythe
Pretty much all the goons that ran it on PS4 just used Lapis. PS4 goon clan seems to just not give a poo poo about anything. Hell, I was scoffed at by goons the first time I suggested we even do the CC at all.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
[PC] Orokin catalyst alert up. Ariel, Uranus. 1:50 left as of now.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

The clan score for the event is an average, so unless everyone in the PS4 clan only did 400 runs there is no way you will show up in the leader boards.

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"

Gestalt Intellect posted:

You'll have to go Private and invite friends or people out of chat unfortunately. I really wish there was a lobby browser so you could see some basic info (like PING ughh) to choose a game to join or start your own.

It's stuff like this that has really killed my interest when so many updates came and went and they didn't fix really basic stuff like this; there should at least be a "Look for Group" and a "Start a Game" when you click on a node, right now the only thing you can really do is set your ping limit all the way down and hope that the game pulls accurate pings (even at the lowest ping preference I still get tons of games with really bad hosts).

And holy poo poo the game has gone for so long with one of the worst HUDs in anything I've played in the past decade, I know that there's one "on the way" but they have been saying that for 8-ish months. They at least could have modified the existing UI in the mean time.

But I guess it all really comes down to the fact that they don't have a loving design doc (which they are very proud of apparently :psyduck:).

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

They really should get working on that GUI, new guns are cool and all but if they want to survive in the F2P market the user enjoyment needs to go up, that and a greatly improved new player experience.

Barnacle Snatcher
Aug 19, 2006

All things began in order so shall they end, so shall they begin again according to the Ordainer of Order and the mystical mathematicks of the City of Heaven.

BarkingSquirrel posted:

Pretty much all the goons that ran it on PS4 just used Lapis. PS4 goon clan seems to just not give a poo poo about anything. Hell, I was scoffed at by goons the first time I suggested we even do the CC at all.

I got burned out farming voids for weeks when the game came out, no regrets. Now I just play to kill time until a real game I want comes out. 7 days!

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Sandweed posted:

They really should get working on that GUI, new guns are cool and all but if they want to survive in the F2P market the user enjoyment needs to go up, that and a greatly improved new player experience.

The new UI is supposed to be out in the next update (probably coming this week), or shortly after that.

mrEkli
Feb 9, 2004
I was there.

seiferguy posted:

PS4 goons, there's 2 days left on the Cicero Crisis. I just got my vermillion antitoxin. Anyone available to meet tomorrow night for a 400 run so we can get LLJK to the top of the clan score?

The times I keep playing at are night. Need some sunlight stuff...

Aishan
Oct 29, 2011
I need to set a decent score on the Cicero event, but I literally cannot find any ingredients over than those bloody pinecones.

Rivensteel
Mar 30, 2010

Barnacle Snatcher posted:

I got burned out farming voids for weeks when the game came out, no regrets. Now I just play to kill time until a real game I want comes out. 7 days!

What's in a week?

Washin Tong
Feb 16, 2011

Aishan posted:

I need to set a decent score on the Cicero event, but I literally cannot find any ingredients over than those bloody pinecones.

Start the mission, check for Jadeleaf/Lilies in the little pond at the beginning, if you find any, finish the mission, if you don't abort and restart.

That's how we did it on PC at least, it's loving tedious as hell but it beats doing it the right way, trust me.

You only need one person to do the farming and make the Vermillion (100pt) antitoxin so if you're feeling altruistic do it yourself and take 3 other people for the ride, otherwise just piggyback on someone else's antitoxin run.

Oh and when you finally get to doing the antitoxin defense mission make sure to bring a full squad and your best gear (a Frost Snow Globing the injector helps a lot but isn't really mandatory). The enemies aren't exactly super high level, but a bunch of unchecked eviscerators/hellions can really gently caress you up anyway, and if you fail the mission the valuable antitoxins are completely lost, so be prepared.

occluded
Oct 31, 2012

Sandals: Become the means to create A JUST SOCIETY


Fun Shoe
:siren: vauban helmet alert on PC, ludi: ceres, 1hour 40 remaining :siren:

Sylver
Jan 27, 2014

I'm trying to think, but nothing happens..
Just failed a ridiculously easy rescue mission because I got teleport juggled by a pair of commanders until the poor hostage died.

Very aggravating.

troublegum
Mar 31, 2013

Sylver posted:

Just failed a ridiculously easy rescue mission because I got teleport juggled by a pair of commanders until the poor hostage died.

Very aggravating.

Lending further credence to the position that Switch Teleport is the Warframe troll power.

zgrowler2 posted:


Hate Rescue. Hate it.

I always wondered why they took the other 'R' mission out and left the escort mission in. Because it's a well known fact that everyone loves escort missions.

troublegum fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 4, 2014

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

troublegum posted:

I always wondered why they took the other 'R' mission out and left the escort mission in. Because it's a well known fact that everyone loves escort missions.

Wait, what was the "other 'R' mission"?

ThugElectro
Jan 16, 2014

NUDIST BEACH

hooah posted:

Wait, what was the "other 'R' mission"?

Raid.

troublegum
Mar 31, 2013

hooah posted:

Wait, what was the "other 'R' mission"?

Raid. You had to go an grab an artifact and then run to extraction. It wasn't a billion times better than Rescue or any great work of gaming art or anything. Ostensibly, the reasoning behind its removal was that everyone would just rush to the artifact and then rush to extraction.

I'm kinda looking forward to this whole Solar Towers, taxing pubbies missions thing. Though I'm not looking forward to the possiblity of alarm clock ops to deal with rival towers, pre-Dominion sov style.

Washin Tong
Feb 16, 2011

troublegum posted:

Raid. You had to go an grab an artifact and then run to extraction. It wasn't a billion times better than Rescue or any great work of gaming art or anything. Ostensibly, the reasoning behind its removal was that everyone would just rush to the artifact and then rush to extraction.

Doesn't that still happen with Deception? Take McGuffin to Place, run out. You can't use your primary but you can still rush in and out.

Orokin artifacts are such a huge thing in the Warframe universe that having the mission where you go and take them removed feels kinda silly.

Fake Edit: oh wait nevermind. It looks like DE wants to get rid of Deception as well.

I guess a good replacement for Raid would be to have the artifact in the hands of some randomized miniboss with some special Orokin ability (like Vor has his teleporter and nervos), maybe have more than one per mission, but no more than 2-3 (gently caress Spy missions with 4 terminals).

troublegum
Mar 31, 2013

Washin Tong posted:

Doesn't that still happen with Deception? Take McGuffin to Place, run out. You can't use your primary but you can still rush in and out.

Orokin artifacts are such a huge thing in the Warframe universe that having the mission where you go and take them removed feels kinda silly.

Fake Edit: oh wait nevermind. It looks like DE wants to get rid of Deception as well.

I guess a good replacement for Raid would be to have the artifact in the hands of some randomized miniboss with some special Orokin ability (like Vor has his teleporter and nervos), maybe have more than one per mission, but no more than 2-3 (gently caress Spy missions with 4 terminals).

The "rushing" reasoning for Raid's removal always felt a silly one, yes. And yes, gently caress Spy Missions with four terminals. Or even worse, when Lotus decides you did those four terminals way too fast, so have another four. :de:.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Wasn't Raid replaced by the infinitely superior Survival because no one was playing Raid missions?

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
Raid was too straightforward and inoffensive for DE. You run in, you push button, you run out.

If memory serves, they want to replace Rescue missions with an Escort In mission type involving a Lotus drone that hacks multiple locations, instead of the current Escort Out.
And considering how often DE breaks pathfinding, the first week after that fucker comes out is going to be ugly.

troublegum
Mar 31, 2013

Fish Noise posted:

Raid was too straightforward and inoffensive for DE. You run in, you push button, you run out.

If memory serves, they want to replace Rescue missions with an Escort In mission type involving a Lotus drone that hacks multiple locations, instead of the current Escort Out.
And considering how often DE breaks pathfinding, the first week after that fucker comes out is going to be ugly.

Eagerly awaiting the inevitable failure when the Lotus drone meets the level's first elevator.

"Tenno, there is a problem. The Drone has encountered a barrier to its progress."

ThugElectro
Jan 16, 2014

NUDIST BEACH

Fish Noise posted:

Raid was too straightforward and inoffensive for DE. You run in, you push button, you run out.

If memory serves, they want to replace Rescue missions with an Escort In mission type involving a Lotus drone that hacks multiple locations, instead of the current Escort Out.
And considering how often DE breaks pathfinding, the first week after that fucker comes out is going to be ugly.

Sounds like Sabotage missions (Or is it the spy missions?) where you take a briefcase to a control terminal, plug that sucker in and then leave. Just with the inconvenience of a terrible pathing AI.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

troublegum posted:

And yes, gently caress Spy Missions with four terminals. Or even worse, when Lotus decides you did those four terminals way too fast, so have another four. :de:.
My favorite was when the game decided during a solo run that I needed to do a deception mission after finishing a spy objective.

The deception and spy datamasses don't stack.

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Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
Quick noob question here: I put together the rhino chassis in the foundry but I can't find where I equip it. When I go to the arsenal menu and highlight my current one (excalibur) it pulls up a menu for different builds. The rhino chassis still says I need 375 plat to unlock. Where do I find what I built?

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