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Ghost Hand posted:I wouldnt call them "bullshit" they are pretty fun. The Heralds of Ruin ones are great though! It's BS for the amount of time they put in their own KT rules. GW missed a solid opportunity to expand their player base and dramatically lower the cost of entering the hobby. But they blew it so they could make a quick buck. And I don't even know how well that panned out since reviews for GWs KT rules were pretty poor. GW defiantly left money on the table.
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So my LGS asked for help orchestrating a small campaign. I'm thinking of a planetary invasion, pitting the store's IG and SM players against the Eldar and Tau. I'm thinking of having a small hex-based map where people will have to choose their moves carefully. Do you attack the armories and try to deny the Space Marines vital firepower? If the xenos succeed, the Imperium has to pay extra for special/heavy weapons. If they succeed, a Tactical Squad can all take special/heavy weapons. Do you attack their vehicle yards? If the Space Marines defend it successfully, they get an extra HS slot. But if the xenos succeed, Imperium tanks have to try to deploy from Ongoing Reserves turn 2 or 3 or something. Obviously this is just theories and I need to balance it further but I'm kind of excited.
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Feb 4, 2014 01:47
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:So my LGS asked for help orchestrating a small campaign. I'm thinking of a planetary invasion, pitting the store's IG and SM players against the Eldar and Tau. That sounds great. Is that Planetary Campaigns (conquest?) expansion still usable in 6th edition? If so, you could build your hex map using that - I think that uses hexes and has the same general idea.
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Feb 4, 2014 01:49
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Noctis Horrendae posted:That sounds great. Is that Planetary Campaigns (conquest?) expansion still usable in 6th edition? If so, you could build your hex map using that - I think that uses hexes and has the same general idea. It is, with minor tweaks. We were doing a PE campaign at my local store until one of our players disappeared 
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Feb 4, 2014 02:18
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Icon Of Sin posted:It is, with minor tweaks. We were doing a PE campaign at my local store until one of our players disappeared Disappeared as in quit going there or literally disappeared? Is he a demon? I wish my LGS hosted cool campaigns. We just have bad Escalation Leagues and Kill Team tourneys.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:31
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So I'm thinking of having some unique rules for the HQs and I started thinking of some. Hatred Burns Brighter: For every enemy character worth at least 100 points slain in a challenge, the Avatar of Khaine gains +1 W and 1+ A. This bonus lasts for the duration of the campaign. The Ethereal's Blessing: For every battle an HQ choice from Codex: Tau Empire is deployed in results in a victory, that HQ receives 1+ Ld, 1+ I, and may take an additional Crisis Bodyguard. This may take him above the nominal limit of Crisis Bodyguards usually in the Codex. To a Trained Eye: For every 2 precision shots made by a Master of the Forge or Space Marine Captain that result in a character being removed as a casualty, it gains 1+ BS. They may choose to forego this bonus once to gain the Split Fire, Night Fighting, or Tank Hunter special rule. I want people to actually use their HQs and develop them over the course of a campaign, and I think stuff like this is really interesting.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:35
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:So I'm thinking of having some unique rules for the HQs and I started thinking of some. For Hatred Burns Brighter, I highly suggest 200 points + for balance's sake - I won't go into detail because this is fairly obvious. To a Trained Eye is interesting, albeit a bit underpowered. How about for every 2 precision shots made that result in a /wound/ causes those HQs to gain +1 BS? Also, for the purpose of keeping things interesting, maybe each special rule should buff each faction's weak spot for a certain amount of turns/phases, i.e. +3 WS for Tau for one assault phase only.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:39
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The red angel gets +1 attack, up to 10, for each IC and Marine he kills in close combat. He costs about 500 points and it doesn’t carry over into campaigns. A similar mechanic could work here, but you’d probably need to price your avatar 50 points more- “for each IC killed the avatar gains +1 attack for the remainder of the game. Roll 1D6. On the result of 5+ the avatar gains an additional wound”
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Feb 4, 2014 02:49
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Groetgaffel posted:The price for the 25mm round base is for 10, so that helps. I meant to ask about your paint scheme. Do you mind sharing the colours you used and writing up a quick guide? I might have to *gasp* assemble and paint my own army if I miss out on this auction.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:52
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Noctis Horrendae posted:Disappeared as in quit going there or literally disappeared? Is he a demon? Stopped coming, doesn't respond to texts or fb messages from anyone in our group. Last anyone saw him was last May, right before he was set to get married. He hasn't showed up as missing or in the obituaries, so he probably just fell back out of the game
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Feb 4, 2014 04:00
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Icon Of Sin posted:Stopped coming, doesn't respond to texts or fb messages from anyone in our group. Last anyone saw him was last May, right before he was set to get married. He hasn't showed up as missing or in the obituaries, so he probably just fell back out of the game Probably got tired of the stereotypical GW fans. I'm willing to bet you and any other goons were the most normal out of the group, and that's saying a whole lot. 
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Feb 4, 2014 04:05
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so after being somewhat disappointed by my recent finecast purchase, today I got my first forgeworld shipment. It was just some shoulderpads and rhino doors, but the quality seems much higher. I think I'm going to get that inquisitor Lok soon.
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Feb 4, 2014 04:06
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Noctis Horrendae posted:Probably got tired of the stereotypical GW fans. I'm willing to bet you and any other goons were the most normal out of the group, and that's saying a whole lot. Most of my group here is military in some form or another. I'm former army, there's 2 national guard soldiers, 3 marines, and a guy that was applying to be in the Air Force before he got steamrolled by a Mack truck (and not only lived, he isn't stuck in a wheelchair and has his old job back  ) that play here. There's a single regular player that isn't military affiliated, but he spends a lot of time on the road anyways so isn't here terribly often. I think that scares off some people, though we try to be inviting and engage anyone that cares to stop and take a look while we're playing  e: I have extra quad gun bitz laying around after disassembling my kit-bashed hydra, these are about to become some dreadnought autocannon arms 
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Feb 4, 2014 04:13
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Icon Of Sin posted:Most of my group here is military in some form or another. I'm former army, there's 2 national guard soldiers, 3 marines, and a guy that was applying to be in the Air Force before he got steamrolled by a Mack truck (and not only lived, he isn't stuck in a wheelchair and has his old job back That actually sounds pretty neat, dunno why someone would be discouraged from that kind of crowd. So long as you don't awkwardly discuss war stories while the few non-military guys sit back and listen, I don't know why people would leave. Help me Groetgraffel-kun, you're my only hope (provided I don't lose this DKoK auction). I probably butchered your name awfully but I typed this out of memory alone. 
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Feb 4, 2014 04:18
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I think your buddy's wife may have something to do with it. That is a purely neutral opinion.
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Feb 4, 2014 05:02
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Noctis Horrendae posted:Disappeared as in quit going there or literally disappeared? Is he a demon? Run your own campaigns. Or initiate them there. We are currently running one based off the system in Imperial Armour 12... http://campaign.epicempires.com/
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Feb 4, 2014 05:03
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i wish Games Workshop still supported leagues, i would gladly pay to play in one.
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Feb 4, 2014 06:25
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:So I'm thinking of having some unique rules for the HQs and I started thinking of some. It may be a good idea to add in a way to lose the bonus for balancing purposes and to add a level of counter play.
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Feb 4, 2014 07:05
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I decided to forgo the usual color schemes for space marines in favor of a custom chapter that would let me play around and find the chapter tactics I really enjoyed, plus there aren't enough purple chapters. I'm really tempted to run with a "3rd Founding Saints" gimmick chapter. This is my first attempt at edge highlighting. I think my colors are too dark/too close to work as well as I had wanted. Primer is GW black. Basecoat is rattlecan Valspar flat lilac. Drakenhof Nightshade wash. Layer with Xereus Purple. Light touch with shade over any parts that aren't quite contrasty enough. Metals are Leadbelcher, then washed with Agrax Earthshade. The bolter got touched with ArmyPainter Shining Silver. I'm not completely sold on touching up the Leadbelcher with silver. I think I like the darker metallic. The shoulderpad edges are straight leadbelcher. I really wanted them to pop. Edit: I'm researching basing techniques and I'll probably be throwing something together when I finish the squad.
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Looks great! Very similar to the pre heresy Emperors children. You've got a few mold lines along the side of the power armour though. It's worth a look at their forgeworld range as a lot of the models would suit a saints row aesthetic: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/Emperors_Children/EMPERORS_CHILDREN_LEGION_PALATINE_BLADES_SQUAD.html For the bases, i'd suggest muted greys (urban/ rubble) or browns (mud). i think it'll contrast well with the model. Come to think of it, the noise marines are pretty much armed with dubstep guns. everyone wear hats now fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Noctis Horrendae posted:I meant to ask about your paint scheme. Do you mind sharing the colours you used and writing up a quick guide? I might have to *gasp* assemble and paint my own army if I miss out on this auction. Cover everything in Devlan Mud, or Agrax Earthshade as they call it nowdays, and go back and highlight with the original colour. Mask lenses is just a flat red with gloss varnish on it. The base is one of GWs texture paints > black wash > drybrush.
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Feb 4, 2014 11:29
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My local indie store is no longer able to order Direct Only stuff due to a change by GW to the T&Cs. Why do they keep doing it?
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Lungboy posted:My local indie store is no longer able to order Direct Only stuff due to a change by GW to the T&Cs. Why do they keep doing it? Because Games Workshop sees that their profit margins are highest when customers have to order direct from Games Workshop, and so they believe that by cutting retailers out of the equation, they can increase profits. Which will be true, for about 6 months.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Because Games Workshop sees that their profit margins are highest when customers have to order direct from Games Workshop, and so they believe that by cutting retailers out of the equation, they can increase profits. Which will be true, for about 6 months. I'm sure a big part of it is to combat online retailers, which is just cutting off the nose to spite the face.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Dream Wizards in Rockville has a decent crowd. The Bowie Battle Bunker is also a good place to game. Also I highly recommend looking into the NOVA Open, which happens in September and is a pretty good convention.
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Lungboy posted:My local indie store is no longer able to order Direct Only stuff due to a change by GW to the T&Cs. Why do they keep doing it? Yeah, I wanted to get a Tau Commander the other day, but since it's a Finecast model it's not available to my local store. GW!!!! 
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Apollodorus posted:Yeah, I wanted to get a Tau Commander the other day, but since it's a Finecast model it's not available to my local store. GW!!!! Yeah, way I heard it from my FLGS is that when the new minis come out, every store gets a couple pieces of each Finecast mini and once those run out, you've got to order them direct from GW. Happened to luck out and the guy was friendly with the GW girl managing the orders so he managed to order in a couple extra XV8-02s. Fair warning about that mini, Finecast is light but it's a fairly hefty chunk of resin atop of two thin legs - you might end up needing to glue a penny or two under the base to keep it standing upright. Also, this was in the summer, and we had a heatwave pass through - I'd assembled the mini, took a look at it a few weeks later, and it was basically doing the limbo - the heat had softened up the leg joints enough for it to flop down under its own weight. A long hot bath to straighten him back out and a length of brass rod 'tween the base and his rear end fixed that issue, though.
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So, I'm trying to think of unique results for campaign missions that could make the game more interesting going forward. I have a few results for a few scenarios. At one point, the Imperium will (possibly) defend an ancient vault (which will be, for gameplay purposes, an Imperial Bunker that's basically an immobile vehicle with 5 HP) filled with relic weaponry. If the Imperium succeeds, any SM model with the type (Character) will be able to mastercraft any item from the Ranged Weapons list for 20 points. If the Xenos succeed, they'll be able to do the same, and will be able to take a minimum sized Troop squad from the codex free of points cost, which are non-scoring. At another point, a Ministorum orphanage will come under attack. If the Imperium succeeds in keeping the xenos away for the duration of the the game, they will receive the Blessing of the Ecclesiarch. Any Imperium character with an invulnerable save receives an additional 1+. I don't know what the xenos counterpart will be. Any feedback?
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koreban posted:there aren't enough purple chapters The addition of a little bit of gold and you've got some Soul Drinkers, before all that chaos nonsense. I don't think they have a definite lineage either, so you could use whatever tactics you want game to game.
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Soul Drinkers are IF, I think. At least it seemed like the Crimson Fists were super loving pissed at them. A 50S RAYGUN fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Feb 4, 2014 15:05
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The Sanguinary Priests of the Angels Sanguine pulled a Maury at the Drinkers' trial and proved that Rogal is not your baby's daddy. No idea who is, though.
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I only ever read the first bad omnibus, so. I'm pretty sure they thought they were Imperial Fists until it got proved otherwise.
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They started out Imperial Fists, but then it got proven that they're Something Else indeed. My pet theory, with the purple-and-bone/gold scheme and a vulnerability to Chaos, is that they're the Emperor's Children counterpart to Blood Ravens (who started out Thousand Sons until the Heresy happened). Being part of some Traitor Legion would explain how they have so few heavy vehicles and Dreadnoughts, most of their kit was lost along with the Legion and their forefathers didn't want to make waves just after the Heresy by requisitioning so much stuff so they learned to make do with what little they had.
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Anyone with a purple and gold colour scheme is obligated to make their chapter emblem the Prince logo 
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Broniki posted:Anyone with a purple and gold colour scheme is obligated to make their chapter emblem the Prince logo Game....blouses.
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Broniki posted:Anyone with a purple and gold colour scheme is obligated to make their chapter emblem the Prince logo That's a funny way to pronounce "Third Street Saints".
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Feb 4, 2014 15:59
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 Royal Crowns chapter.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:So, I'm trying to think of unique results for campaign missions that could make the game more interesting going forward. I have a few results for a few scenarios. 20 points to master craft a ranged weapon is really high, especially when Salamanders get to master craft a single piece of wargear on every character for free. For reference, it cost 15 points to make any weapon master crafted in the 4th edition Space Marine codex, which is a time when Rhinos cost 50 points.
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Yeah I'm not sold on the points cost, I'm just trying to establish basic concepts and fill in the points cost later.
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Oh gently caress yea! This just made my day!Forgeworld posted:Hi, In responce to: Two Feet From Bread posted:Two questions: IA:V4 Mieotic Spore rules gently caress up flyers something fierce. Now to get them to clarify how some old rules work. Two Feet From Bread fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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