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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Fish Noise posted:

If memory serves, they want to replace Rescue missions with an Escort In mission type involving a Lotus drone that hacks multiple locations, instead of the current Escort Out.

This just sounds like a worse version of mobile defense.

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zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES
Gotta say, after powerleveling Oberon on Kiste this weekend, I don't think he's all that bad. Certainly not top tier, could be better, but it's not like Nekros or Damage 2.0 Banshee where I just can't bring myself to slot the frame and finish leveling him.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

echronorian posted:

Quick noob question here: I put together the rhino chassis in the foundry but I can't find where I equip it. When I go to the arsenal menu and highlight my current one (excalibur) it pulls up a menu for different builds. The rhino chassis still says I need 375 plat to unlock. Where do I find what I built?

The chassis isn't something you equip, it's one of three components required to build the frame. You need to get the blueprints for the Rhino systems and the Rhino helmet and build those, then you can buy the Rhino blueprint for credits and build it by using the chassis, systems and helmet (which takes 72 hours).

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

echronorian posted:

Quick noob question here: I put together the rhino chassis in the foundry but I can't find where I equip it. When I go to the arsenal menu and highlight my current one (excalibur) it pulls up a menu for different builds. The rhino chassis still says I need 375 plat to unlock. Where do I find what I built?
The chassis is only one part of the Rhino Warframe. To build a functioning warframe, you need three subcomponents: Chassis, Helmet, Systems. Completed parts should show up in your crafting materials list to the right. Once you have all three built, you can buy an overall blueprint in the market which assembles the three parts into a complete frame. Note that these blueprints only cost credits, not plat.
If you buy the overall blueprint now, you can also check on its entry in the foundry to see which subcomponents you've completed.

seiferguy posted:

This just sounds like a worse version of mobile defense.
Doesn't it?

SilentW
Apr 3, 2009

my It dept hgere is fucking clwonshoes, and as someone hwo used to do IT for 9 years it pains me to see them fbe so terriuble

echronorian posted:

Quick noob question here: I put together the rhino chassis in the foundry but I can't find where I equip it. When I go to the arsenal menu and highlight my current one (excalibur) it pulls up a menu for different builds. The rhino chassis still says I need 375 plat to unlock. Where do I find what I built?

The Chassis is just 1 of 3 parts you need, plus the overall blueprint, to build Rhino. Go get the Systems and Helmet, build those, then buy the BP in the store for credits under "Warframe Blueprints". Then you can build Rhino, and 3 days later, equip him and play as him!

edit: beaten like a rented mule that hosed the farmer's wife and got bondage gear for christmas.

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






echronorian posted:

Quick noob question here: I put together the rhino chassis in the foundry but I can't find where I equip it. When I go to the arsenal menu and highlight my current one (excalibur) it pulls up a menu for different builds. The rhino chassis still says I need 375 plat to unlock. Where do I find what I built?
It should be in the third inventory tab; most unfinished stuff/resources end up there.

But let's back up to your unspoken point (crafting new Warframes). First off, to build any frame, you need to find the blueprints for and craft the corresponding Chassis, Systems, and Helmet. (So you're a third of the way there on that front.) Once they're built, you can use the blueprint for the frame itself (generally purchasable in the market for credits) to combine those pieces into the actual frame. You should not be paying platinum for frames like Rhino; that's a completely alternate method of getting the frame by effectively paying real money for it instead of in-game resources. (Check the OP for how to/how not to spend platinum.)

Additionally, Rhino is the only frame locked by mastery if you build it the normal way. Don't worry about this too much; it only requires rank 2 and that's not hard to get if you're fully leveling two weapons and your frame first. (You get mastery XP by leveling equipment; every level on a weapon is +100 while every level on a frame/sentinel is +200.)

BarkingSquirrel
Sep 12, 2008

by Smythe

mrEkli posted:

The times I keep playing at are night. Need some sunlight stuff...

The night cycle is 1am/pm to 7am/pm EST.

Metaprognosticate
Nov 10, 2013
The thing that stops people from making the Rhino early on probably isn't the the mastery rank requirement but that control module necessary for making the systems. I know it did for me. I don't think I managed to get a control module until way into rank 3, maybe even 4.

If you have trouble finding one, ask a guy in the clan to taxi you to a Europa, Neptune, or Orokin Void mission. Alternatively, just look around in the recruitment tab for people asking for people to join them in a T1 Void mission.

Washin Tong
Feb 16, 2011

Doing a survival mission anywhere until the 15 minute mark (Apollodorus in Mercury is great for beginners) will net you a Void Key, then you do the mission and swim in Control Modules.

I think getting Orokin Cells is actually harder since you need to get to Sargas Ruk in Saturn or get lucky with random drops. Control Modules were an issue when they only dropped from Hyena like 10% of the time, now they're extremely common if you just step into the void.

Bunleigh
Jun 6, 2005

by exmarx
Yeah, the control module, neural sensor and probably plastids are all several planets away from where you start out so it takes a fair amount of time to collect all that poo poo for your first frame, at least if you don't get carried through for some of it. I had like 22 hours played before I finally was able to put my Rhino in the oven. Then the other frames all use pretty much the same mats so it's just a matter of farming zones you a'ready have access to. Plus those things start to just pile up once you're playing normally in the zones where they drop.

troublegum
Mar 31, 2013

Helter Skelter posted:

My favorite was when the game decided during a solo run that I needed to do a deception mission after finishing a spy objective.

The deception and spy datamasses don't stack.

:cripes: That must have been horrible.

Whoa. Wife Turds
Jan 23, 2004

FELLOW GOONS: WHEN THIS POSTER OFFERS TO BRAID YOUR PUBES, SAY NO!!!

echronorian posted:

Quick noob question here: I put together the rhino chassis in the foundry but I can't find where I equip it. When I go to the arsenal menu and highlight my current one (excalibur) it pulls up a menu for different builds. The rhino chassis still says I need 375 plat to unlock. Where do I find what I built?

A Warframe consists of a chassis, systems, and helmet. You must build all three pieces then buy the warframe blueprint from the market to assemble the three pieces. It sounds like you've only built one piece.

edit: hoo boy apparently the thread didn't refresh properly and I'm beaten like the Broncos

Barnacle Snatcher
Aug 19, 2006

All things began in order so shall they end, so shall they begin again according to the Ordainer of Order and the mystical mathematicks of the City of Heaven.

Rivensteel posted:

What's in a week?

Lightning Returns and I can get my weeaboo on. Until then, Im gonna continue to level mastery, almost rank 10, whee!

Metaprognosticate
Nov 10, 2013

Washin Tong posted:

I think getting Orokin Cells is actually harder since you need to get to Sargas Ruk in Saturn or get lucky with random drops.

Captain Vor on Mercury actually drops them sometimes. I played the mission a few times when I first started out and got 2 fairly early on as a result.

Giant Isopod
Jan 30, 2010

Bathynomus giganteus
Yams Fan

Helter Skelter posted:

My favorite was when the game decided during a solo run that I needed to do a deception mission after finishing a spy objective.

The deception and spy datamasses don't stack.

That happened to me on my very first spy mission, solo. I thought that's what all spy missions were like and avoided them forever.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Metaprognosticate posted:

Captain Vor on Mercury actually drops them sometimes. I played the mission a few times when I first started out and got 2 fairly early on as a result.

Orokin cells have a tiny chance of dropping from anything. Ruk is just the easier of the two bosses designated for cell dropping.

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES
Goons who've infiltrated the Design Council, is there any word on the clan contribution requirements for the airborne frame?

Synastren
Nov 8, 2005

Bad at Starcraft 2.
Better at psychology.
Psychology Megathread




By the way, where is the best place to get Neural Sensors now? Alad V got nerfed pretty hard, and those are what are bottlenecking my potato/forma creating.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

zgrowler2 posted:

Goons who've infiltrated the Design Council, is there any word on the clan contribution requirements for the airborne frame?
No, but I'd imagine it's along the same lines as other clan research projects. So we're probably gonna need 3k Oxium to start research on the drat thing.

Edit:

Synastren posted:

By the way, where is the best place to get Neural Sensors now? Alad V got nerfed pretty hard, and those are what are bottlenecking my potato/forma creating.
Just go run Elara for a while. Bosses are terrible for resource grinding.

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity
Killed the Stalker for the first time! :toot:

Goddamn host left right away like a moron and nobody got any loot from him, thanks to the host migration resetting everything! :argh:

Whoa. Wife Turds
Jan 23, 2004

FELLOW GOONS: WHEN THIS POSTER OFFERS TO BRAID YOUR PUBES, SAY NO!!!

Helter Skelter posted:

Just go run Elara for a while. Bosses are terrible for resource grinding.

This--with the caveat that I spent a combined 2 hours on Elara yesterday with zero drops but I just can't handle Salad Five's "Zanukaaa" cooing anymore and if I can't Kestrel him off the platform what's the point? :negative:

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES

Helter Skelter posted:

No, but I'd imagine it's along the same lines as other clan research projects. So we're probably gonna need 3k Oxium to start research on the drat thing.

drat. Well, I've got probably somewhere around 80-100 to contribute when that happens.

BarkingSquirrel
Sep 12, 2008

by Smythe

Helter Skelter posted:

My favorite was when the game decided during a solo run that I needed to do a deception mission after finishing a spy objective.

The deception and spy datamasses don't stack.
I've had that happen before. I ran that poo poo like a relay race. But I'm a stubborn son of a bitch and Lotus isn't my real mom.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Helter Skelter posted:

No, but I'd imagine it's along the same lines as other clan research projects. So we're probably gonna need 3k Oxium to start research on the drat thing.


3k would be nothing. 30k would be something.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Washin Tong posted:

I think getting Orokin Cells is actually harder since you need to get to Sargas Ruk in Saturn or get lucky with random drops. Control Modules were an issue when they only dropped from Hyena like 10% of the time, now they're extremely common if you just step into the void.

Resource grinding is a whole lot loving easier than it used to be with the addition of Endless defense mission, Survival missions, the Void, Invasions and Derelicts. Neurodes (Common Invasion Reward), Control Modules (Drops in ridiculous amounts in the void), Gallium and Morphics (Both pretty common despite being a "rare" mat) are all pretty easy to come by. Neural Sensors aren't too bad because I think they drop in pairs (a least they did for me on Elara last night when I got two pickups of two).

That leaves Orokin Cells as the king bitch for me if my whining over the last three pages is anything to go by. I've found that doing ODD/ODS/ODA missions are probably the best way to farm them. I've been totally hit or miss on doing survivals on Saturn and Ceres where I'll go 30-40 minutes and not get a single one. Interestingly enough I've had better success doing Saturn Defense missions than survival missions. I got three last night when I went to gently caress around with my new penta. Goons have told me that they are also an invasion reward so keep an eye out for them.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
Neural sensors can drop as singles. They're more annoying for me to farm than Orokin cells, but you also use way less, so they're less of a problem overall. Tons of things use 10 cells, but I think the most sensors I've seen in a recipe is 2. Neural sensors are never invasion/infestation rewards, in spite of the lore saying they're from infested enemies. gently caress Saturn, make them a rare drop from every infested unit or something.

Orokin cells are semi-frequently rewarded in sets of 3 from invasions. They also drop semi-rarely in ODD and decently frequently from Lephantis in ODA, in addition to Saturn/Ceres and various galaxy bosses.

Elysiume fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Feb 4, 2014

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Thrak helmet for rhino any good? Just got the blueprint on an alert.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

w00tmonger posted:

Thrak helmet for rhino any good? Just got the blueprint on an alert.

Yes, put it on and never take it off
Wait poo poo I was thinking Vanguard helmet. No, Thrack helmet is a terrible helmet.

Piell fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Feb 5, 2014

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

Piell posted:

Yes, put it on and never take it off
Vanguard helmet is better, but Thrak looks way cooler. I hope at some point DE lets us pick a helmet for stats and use a different one for looks. I know all the newer helmets are cosmetic only but that leaves the old legacy helmets in the dust.

Ice Fist posted:

Resource grinding is a whole lot loving easier than it used to be with the addition of Endless defense mission, Survival missions, the Void, Invasions and Derelicts.
I remember when Alloy Plates were hard to get. Grinding Jackal ~+50 plates at a time (if he decided to drop it instead of a BP or some other crafting mat) to build my Volt. :negative:

Washin Tong
Feb 16, 2011

Insert name here posted:

Vanguard helmet is better, but Thrak looks way cooler. I hope at some point DE lets us pick a helmet for stats and use a different one for looks. I know all the newer helmets are cosmetic only but that leaves the old legacy helmets in the dust.

I remember when Alloy Plates were hard to get. Grinding Jackal ~+50 plates at a time (if he decided to drop it instead of a BP or some other crafting mat) to build my Volt. :negative:

Yeah, I remember Rubedo and Alloy Plate being the old "bottleneck" uncommon resources. Like Control Modules however, the Void totally trivialized their farming process.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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They really need to make neural sensors drop somewhere else besides Jupiter cause that poo poo is annoying.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Yeah I just did 3 runs against salad vee and 2 15-minute survivals on Jupiter and didn't even get one. I don't know why all the new planets they added for awhile like Phobos or the Derelicts don't give them.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


I was lucky enough to pull out 7 neural sensors from a 30 minute Elara run. Also a Charged Chamber, I guess.

Then the "50+ wave ODD" turned into two people bailing at wave 20. Then the Stalker spawned on the other person and instantly killed them, but ate a death from my Penta before despawning and he dropped... Dread.

However I got the Harvester today and it dropped both of the parts I needed for Detron so that's cooking.

Now I just need to not get in a car wreck on the way to work tomorrow. gently caress YOU SNOW AND BEING ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL

Kaldaris
Aug 10, 2008

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Awesome possum!

Shugojin posted:

I was lucky enough to pull out 7 neural sensors from a 30 minute Elara run. Also a Charged Chamber, I guess.

Then the "50+ wave ODD" turned into two people bailing at wave 20. Then the Stalker spawned on the other person and instantly killed them, but ate a death from my Penta before despawning and he dropped... Dread.

However I got the Harvester today and it dropped both of the parts I needed for Detron so that's cooking.

Now I just need to not get in a car wreck on the way to work tomorrow. gently caress YOU SNOW AND BEING ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL

I feel like your avatar is the quintessential essence of this post that really ties the whole post together.

On that note, I still need Hate. What's the easiest way to 'farm' the Stalker?

dark_3y3
Sep 24, 2002

"Identity Crisis" Murderer.

Shugojin posted:

Now I just need to not get in a car wreck on the way to work tomorrow. gently caress YOU SNOW AND BEING ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL

You and me both. I'm not looking forward to tomorrow.

Vadun
Mar 9, 2011

I'm hungrier than a green snake in a sugar cane field.

How does elemental damage on weapons work? Can I just throw a fire mod on my lovely Lato and start burning dudes or does it need to have base fire damage already?

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

Vadun posted:

How does elemental damage on weapons work? Can I just throw a fire mod on my lovely Lato and start burning dudes or does it need to have base fire damage already?
It takes total damage and adds a percent of that again as elemental damage. So a Braton dealing 6/6/6 (18) damage with a Serration at 105% on it bringing it to 13/13/13 (39) with a Stormbringer at 75% will add 39 * .75 = 30 electric damage. The math seems kind of wonky because I think it's rounding weirdly.

So yes you can, there is no base fire damage required.

Elysiume fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Feb 5, 2014

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Elysiume posted:

It takes total damage and adds a percent of that again as elemental damage. So a Braton dealing 6/6/6 (18) damage with a Serration at 105% on it bringing it to 13/13/13 (39) with a Stormbringer at 75% will add 39 * .75 = 30 electric damage. The math seems kind of wonky because I think it's rounding weirdly.

The annoying thing is that all IPS (impact, puncture, slash) mods except for accelerated blast do NOT work this way. Instead, they go off of just that type of damage. So a Rupture mod at 30% on the same Braton will add only 13*0.30 = 3.9 damage. This is one of the reasons the IPS mods are totally useless.

Metaprognosticate
Nov 10, 2013
PC Potatoes

Despina, Neptune Invasion for Orokin Catalyst Blueprint

Halimede, Neptune Invasion for Orokin Reactor Blueprint



Probably around an hour left if you hurry.

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Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Metaprognosticate posted:

PC Potatoes

Despina, Neptune Invasion for Orokin Catalyst Blueprint

Halimede, Neptune Invasion for Orokin Reactor Blueprint



Probably around an hour left if you hurry.

Just about to wrap up and hit the sack when I check that warframe tracker thing. Finally got my orokin cell reward - but it's opposite a potato. :negative:

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