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Rebochan
Feb 2, 2006

Take my evolution

Miss Wallace posted:

That's for babies.

...goddammit, I'd just finished blocking that from my memory and you dredged it up again :bahgawd:

I'm getting the Disneyland ad from last year again too. It's even the exact same ad from last year! Can't they film new Disney ads with their...millions of mouse dollars!?

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cubs2084
Feb 2, 2009
I have ad block and NoScript and the like disabled for blip sites. Yet lately I've been going right to the video sans ad, or I'll get one of the ads and not the other if they have an ad break in the middle. It's doing the same thing on my phone and at my work computer, which has neither of the previously mentioned add ons installed. And I'm in Chicago, so I don't have the "not cost effective for foreign ads" excuse. I don't know why, since I'm firmly on the side of watch the ads to support people I like.

RustyTrombone
Oct 23, 2007

by zen death robot
I use adblock because I don't care if the content creators get paid.

rjryan3
Oct 10, 2012

RustyTrombone posted:

I use adblock because I don't care if the content creators get paid.

You know that this is probably their primary source of revenue, right? And that the majority of them, including Doug Walker, can be described as lower middle class at best?

Or is this :thejoke:?

rjryan3 fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Feb 4, 2014

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009

I've got multiple exceptions for blip on my Adblock but I never get ads on anyone's work... Not sure if it's because I fail at whitelisting things or just because I'm Australian.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
It's just a region thing. I sometimes don't get any in Canada as the rotation doesn't always have ads.

Deofuta
Jul 7, 2013

The Corps is Mother
The Corps is Father
None of those sound nearly as terrible as the Denny's ads. For a pretty silly diner location they make some really goofy ads that insist Denny's is not only something most Americans go to, it's something they should go to, if they are indeed true patriots™. I think NC did a drat segment on one of their worst offenders.

Deofuta fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Feb 4, 2014

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !
Yeah, Blip advertising is currently focused on the US, Canada and the UK. Mainland Europe will get a string of ads once in a blue moon, but Australia isn't even on the radar as far as I can tell.

Additionally, what type of videos you watch are a factor too. Blip can sell more ads if a video is rated universal or PG. That's why some producers will occasionally bleep their own stuff.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

rjryan3 posted:

You know that this is probably their primary source of revenue, right? And that the majority of them, including Doug Walker, can be described as lower middle class at best?

Or is this :thejoke:?

He was probably making a joke but that's basically what I think. I don't know any of them even remotely personally so it doesn't matter to me if they don't make money. :shrug: Internet personalities are a dime a dozen.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



I am waiting patiently for the last season of charmed by Lupa, it's going to be glorious. :allears:

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy

Genocyber posted:

I don't know any of them even remotely personally so it doesn't matter to me... Internet personalities are a dime a dozen.

Man, that's what I tried telling the judge but the bastard still put me in jail for running over a few with my car.

Zedd posted:

I am waiting patiently for the last season of charmed by Lupa, it's going to be glorious. :allears:

I am mildly terrified at the thought of how many parts it's going to be. :ohdear:

dijon du jour fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Feb 4, 2014

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
It's just going to consist of a link to the Netflix page for the season.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Spoony reviews Lethal Games. "Starring" Frank Stallone.

Wo would have thought the pinnacle of comedy would be reading off a list of real porn titles?

Zedd posted:

I am waiting patiently for the last season of charmed by Lupa, it's going to be glorious. :allears:

I really want to know how they top PMS Werewolves.

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Feb 4, 2014

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007


I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem

BigRed0427 posted:

Wo would have thought the pinnacle of comedy would be reading off a list of real porn titles?
I agree, Brad Jones' reading (and appreciation) of different porn titles was the best part.

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!

BigRed0427 posted:

I really want to know how they top PMS Werewolves.
"We've got to save innocents"
"If we're exposed we'll never be able to save an innocent again!"
^ actual Charmed season 8 dialogue, slightly paraphrased.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Tarquinn posted:

I agree, Brad Jones' reading (and appreciation) of different porn titles was the best part.

The best parts were when he was like "Oh, I've got that one! :haw:" That was also a touching JewWario tribute at the very end too.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

Miss Wallace posted:

"We've got to save innocents"
"If we're exposed we'll never be able to save an innocent again!"
^ actual Charmed season 8 dialogue, slightly paraphrased.

*Smash cut to a press conference.*

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Miss Wallace posted:

"We've got to save innocents"
"If we're exposed we'll never be able to save an innocent again!"
^ actual Charmed season 8 dialogue, slightly paraphrased.

Ehh, isn't that half the show so far?

Edit: Actually, just understanding that line. That does almost top it.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
And Nicolas Cage month ends with Ghost Rider

Caution: Show That Must Not Be Named

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!

BigRed0427 posted:

Ehh, isn't that half the show so far?

Edit: Actually, just understanding that line. That does almost top it.

Season 8 is probably the worst concerning the Charmed Ones just not giving a flying flip. Even Paige is hideous in her behavior.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."
I've never watched an episode of Charmed nor Baywatch, but your reviews of these shows are my favorite things you've done (even edging out ol' Radu and the Amazing Bulk).

I hope to enjoy them for a long time to come. :allears:

cubs2084
Feb 2, 2009
Brad Jones listens to me and releases a far more manageable 20 minute version of his and Jake's 10 worst movies of 2013 video.

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy
Lindsay Ellis is mildly perturbed about Frozen.
(Original artiblargsoangry.)

I... I'm not really sure why that particular article got Lindsay's dander up so much. It is a piece that is very obviously borne from Tumblr's vile orifices. The original article mostly consists of the author refuting lovely arguments with their own, equally lovely arguments. Tumblr begetting Tumblr. Arguments that will echo off into the blogosphere to be heard by nobody of real importance, quickly forgotten as soon as a new episode of Sherlock comes out.

New Snob episode, too.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Aww I want to read Ellis' review but I've also been judiciously avoiding the plot of Frozen based on all the good word of mouth.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Miss Wallace posted:

Season 8 is probably the worst concerning the Charmed Ones just not giving a flying flip. Even Paige is hideous in her behavior.

I'm honestly not entirely sure exactly how Charmed was able to pull better ratings than Angel (which I believe was on the same network), but as far as I'm aware, it managed it.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Metal Loaf posted:

I'm honestly not entirely sure exactly how Charmed was able to pull better ratings than Angel (which I believe was on the same network), but as far as I'm aware, it managed it.

Marketing hot women in skimpy outfits, I'm willing to bet.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

mind the walrus posted:

Marketing hot women in skimpy outfits, I'm willing to bet.

But the girls on Angel were hotter? Plus David Boreanaz before he got fat! :swoon:

I'd actually bet the real answer is that Angel was heavily, heavily serialised for most of it's run. Only seasons 1 and 5 don't have lengthy running plots, and even they have lots of arc-y stuff. Charmed seems to be mostly episodic from watching Lupa's recaps/reviews.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

No, I'm seriously betting on the marketing. I distinctly remember being a teen around that time and seeing loads of ads EVERY week revolving around the skimpy outfits the girls were getting into.

The serialization of Angel didn't help at all of course, but there's also the fact that they weren't pimping Cordellia, Fred, and Lilah in skimpy outfits every week.

LFK
Jan 5, 2013

dijon du jour posted:

I... I'm not really sure why that particular article got Lindsay's dander up so much. It is a piece that is very obviously borne from Tumblr's vile orifices. The original article mostly consists of the author refuting lovely arguments with their own, equally lovely arguments. Tumblr begetting Tumblr. Arguments that will echo off into the blogosphere to be heard by nobody of real importance, quickly forgotten as soon as a new episode of Sherlock comes out.

Judging from Twitter it's that the article builds a trap where a female character is never "good enough" to live up to "the agenda." A character with no flaws is a terrible character and decried as a Mary Sue, but now characters with proper flaws aren't "feminist" enough? It's not the first time I've seen that line of reasoning, and I sincerely doubt it's the first time she has, so my guess would be that this particular article, emblematic of that train of thought, happened to be the one that got stuck in her craw. It's the missing McNugget that represents every previous time you got short changed on your McNuggets. It's a very specific response, but it's also a very general response to the concept that movies have to pass The Ideological Checklist to be "good enough."

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Charmed was basically a pillar of WB programming, like think Smallville but with a show based around 3 women that dealt with every day women issue like motherhood back when there were very shows that did this. You really couldn't watch the WB without every other commercial slamming it down on you to watch Charmed later tonight.

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011
In other news, JO started her review of Attack on Titan.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

mind the walrus posted:

No, I'm seriously betting on the marketing. I distinctly remember being a teen around that time and seeing loads of ads EVERY week revolving around the skimpy outfits the girls were getting into.

The serialization of Angel didn't help at all of course, but there's also the fact that they weren't pimping Cordellia, Fred, and Lilah in skimpy outfits every week.

Yeah, pretty much every Charmed commercial was about how hot the Charmed Ones were going to be that week. That and the post Spice Girls version of Girl Power.

On the other hand Angel was marketed as action horror with the emphasis in the commercials on what freaky monster was showing up this week. Or on how totally awesome the fight was going to be.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

It's almost disappointing how no one managed to cobble together a reel of all the skimpy gimmick outfit Charmed commercials because they did those like every week for five straight years.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
I never saw Charmed but I watched Angel on the Space Channel. Season 5 was the best cause they basically flipped their own chess table over and rewrote the rules of the show, plus it had some of the most quality stand alone episodes in either series. (Buffy included)

LFK posted:

Judging from Twitter it's that the article builds a trap where a female character is never "good enough" to live up to "the agenda." A character with no flaws is a terrible character and decried as a Mary Sue, but now characters with proper flaws aren't "feminist" enough? It's not the first time I've seen that line of reasoning, and I sincerely doubt it's the first time she has, so my guess would be that this particular article, emblematic of that train of thought, happened to be the one that got stuck in her craw. It's the missing McNugget that represents every previous time you got short changed on your McNuggets. It's a very specific response, but it's also a very general response to the concept that movies have to pass The Ideological Checklist to be "good enough."

I really hate "feminism" because I've met all of one person in my entire life who is actively trying to change things for the better in regards to gender equality, while everybody else who's ever brought it up around me has used it as a tool, a metric, an agenda, a criticism, a weapon, an insult, basically everything that surrounds the word itself without engaging with the ideals behind the word.

I'm comfortable enough with using gender as a way to inform one of a person's potential characteristics, not to define them. That's really as far as I'm willing to engage with the issue, since everybody else seems ready to really ignite a flamewar over every little thing at all related to the concept, which is nearly everything anyway.

Jay O
Oct 9, 2012

being a zombie's not so bad
once you get used to it

Not really looking forward to fan reaction to the second half. Or more accurately, non-fan reaction, as that show is divisive because it's popular, and for once it's not the zealous fans I'm worried about, it's the zealous dissenters. Which never happens. But man, the stuff from the thumbs-down gallery on this show...

There's a weirdly frequent criticism that "Attack on Titan's characters are too over-dramatic and illogical" which I address in the second half of the review. Aaaaaand I tend to sum it up as BEEP BOOP WHAT IS HUMANITY, WHAT ARE CHARACTER FLAWS. These characters are 15-year olds, and they're riding a rollercoaster that only goes downhill. Of course they're emotional and unstable. Frankly I'm really bored of the "big drat heroes" and quippity-quip-quip "hot sociopath" Sherlock characters nerddom is obsessed with these days. I like it when genre fiction can explore broken people who do wrong things that they regret, but sometimes don't even learn from.

I wrote that before seeing the comments section/twitter response for the video. Which in the case of dissent to the review's praise is *all* that argument. All of it. It's 100% "Eren is a whiny babby who makes poor decisions and things only get worse for everybody," etc. --> (~that's the point~) If that's not your bag, that's fine, but it's not a valid criticism of the material. Writing it off as "over-dramatic and emotional" is kinda depressing, frankly. Where's the empathy for people just being people, without the nerd-bait Whedon-y nonchalance?

I don't have any reason to change the script addressing this, but boooooy is it not gonna win me any fans, because apparently it's a bigger bandwagon criticism than even I gauged.

Jay O fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Feb 5, 2014

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

SatansBestBuddy posted:

I never saw Charmed but I watched Angel on the Space Channel. Season 5 was the best cause they basically flipped their own chess table over and rewrote the rules of the show, plus it had some of the most quality stand alone episodes in either series. (Buffy included)

It's a joke in the catch-all Joss Whedon thread how every so often someone just comes in and goes "Angel Season 5 :allears:" because it really is one of the best things the Whedon name has ever been attached to; with Buffy, Firefly, and the Avengers included in that sentence. There are some underwhelming stand-alones, the subplot with Angel's werewolf girlfriend just peters out because of the cancellation, even though he's great it's still hard not to feel Spike-fatigue, and the back half of course feels rushed (again due to the cancellation), but I've rarely been so effortlessly intrigued by a Whedon project the way I was by Angel Season 5.

For those who don't know (tagging a decade-old TV show): Angel and his team become the heads of an evil multi-dimensional demonic law firm that played antagonists in the first four seasons. The entire season is about trying to do good from within the belly of the epicenter of pure evil, and using those evil resources for good.


Jay O posted:

Not really looking forward to fan reaction to the second half. Or more accurately, non-fan reaction, as that show is divisive because it's popular, and for once it's not the zealous fans I'm worried about, it's the zealous dissenters. Which never happens. But man, the stuff from the thumbs-down gallery on this show...

There's a weirdly frequent criticism that "Attack on Titan's characters are too over-dramatic and illogical" which I address in the second half of the review. Aaaaaand I tend to sum it up as BEEP BOOP WHAT IS HUMANITY, WHAT ARE CHARACTER FLAWS. These characters are 15-year olds, and they're riding a rollercoaster that only goes downhill. Of course they're emotional and unstable. Frankly I'm really bored of the "big drat heroes" and quippity-quip-quip "hot sociopath" Sherlock characters nerddom is obsessed with these days. I like it when genre fiction can explore broken people who do wrong things that they regret, but sometimes don't even learn from.

I wrote that before seeing the comments section/twitter response for the video. Which in the case of dissent to the review's praise is *all* that argument. All of it. It's 100% "Eren is a whiny babby who makes poor decisions and things only get worse for everybody," etc. --> (~that's the point~) If that's not your bag, that's fine, but it's not a valid criticism of the material. Writing it off as "over-dramatic and emotional" is kinda depressing, frankly. Where's the empathy for people just being people, without the nerd-bait Whedon-y nonchalance?

I don't have any reason to change the script addressing this, but boooooy is it not gonna win me any fans, because apparently it's a bigger bandwagon criticism than even I gauged.

You're right JO, and it's a pity that you're not going to be able to convince people set in their ways. It's partially a symptom of people being invested in wanting to see the characters and situation of humanity improve and being unable to accept that no, this series isn't interested in giving easy answers or resolution. It's actually what I think threatens to undo the entire series, as having caught up with the manga I'm increasingly wondering just how this could be resolved in a satisfying way. It's much the same problem I have with the Song of Ice and Fire series. No, a series doesn't have to end in a satisfying way of course, but it's hard not to want it to after so much investment.

You also make a good point about the whole "big drat heroes" thing. I actually like Whedon-y characters, as you can tell from my words above, but I think they're just one type of character that can be used and it's not just interesting but downright healthy to see characters in art that act as a mirror for the dirty little secret we all like to ignore-- part of our humanity means sometimes we just flat-out suck and mess things up and are literally incapable changing or making things better because we were broken somewhere along the line. I have less love for the whole "hot sociopath" thing, although that more has to do with the idolization of such characters than the characters themselves, simply because more vocal fans always seem to miss the point that such people are more akin to zoo exhibits than people you'd ever want to actually be like (but hey they're really stylish!).

I also had a hearty chuckle at your "finally not sexist source material!" joke. Thanks for that.

mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Feb 5, 2014

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
It's been 20 years since Evangelion, I don't think you're ever going to convince people that young kids with tons of bad poo poo happening to them makes them unstable is actually a realistic reaction.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

mind the walrus posted:

No, a series doesn't have to end in a satisfying way of course, but it's hard not to want it to after so much investment.

I haven't watched Attack On Titan but after the past few months of watching the WWE, I REALLY understand this. Although i'm not sure you can compare a manga to pro wrestling, The WWE actively is making me seek something new that I can invest myself in and get that warm, fuzzy feeling that means "Wow, everything is going to be ok". I think for anyone who is a fan of anything it's hard to see the hero fall flat on his face and show that he is just human.

I want to word that better, but I don't know how. Guess that's why i'm not the one who does reviews on the internet..

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Feb 5, 2014

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Jay O posted:

I wrote that before seeing the comments section/twitter response for the video. Which in the case of dissent to the review's praise is *all* that argument. All of it. It's 100% "Eren is a whiny babby who makes poor decisions and things only get worse for everybody," etc. --> (~that's the point~) If that's not your bag, that's fine, but it's not a valid criticism of the material. Writing it off as "over-dramatic and emotional" is kinda depressing, frankly. Where's the empathy for people just being people, without the nerd-bait Whedon-y nonchalance?

I just don't understand how anyone can be against Eren's poor decisions. That boy commits to his decisions with a furor that would make religious fanatics uneasy. I don't think hate has ever been this entertaining. Though hate is too weak a word for his feelings toward Titans.

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Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011

Gyges posted:

I just don't understand how anyone can be against Eren's poor decisions. That boy commits to his decisions with a furor that would make religious fanatics uneasy.
As well they should be, considering that one building in Stohess.

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