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jtm33 posted:Nah it wouldn't Atlus don't publish outside of Japan/NA so they are by far not the greatest choice of publisher. They're doing an EU release of Conception 2 (albeit digital only), so hopefully that's the first step in changing that.
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Artix posted:They're doing an EU release of Conception 2 (albeit digital only), so hopefully that's the first step in changing that. Oh right I forgot about that! Yeah that's a promising sign.
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I think Atlus just doesn't want to or can't afford(especially prior to the Sega buyout) setting up a European division. It's probably easier for them to license out to companies like NISA or Ghostlight than bother with the hassle of setting up an office. They probably couldn't actually run a dedicated Atlus office and charge reasonable prices in Europe. Atlus USA was probably able to stay afloat because they localize and publish non Atlus games in the US/Canada as an independent company wholly owned by Index. If they were to move into Europe, they would be stepping on the toes of other companies already established by not only publishing Atlus games, but other series as well. By putting out Conception II as a digital only title, they only have to send a couple files to Nintendo/Sony and it's done. No arranging for special CDs, no special artbooks, and no paying European wages/taxes for another office. Just the game in English. Now that I think about it: Since Conception 2 is not an Atlus game, any other company that would want to localize it would have to create their own English version from scratch (VAs and all) and not be able to use the AtlusUSA localization without some pretty big licensing issues. It's possible none of the other localization companies wanted to put in the time and effort and passed on it.
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I know the whole Megaten Universe continuity is up for debate in a lot of ways, but I was listening to some discussions that took place before SMT IV and now I'm kind of interested in finding out where SMT IV fits in it all. I assumed the Demonica Armor being in the game means it has some relation to Strange Journey, but obviously nothing is canon©. Also, I just beat SMT IV with the Neutral ending, so I got pretty pumped. Very good game, and now I'm trying to decide whether to play Strange Journey or Soul Hackers. Soul Hackers was really kicking my rear end last I played it.
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hubris.height posted:I know the whole Megaten Universe continuity is up for debate in a lot of ways, but I was listening to some discussions that took place before SMT IV and now I'm kind of interested in finding out where SMT IV fits in it all. I assumed the Demonica Armor being in the game means it has some relation to Strange Journey, but obviously nothing is canon©. I think it's pretty clear that it's totally separate and the Demonica is just a tease. They go into the how the Demonica armor got developed in both SJ and SMT IV and they're both totally different. (One was a general-purpose survival suit, the other was specifically engineered for fighting demons) Atlus just loves putting those sorts of shout-outs in their games.
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Feb 3, 2014 21:37
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http://pastebin.com/MjztBvGB While we're all waiting for Persona 4 Arena 2 to come out, here's a constantly updated document with the win quotes from Arcade Mode.
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Feb 3, 2014 22:56
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Eh, of course Yosuke and Junpei would hit it off. And their respective Shadows are dick to the other. Shadow Yu, on the other hand is nightmarishly brutal.
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Feb 3, 2014 23:14
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Do we know yet if Elizabeth is in P4A2, and if she has a Shadow form? On the one hand she does not have a traditional Persona, and is already kinda psychotic anyway, on the other hand it would be really interesting to see what a creepier, more insane Elizabeth would look like.
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projecthalaxy posted:Do we know yet if Elizabeth is in P4A2, and if she has a Shadow form? On the one hand she does not have a traditional Persona, and is already kinda psychotic anyway, on the other hand it would be really interesting to see what a creepier, more insane Elizabeth would look like. She's back without a shadow form AFIK. One of her random end quotes in P4A even says something along the lines of "I'll see you next week." People are more focused on the new characters, so a lot of dialog won't appear for a while.
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Feb 3, 2014 23:49
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Junpei's quote vs. Elizabeth: "A long time ago...I put my life on the line. There was a thorn in a beautiful rose, or, now, nothing but a thorn......" Chidori. 
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Dehry posted:She's back without a shadow form AFIK. One of her random end quotes in P4A even says something along the lines of "I'll see you next week." People are more focused on the new characters, so a lot of dialog won't appear for a while. I figured as much. She was my favorite character to play as in Arena, as well as one of the best parts of P3 in my opinion. I loved how in Arena the P4 navigators would just be confused as to who this weird girl was while P3 navigators are actively terrified due to her super-boss status. E: ApplesandOranges posted:Junpei's quote vs. Elizabeth: Chidori's sacrifice for Junpei's life was such a touching and poignant scene in P3, but I can't decide if it was made better or worse by the fact that seconds earlier, he had to look on as his friends and allies stabbed, speared, shot and electrified her, culminating in a brutal stomping to death (all out attack). Really messed with the poor kid's head no doubt. projecthalaxy fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Feb 3, 2014 23:56
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"Hehe, not bad, huh. But, no one can win when I've got my love for Chidori!" She's still alive in FES/Portable, she just doesn't remember anything after her persona awakened  . He probably still visits her, even if she doesn't remember him.
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Dehry posted:
It's a pretty great thing they added. I like to imagine they fell in love again
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I found it a bit of a cop out, actually. It kinds of negate both her sacrifice and Junpei's resolution to live for her sakes. And it's non canon. She's confirmed as dead in The Answer, and The Answer is canon.
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Iceclaw posted:I found it a bit of a cop out, actually. It kinds of negate both her sacrifice and Junpei's resolution to live for her sakes. And it's non canon. She's confirmed as dead in The Answer, and The Answer is canon. The answer only has him say he wouldn't go back and change what happened to her
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projecthalaxy posted:Do we know yet if Elizabeth is in P4A2, and if she has a Shadow form? On the one hand she does not have a traditional Persona, and is already kinda psychotic anyway, on the other hand it would be really interesting to see what a creepier, more insane Elizabeth would look like. She's in the game but does not have a Shadow form as of current patch. She is worse to play than she was in original, unfortunately. Edit: I can run to the arcade and compile a list of story and arcade win dialogue probably. I haven't played since a week or two ago, but current patch only changed frame data iirc.
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http://pepsimangb.tumblr.com/post/75579145179/and-heres-the-complete-and-final-version-of-the Here's a translated version of an interview with Katsura Hashino, the Persona series director. Not much new info, but a few tidbits about the theme of P5. Apparently our interface will be red this time.
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Feb 5, 2014 12:10
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They already used red for the Innocent Sin remake. Looks like they didn't plan ahead very well!
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That is all new info to me. I find it interesting he is talking about the games color as an important part of the overall theme of the game, and this is really exciting to hear. Sounds like they really want to make something with an overarching theme and message. I'm sure that those desks / chains are going to be a thing we see a lot in the game, perhaps every character will have a scene with it? Anyone know of a good Let's Play of Last Bible or Persona 1/2.1/2.2, preferably by someone who is explaining the plot as they go, making some commentary, and is good at critical thinking?
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I've been reading the 'Devil Gene' manga of SMTIV and is an odd mix of silliness and the usual grimness of the series, the plot is also weird since Flynn just shows on a few panels, Walter is the main character and we got a new character taking Flynn's place. Is an interesting take on SMTIV story though.
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hubris.height posted:Anyone know of a good Let's Play of Last Bible or Persona 1/2.1/2.2, preferably by someone who is explaining the plot as they go, making some commentary, and is good at critical thinking? http://lparchive.org/Persona-2-Eternal-Punishment/ There's one for EP. There aren't any SA LPs of the other ones. People were discussing it in the P4A LP but it's going to be a time consuming thing, and for us modern fans it's hard to go back to the old games.
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Innocent Sin has aged pretty well, IMO. Persona 1 is extremely LP-worthy because the story outweighs any reeding qualities of the gameplay. Yes, even in the portable version.
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I loving love Persona 1 and 2, but they are very old-school in design and gameplay style. Still, I would say that of all the Persona games, 1 and 2 are the only ones that I felt created really believable settings. Much as I like Persona 3 and 4, Port Island and Inaba don't feel like truly living places, while Mikage really gave me the impression of a dying industrial town while Sumaru felt like a booming city. Sumaru especially, with the various neighbourhoods and poo poo-ton of NPCs, felt a lot more real. They also had a somewhat darker atmosphere, closer in feel to 90s horror movies and anime. But the gameplay is extremely antiquated, yes. Especially in 1.
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I played a lot of the PSOne Revelations: Persona, but only of the first 5 hours or so, because I rented a PSX and never had a memory card. I recall my mother's reaction being, "What the hell is this?" at the time. It really was a good game at the time, and very new compared to the rest of the American Market at the time, but its a lot like the SNES SMT in that its hard to get back into after years of progress in how JRPGs are played.
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hubris.height posted:I played a lot of the PSOne Revelations: Persona, but only of the first 5 hours or so, because I rented a PSX and never had a memory card. I recall my mother's reaction being, "What the hell is this?" at the time. It really was a good game at the time, and very new compared to the rest of the American Market at the time, but its a lot like the SNES SMT in that its hard to get back into after years of progress in how JRPGs are played. That was the first SMT game I played. When Persona 3 was first announced, and trailers made it look really cool, I managed to get a copy of the first game for cheap in anticipation. I really liked it, warts and all, although learning of the removed/changed content pissed me off a little. And then the PSP remake came out and all was well!
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Hey is P4 Arena Ultimax believed to be a sequel to the current one or just like an ultimate edition? Like would there be new story content or is it the same story making the current version totally obsolete?
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epitasis posted:Hey is P4 Arena Ultimax believed to be a sequel to the current one or just like an ultimate edition? Like would there be new story content or is it the same story making the current version totally obsolete? Apparently, we're going to get a continuation of Arena's story but I haven't kept up with it too closely, so I don't know if they're going to do a quick re-cap.
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epitasis posted:Hey is P4 Arena Ultimax believed to be a sequel to the current one or just like an ultimate edition? Like would there be new story content or is it the same story making the current version totally obsolete? It's a sequel. My guess is they'll do a re-cap, but I'm not entirely sure; they might just do something like they do with BlazBlue.
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P4A2 takes place a few days after P4A(Elizabeth says 'next week' in one of her win quotes.) The midnight channel broadcasts again, shows the P3 cast from the last game being crucified, promotes another fighting tournament, then a red fog covers Inaba, putting it into the dark hour(or something like it.)
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I desperately want there to be a fan theory in which Snowboard Kids and Snowboard Kids 2 are considered in the SMT universe. edit: Black Frost was unlockable in Snowboard Kids 2 IIRC. VVVVVVVV hubris.height fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Feb 6, 2014 |
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hubris.height posted:I desperately want there to be a fan theory in which Snowboard Kids and Snowboard Kids 2 are considered in the SMT universe.
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Friday Persona Q promotional videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTi-egBGfnk Yukari https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7Q7aLU_ww Junpei A.K.A. "The Four Eyed Samurai." 
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They really got Junpei nailed with that. "Where am I? What's going on? Oh wait, sword, Shadows, hot chicks, don't care anymore, HERO TIME!"
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In translation news, Megami Tensei 1's finally gotten a translation! (Although they said in their thread that they won't release it until the next anniversary, probably to test if there's any bugs or something). I bet the next fan translation of a SMT game will be in around 5 years. 
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Booky posted:In translation news, Megami Tensei 1's finally gotten a translation! (Although they said in their thread that they won't release it until the next anniversary, probably to test if there's any bugs or something). Ugh my eyes are bleeding looking at Megami Tensei. I shouldn't bash on it too much because it was probably nicer at the time, but those same-y textures are kind of hard to look at. What hasn't been translated at this point? Off the top of my head, Megami Tensei 2, Devil Summoner 1 (but who cares about that), Majin Tensei, and the Last Bible games?
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Booky posted:In translation news, Megami Tensei 1's finally gotten a translation! (Although they said in their thread that they won't release it until the next anniversary, probably to test if there's any bugs or something). A 32-character password? 
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ChaosArgate posted:Ugh my eyes are bleeding looking at Megami Tensei. I shouldn't bash on it too much because it was probably nicer at the time, but those same-y textures are kind of hard to look at. I think a couple of people want to play DS1, actually. It looks interesting enough. And I think KMT, the rest of the Majin Tensei games, the 3rd Digital Devil Story book, and all of NDDS are waiting for translations too. I might be missing some, though. Strange Quark posted:A 32-character password? Look, back in the olden days, there wasn't any fancy stuff like save files. You wanted to load a save, you had better write the password down. 
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ChaosArgate posted:Ugh my eyes are bleeding looking at Megami Tensei. I shouldn't bash on it too much because it was probably nicer at the time, but those same-y textures are kind of hard to look at. Persona 2: Tatsuyaventures, man! Bugs me that Atlus won't even say why they can't release EP PSP here, just "something something license contracts whatever." Maybe they can't say why they can't say? 
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 My favorite part of MT1 is the fusion table. All those asterisks result in Fairy Dryad.
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Captain Walker posted:Persona 2: Tatsuyaventures, man! Probably had to do with some Index contracts that went under, as well as poor sales. Some people were saying it might also have something to do with some music in the game. Safe to say it will never come out stateside. People are actively working on a fan translation, though.
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