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I think we need to start a free agency thread since its taking over the draft thread.
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defiantgiant posted:I'd love to get Bennett, but I would not be mad about Lamarr Houston at all. Granted, the Raiders are about to have a ton of cap space ($59 million, holy poo poo,) so they might be able to re-sign him. If Chicago could pry him away, though, he'd be an ideal LE and nickel-package DT, just like Bennett. I'm not sure that the D-line needs a "rebuild" considering how injury plagued the Bears were. I think Wootton-Paea-Melton or Collins-??? is more than serviceable. DE should be a priority in the draft though e- Agree with you conceptually but I think the secondary is going to be this year's project
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Feb 5, 2014 04:20
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swickles posted:I think we need to start a free agency thread since its taking over the draft thread. Yes, good. I want to talk about CFL players the Ravens gave tryouts.
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Feb 5, 2014 04:35
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Who's the weed guy that's going to fall out of the first/second in this draft? There's always a weed guy and I want him on my team.
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Feb 5, 2014 04:44
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cujojp posted:Tony loving Romo
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Feb 5, 2014 05:01
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Romo's cap number is the largest of all QBs but we all know he'll get restructured and they'll convert that base salary into a signing bonus. It's not really a problem for Dallas this year.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:35
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DupaDupa posted:I'm going to be so mad when the Seahawks resign Bennett. If it makes you feel any better, they don't currently have cap space for rookies, so...
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Feb 5, 2014 09:10
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The raiders have sixty million in cap space? 
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Feb 5, 2014 14:34
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ZenVulgarity posted:The raiders have sixty million in cap space? Amazing things happen when you suddenly have $50 million worth of dead money coming off the books
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Feb 5, 2014 14:37
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cujojp posted:Tony loving Romo Romo's not the problem. A declining Ware and perpetually injured Austin are the biggest issues. Cutting Austin is a no-brainer. They should also make Ware a June 1st cut as well considering his production the last 2 years vs. his cap hit, which would give them enough cap space to at least sign their draft picks, but knowing Jerry he will probably do something stupid like extend him instead.
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Feb 5, 2014 14:55
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Is Miles Austin a worthwhile FA to pursue or is the man just done?
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Feb 5, 2014 15:07
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Is Miles Austin a worthwhile FA to pursue or is the man just done? He'll probably pull a hamstring while getting up after signing a contract.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:21
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Is Miles Austin a worthwhile FA to pursue or is the man just done? He has ongoing persistent hamstring injuries. While Austin's hamstring issues at this point are basically a running joke with Cowboys fans, the sad truth of the matter is that once you have a hamstring injury and that damage is done, even after recovery it increases your likelihood for reoccurance. Austin would be a prime example of this. He would probably be worth a vet minimum contract, but not much more than that.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:24
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Rasczak posted:Here's a preview of how active Dallas is expected to be in free agency If I understand that, the Colts and Packers have a lot of spending ability for improvement. Especially the Colts for how far they went in the post. The Raiders could practically double their team or something.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:27
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Vet min is what I'd figure the Ravens would offer. Ozzie Newsome loves to sign himself some fresh cut cap casualties. If the guy comes in and does nothing at that price its no big deal. I'm going to be honest and say that I haven't seen enough of Miles playing to know what type of receiver he is but if he has sure hands on third downs its a worth a gamble. Especially if it frees us up for more BPA in the draft. This does not mean I don't want the Ravens to draft a receiver out of this absurdly deep class. If we can grab Austin with a chance of him contributing then I would be comfortable with drafting only one receiver this year instead of three.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:31
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Rasczak posted:They should also make Ware a June 1st cut as well considering his production the last 2 years vs. his cap hit You mean 11.5 sacks in 2012 and 6 sacks in 2013 due to playing on the world's shittiest defense with a ton of nagging injuries?
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Feb 5, 2014 15:51
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A guy can play well and still be no where near worth their cap hit, e.g. Haloti Ngata.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:58
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The Puppy Bowl posted:A guy can play well and still be no where near worth their cap hit, e.g. Haloti Ngata. Or Joe Flacco. Wait you said good. 
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Feb 5, 2014 16:08
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Flacco is absolutely not worth his hit and it doesn't bother me even a little. Best Baltimore QB since Unitas. I waited so long for Joe Flacco to come along that now that he's here he can do no wrong. I wouldn't trade him for anyone or anything
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Feb 5, 2014 16:12
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Toymachine posted:You mean 11.5 sacks in 2012 and 6 sacks in 2013 due to playing on the world's shittiest defense with a ton of nagging injuries? Yes, I know, when considering a player's production on defense nothing should be considered other than SACKS, but that said - He counts 16 (SIXTEEN) million against the cap this year and the Cowboys are currently 25.9 mil over the cap - he's 32 years old and on the decline - He's been constantly injured the last 2 seasons - He was 12th on the team in tackles this season. Keeping in mind that only 11 guys can be on the field at any given time. - He posted a career low 6 sacks this past season, if that's what you care so much about. Ware is still a good player, and he would be a good pickup for another team in free agency if signed to a reasonable, incentive-laden contract. He is not, however, a 16 million-per-year player anymore, and since he's on the decline it's not a great idea to restructure and extend him like Jerry will probably do.
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Feb 5, 2014 16:32
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Vet min is what I'd figure the Ravens would offer. Ozzie Newsome loves to sign himself some fresh cut cap casualties. If the guy comes in and does nothing at that price its no big deal. I'm going to be honest and say that I haven't seen enough of Miles playing to know what type of receiver he is but if he has sure hands on third downs its a worth a gamble. Especially if it frees us up for more BPA in the draft. Austin is a good route-runner who relies on his speed to get open and get YAC. He is not very physical and probably won't win many jump ball battles. His hands are pretty good, although he has had his share of drops. He is effective lined out outside and in the slot, however, and would be a good pickup for pretty much any team on a vet minimum contract.
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Feb 5, 2014 16:41
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Ware is at a point where reducing his snaps some probably makes his production go up and extends the useful years of his career, but the Cowboys have no depth in the front 7 and their defensive strategy seems awful, so if he stays he's probably run into the ground and wasted because Cowboys.
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Feb 5, 2014 17:01
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And again, you're talking about reducing snaps for a guy whose cap hit is 16 mil in 2014, 17.5 mil in 2015, 14 mil in 2016, and 14 mil in 2017 (unless you restructure and extend him, but he's 32 years old and on the decline, so that's not a great idea). It's just a lovely situation for everyone involved.
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Feb 5, 2014 17:38
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Rasczak posted:And again, you're talking about reducing snaps for a guy whose cap hit is 16 mil in 2014, 17.5 mil in 2015, 14 mil in 2016, and 14 mil in 2017 (unless you restructure and extend him, but he's 32 years old and on the decline, so that's not a great idea). It's just a lovely situation for everyone involved. The only good solution is to trade Ware. It creates cap room that will be crucial to keeping Tyron Smith and Dez Bryant and gives the cowboys another pick to work with. I still like Indianapolis as a partner if it were to happen. That said, it probably won't happen and we'll keep making the same mistakes over and over.
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Feb 5, 2014 17:56
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defiantgiant posted:I'd love to get Bennett, but I would not be mad about Lamarr Houston at all. Granted, the Raiders are about to have a ton of cap space ($59 million, holy poo poo,) so they might be able to re-sign him. If Chicago could pry him away, though, he'd be an ideal LE and nickel-package DT, just like Bennett. He is definitely doubling down on the defensive line. If you think about it, we thought the Bears would only be able to address the line or tight end in free agency last year, and they were able to strongly do both, with about the same cap space. If I had to break down how this draft and free agency goes, it'll be something like this. In free agency, he will target one top flight DE and at least a mid-level safety. He'll resign Bowman on the cheap and target one of our free agent lineman for whichever one can get a team-friendly deal. I suspect Collins is for sure coming back because his price will be cheap. And one of Wooten/Ratliff/Melton. I think Peppers/Bush/Bennett/Podlash are all cut. If Peppers is cut with a June 1st designation, which I think they have to do, they can free up an additional 4 million in cap space for this year. That can give them $25 million to do what they need to do in free agency. Basically, he will fill out a starting roster in free agency, just like he did last year, and draft for depth/youth. I'll tell you right now, this draft will not be all defense, despite his claims. I suspect we pick up another receiver/running back/center in the draft. The rest of the spots will be DL and CB. GNU Order posted:I'm not sure that the D-line needs a "rebuild" considering how injury plagued the Bears were. You realize only one of those guys is under contract, right?
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Feb 5, 2014 17:57
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TheChirurgeon posted:The only good solution is to trade Ware. It creates cap room that will be crucial to keeping Tyron Smith and Dez Bryant and gives the cowboys another pick to work with. I still like Indianapolis as a partner if it were to happen. What could you even get in a trade that forces a team to take on that cap figure he has over the next four years? Also didn't he say he was willing to take a pay cut to stay on the Cowboys?
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Feb 5, 2014 17:58
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Intruder posted:What could you even get in a trade that forces a team to take on that cap figure he has over the next four years? No, he only said he's willing to restructure. The "pay cut" comment was misreported/quoted and Ware made a statement about it. quote:“No, I didn’t say that,” Ware said Monday afternoon at Valley Ranch. “I said I will do whatever I need to do to maneuver some things around to help the team out. I’m for that. It’s nothing new to me. His base salary hovers in the $12-13M range over the next 4 years, so that's all a team would take on if he was traded and they'd be able to cut him at any time with no dead money (that would all stay with the Cowboys), so it's not the worst deal. It's not a trade that I would make given his age and production, but the Colts have made some bad trades recently sooooo
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Feb 5, 2014 18:06
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His cap figure and declining production makes Ware pretty close to untradeable, I'd think. Anyway: Made a FA thread so this one can focus on draft talk: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3607057
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Feb 5, 2014 18:09
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swickles posted:I think we need to start a free agency thread since its taking over the draft thread. done. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3607058
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Feb 5, 2014 18:13
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Sigh seeing ware slow down reminds me that I have likely one year of Cameron wake left
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Feb 5, 2014 18:22
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bewbies posted:You're mad about THAT? Scroll down to "dead money" Patriots didn't do much better. Brandon Lloyd $3,500,000 Jon Fanene $2,566,667  Aaron Hernandez $2,550,000 Chad Ochocinco $1,583,334 Leon Washington $1,200,000 Ras-I Dowling $940,759
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Feb 5, 2014 19:29
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Dowling was a freaking top 35 pick wasn't he? What a whiff by the patriots
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Feb 5, 2014 19:49
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CharlestheHammer posted:Or Joe Flacco. You just lit the Sour Diesel signal
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Feb 5, 2014 19:51
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Can someone give me the details on Ohio State OLB Ryan Shazier? Looking at his stats he's been insanely productive and he's someone I'm interested in as a Cowboys fan. Is he likely to be available in the mid-2nd or is he a solid 1st rounder?
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Feb 6, 2014 02:56
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Disillusionist posted:Can someone give me the details on Ohio State OLB Ryan Shazier? Looking at his stats he's been insanely productive and he's someone I'm interested in as a Cowboys fan. Is he likely to be available in the mid-2nd or is he a solid 1st rounder? He is a fantastic blitzer, and he is good at run support. He is decent in coverage, though this season no one looked that great in coverage. Most mocks have him as a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.
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Feb 6, 2014 03:05
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Schwack posted:Who's the weed guy that's going to fall out of the first/second in this draft? There's always a weed guy and I want him on my team. It seems every draft there's a weed guy and a weird "condition" guy that pops up every draft and they both go on to be good. AAA DOLFAN posted:Dowling was a freaking top 35 pick wasn't he? What a whiff by the patriots He was the 33rd pick that year, traded pick from Carolina.
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Feb 6, 2014 06:54
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Dowling was a freaking top 35 pick wasn't he? What a whiff by the patriots Wasn't he perpetually injured or am I thinking of a different UVA CB that was also taken highly? e: vvvvvvvvvvv if true that's a bit less of a Whiff might have been a good player if he'd stayed healthy.
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Feb 6, 2014 08:06
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^^^ He was still a reach when he was taken and most Pats fans here were at best lukewarm about the pick Pretty sure that's him Intruder fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Feb 6, 2014 |
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Feb 6, 2014 08:07
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Ras-I-Dowling was supposed to be a legitimate first rounder but went back for another year. After which, he was again a legitimate first rounder. It was a good pick that didn't pan out.
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Hmmm, I was born and raised in Texas so I feel no shame in saying this and I also believe it's not going to happen and I'm kinda ready to take a break from the Jerry Garrett Kiffin roller coaster for a season anyway. So if the Texans take Johnny Manziel at number 1 in the 2014 draft I will cheer for the Texans as my primary team (for better or for worse) for the 2014 season. I'll still be a Dallas fan but I'll be invested with the Texans for 2014.
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