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MeaningOfLife posted:poo poo, was I the only one who actually said "Oh come on!" in the end of last episode when Oliver grabs Sarah for some kissy kissy time? I did too! Regy Rusty posted:OLIVER FOR GOD'S SAKE LEARN SOME SELF CONTROL It's perfectly in character but it's still dumb as hell for him to do and is going to blow up horribly. Yay!
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Lance has to know about Oliver at this point but just doesn't care/ give a gently caress/ whatevs cause he's seen poo poo. Really amazing quality episode , although seriously you're gonna tell him at the fundraiser? Really? Also, yeah Felicity is kind of petty and weirdly about Oliver.
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Feb 7, 2014 06:37
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MeaningOfLife posted:poo poo, was I the only one who actually said "Oh come on!" in the end of last episode when Oliver grabs Sarah for some kissy kissy time? Nope, and he's going to regret it eventually. (probably next episode because this is Arrow) Get some goddamn self control Ollie.  Also nthing that Lance is the best goddamn character in this show. I love how completely he's wrapped up in Arrow's world and sees how completely involved the Arrow is with him and BOTH of his daughters PLUS Felicity, and still plays dumb and never calls Ollie out. He totally knows. 
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Feb 7, 2014 06:51
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Taffer posted:Nope, and he's going to regret it eventually. (probably next episode because this is Arrow) That is not going to happen. He will sooner stop shooting people with arrows. I assume sometime soon (next episode) he will come to Ollie asking for the arrows help, and while Ollie plays dumb he just tells him.
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Feb 7, 2014 06:53
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They have all this silly sexual tension for Ollie's life, but sometime soon some girl's gonna get a deep Digglin'. Ollie should be concentrating on figuring out a new catchphrase, instead of sex. 
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Feb 7, 2014 06:56
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Drifter posted:Ollie should be concentrating on figuring out a new catchphrase, instead of sex. I have a feeling that the list will come back at some point - then people can go back to failin' the city. Also looks like (from the promo/interviews about the next episode) Oliver is going to show up to the Lance family dinner...with Sara. So it ain't going to take long till he gets to see some consequences
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Feb 7, 2014 07:16
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Hollismason posted:Lance has to know about Oliver at this point but just doesn't care/ give a gently caress/ whatevs cause he's seen poo poo. The way I saw it was that Felicity WAS trying the keep the secret, she's just awful at doing that without looking and acting guilty. Ollie saw it, called bullshit on her 'Nothing' and pressed her.
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Feb 7, 2014 07:19
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BreakAtmo posted:The way I saw it was that Felicity WAS trying the keep the secret, she's just awful at doing that without looking and acting guilty. Ollie saw it, called bullshit on her 'Nothing' and pressed her. That's how I saw it too.
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Feb 7, 2014 07:27
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MrFlibble posted:I have a feeling that the list will come back at some point - then people can go back to failin' the city. I hope the consequence is angry supervillian Laurel. The amount of desire I have to see this is hard to fathom. Almost as much desire as seeing Olicity people squirm. Which... King of Solomon posted:
Getting them to double down on the crazy and show exactly how unhinged they are about two TV show characters counts as a win for me. 
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Feb 7, 2014 07:28
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Warmachine posted:I hope the consequence is angry supervillian Laurel. The amount of desire I have to see this is hard to fathom. Almost as much desire as seeing Olicity people squirm. Which... Yeah dude, people liking the idea of a relationship between two characters with a ton of chemistry is super crazy. Let's show those fuckers!
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Feb 7, 2014 07:46
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Epi Lepi posted:Yeah dude, people liking the idea of a relationship between two characters with a ton of chemistry is super crazy. Let's show those fuckers! There are fans of a show who say stuff like "I hape A and B get together, that'd be cool." And then you have Shippers, who are generally legit unhinged, and a bit scary. See also: Amell's facebook page when the last episode aired.
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Error 404 posted:There are fans of a show who say stuff like "I hape A and B get together, that'd be cool." And then you have Shippers, who are generally legit unhinged, and a bit scary. So kind of like this guy then: Warmachine posted:
Or is it different cause he's not on tumblr and it's for DC APPROVED CANON COUPLE!!
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) does three things to make me super happy. One, it cements the "Green Arrow/Black Canary" relationship. Two, it gives Caity Lotz more screen time in the present. Island Sarah is great and all, but I really want to see more of her on a salmon ladder and beating the poo poo out of bad people with her staff. And three, it torpedoes the gently caress out of that Olicity ship.
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I think it's completely understandable why Moira wanted to keep Thea's real dad a secret, and Ollie could have conceivably forgiven her for it if that's the direction they wanted to go, but I get the direction they went instead as well. His entire relationship with his mother over the course of these two years has been defined by lie after lie after lie after lie after lie; heck, he had to come to terms with her possibly being behind his own shipwreck. And then he spent much of her trial genuinely campaigning for how great of a person his mother truly is and how there will be no more lies between this family from now on...only to end up having to discover more of her lies and secrets second-hand. I think he's just tired and pissed of having to completely reevaluate his entire outlook on his own mother every other month. The whole crux of her participation in the Undertaking, after all, was supposed to be that she was scared Malcolm might harm her family if she didn't do what he said. And after her affair with him was revealed, she had to qualify that with "Okay yes we boinked, but that was just a one-time mistake!!" Only now it turns out she had his baby as well? Sure, the obvious rationale for this lie is that it's for Thea's own good and that Moira only kept it secret out of fear of Merlyn. But how much of that is going to end up being revealed as yet another lie at some point down the line? And if Ollie has to consider that Moira's fear of Merlyn might be another one of her lies, he has to consider just how honestly coerced she was by Merlyn in the first place. Obviously Ollie is the last person in the world qualified to judge others for keeping secrets and I hope they really touch on that, but I think him finally getting fed up with her untrustworthiness is pretty understandable. Klungar posted:Amell just posted this spoiler-filled video for the episode after the break: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=358228554315183.
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Error 404 posted:There are fans of a show who say stuff like "I hape A and B get together, that'd be cool." And then you have Shippers, who are generally legit unhinged, and a bit scary. They have hinted at enough that I think it is pretty harmless to want the two characters to be together, without going to scary shipping territory (like with Supernatural).
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Feb 7, 2014 09:04
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Oasx posted:They have hinted at enough that I think it is pretty harmless to want the two characters to be together, without going to scary shipping territory (like with Supernatural). Isn't most of the insane Supernatural shipping about the two male leads or something?
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Feb 7, 2014 10:21
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That play brothers, yes. Don't gently caress with those shippers. Don't do it.
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Hollismason posted:Lance has to know about Oliver at this point but just doesn't care/ give a gently caress/ whatevs cause he's seen poo poo. Taffer posted:Also nthing that Lance is the best goddamn character in this show. I love how completely he's wrapped up in Arrow's world and sees how completely involved the Arrow is with him and BOTH of his daughters PLUS Felicity, and still plays dumb and never calls Ollie out. He totally knows. People keep saying this but I really don't think it's the case. I mean, I know there aren't exactly a whole lot of solid rules or any kind of sense of logic when it comes to superhero secret identities, but it makes zero sense for Lance to keep the fact that he knows Ollie's the Arrow a secret. Like, why wouldn't he just come up to Ollie and go "Hey by the way I know you're Arrow, so now can you just call me instead of making me meet on top of random roofs?" What does he gain by not letting Oliver know that he knows? They've been through so much poo poo at this point that it's not like Lance still doesn't trust him. Maybe they'll play it off by having him acknowledge that he's had a feeling for a while when he finally does find out, but if they're saving it for some scene where Ollie's identity is dramatically revealed to Lance and he just shrugs it off and gives some kind of super smug "Pft, I've known for months" line then it'd be pretty drat goofy, even for this show.
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VDay posted:if they're saving it for some scene where Ollie's identity is dramatically revealed to Lance and he just shrugs it off and gives some kind of super smug "Pft, I've known for months" line then it'd be pretty drat goofy, even for this show. If by goofy you mean amazing. I mean, I know the hood is supposed to be like magical "nobody can see me or recognize my voice" thing, but there is way more than that that gives away Ollies identity to Lance.
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Feb 7, 2014 10:52
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He caught on to Sara super fast, and eventually he's gonna make the connection of Sara returning as an assassin to Oliver possibly being a trained fighter as well. And if Sara starts showing up with Oliver everywhere that connection definitely gets stronger.
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Taffer posted:If by goofy you mean amazing. Oh I totally agree that he should know it's Ollie, but like I said I just don't really see any reason for him keeping it a secret if that is the case. Maybe it just kinda bugs me because I always found it silly that superheroes almost always decide to keep their identities a secret from those close to them, despite the fact that in most cases it would actually be really useful for them to know and could keep them out of danger.
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VDay posted:Oh I totally agree that he should know it's Ollie, but like I said I just don't really see any reason for him keeping it a secret if that is the case. Maybe it just kinda bugs me because I always found it silly that superheroes almost always decide to keep their identities a secret from those close to them, despite the fact that in most cases it would actually be really useful for them to know and could keep them out of danger. On this vein, why doesn't Malcolm reveal that Oliver is the vigilante?
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Feb 7, 2014 11:32
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Eddain posted:On this vein, why doesn't Malcolm reveal that Oliver is the vigilante? Game recognize game.
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VDay posted:Oh I totally agree that he should know it's Ollie, but like I said I just don't really see any reason for him keeping it a secret if that is the case. Maybe it just kinda bugs me because I always found it silly that superheroes almost always decide to keep their identities a secret from those close to them, despite the fact that in most cases it would actually be really useful for them to know and could keep them out of danger. In comics, generally when good guys figure out someone's secret identity they don't say anything out of respect for their friend.
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Feb 7, 2014 12:13
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I swear they write this show just trying to get the same reaction from me again and again...       
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Party Plane Jones posted:Isn't most of the insane Supernatural shipping about the two male leads or something? Nope, the biggest Supernatural ship is between one of the brothers and another main character who is not his brother. They are still two straight characters but that has not stopped the shippers. And I don't know why any shippers would be threatened by Ollie having sex with Sarah after a highly emotional situation. They are not marrying, he had a similarly meaningless one-night-stand with the co-head of his company, and look where she ended up! Completely forgotten by the show! Better hope Felicity never sleeps with Oliver 
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Eddain posted:He caught on to Sara super fast, and eventually he's gonna make the connection of Sara returning as an assassin to Oliver possibly being a trained fighter as well. And if Sara starts showing up with Oliver everywhere that connection definitely gets stronger. Detective Lance has always known it was Oliver. The vigilante disappeared when Oliver went away after the earthquake, and then reappeared when Oliver returned AND just so happens to work with Oliver Queen's admin assistant AND has a relationship with his daughter, who went missing while on a trip with Oliver. The Diggle stunt in season one may have thrown him off for a while, but by the time he had reason to be suspicious again, he had come to recognize "The Hood" as a necessary evil.
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Torrannor posted:Nope, the biggest Supernatural ship is between one of the brothers and another main character who is not his brother. They are still two straight characters but that has not stopped the shippers. Twilight shippers sent death threats to Emilie De Ravin for being the love interest to Robert Pattinson in a different movie.
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Feb 7, 2014 13:53
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The Arrow doesn't exactly have the best disguise, if you are around him as much as Lance is, you can probably guess who he is.
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Most Batman comics have hinted that Gordon knowns full well who Batman is and he just does not tell since he considers him a friend/necessary evil. That was a major part of Year One and he does not reveal it out of respect. They also did they same thing with Perry White/Superman, that Perry White is an amazing reporter and there is no way that he would not be able to figure it out. Also one of the biggest batshit insane moments of Supernatural fandom was when at a con the fans tried to get one of the actors girlfriends/wives kicked out by reporting to security that they were whores. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Most Batman comics have hinted that Gorden knowns full well who Batman is and he just does not tell since he considers him a friend/necessary evil. That was a major part of Year One and he does not reveal it out of respect. They also did they same thing with Perry White/Superman, that Perry White is an amazing reporter and there is no way that he would not be able to figure it out. They're both married to women who they met appearing on the show, if I remember right. Including Katie Cassidy's replacement.
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The idea with Lance and Arrow(and Gordon and Batman) is that Lance knows on one level that Arrow is necessary, but at the same time he's a cop. So having a totally open relationship with Ollie/Arrow and not holding him accountable for his illegal actions would be over the line for him. So he will play along, but never allow his "suspicions" to be 100% confirmed because that would mean he'd have to do something about it. That's why Gordon gets mud on his glasses and "can't see Batman". If he admitted to actually seeing him he'd be forced to do his duty and arrest him.
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Rarity posted:In comics, generally when good guys figure out someone's secret identity they don't say anything out of respect for their friend.
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BrianWilly posted:And villains don't do it so they have some sort of ultimate trump card to pull in a worst case scenario. That can bite them in the rear end when some of their underlings find out and decide to get a little stabby. Just got to make sure that you kill him as it could end with your death and a mother killing their own kid. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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It's funny; I was trying to figure what you're referencing and came up with at least three different potential instances from DC alone. Ahh, DC Comics. 
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BrianWilly posted:It's funny; I was trying to figure what you're referencing and came up with at least three different potential instances from DC alone. I was talking about Daredevil.
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Daredevil is best used as an example of "anything his dick touches will literally die within a year". Matt Murdock's romantic life is just a carnival of sorrow, with life continuously kicking him straight in the balls. I've actually enjoyed the way Arrow has handled the romantic relationships. The show doesn't bluntly tell us how mentally damaged Oliver is, but there's more than enough evidence than he's created enough walls to give Bruce Wayne a run for his money. There's probably no one in Oliver's life he trusts more than Diggle - and he can't even tell him everything (or even most) of what happened to him on the island.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Daredevil is best used as an example of "anything his dick touches will literally die within a year". Matt Murdock's romantic life is just a carnival of sorrow, with life continuously kicking him straight in the balls. Black Cat is still alive.
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Rhyno posted:Black Cat is still alive. She has 8 extra, she's cheating.
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MeaningOfLife posted:poo poo, was I the only one who actually said "Oh come on!" in the end of last episode when Oliver grabs Sarah for some kissy kissy time? No, I almost turned the episode off right then after rolling my eyes. Ollie is just this horny guy, you know?
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