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DevNull: Apr 4, 2007; And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
A human being that was given to fly

I am on Serenity in Draw as well as the others in here:

I have a marble forge and tin crafting bench if you need. There is lots of good mining in the desert areas around here. Trees are not too far off.

edit: I am on top of the big mountain.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 05:10

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# ? May 31, 2024 19:15

Shinino Kage: Sep 5, 2008

Watch things vanish!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRZyTwStIU

Shinino Kage fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Feb 7, 2014

# ? Feb 7, 2014 05:29

Harettazetta: Jul 22, 2006; "Well, what choice do I have!? Trust is for fools! Fear is the only reliable way!"

All these claim bugs make me a little happy that I've only spent my time trying to get higher level picks and haven't started building yet.

But also a little unhappy that I've done literally nothing but hit rocks so I can hit bigger rocks.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 06:55

LumberingTroll: Sep 9, 2007; Really it's not because
I don't like you...

Started working on my keep today.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 07:03

Reverence: Nov 1, 2009

So has anyone found any mithril yet?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 07:28

Sea Lily: Aug 5, 2007; Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Frog Tower comin' along. Ran out of stone so it's time to go get more.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 08:06

Vulpes: Nov 13, 2002; Well, shit.

Reverence posted:

So has anyone found any mithril yet?

Pretty sure Mithril isn't spawning yet. You can find Obsidian and Alabaster very rarely, I think they're the highest.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 08:21

Loving Life Partner: Apr 17, 2003

I submitted a request for a refund based on system performance. The game was just running sluggish all the time, and I'm going to need a PC upgrade before I can really play.

I'm just barely below all the minimum requirements and its a real bummer. My PC was badass 5 years ago, haha.

I dunno if I'm going to spot upgrade or just rebuild from scratch with my case and PSU we'll see.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 15:04

Kenny Rogers: Sep 7, 2007; Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

Last month I built this, I tossed my old 1TB drive in it for everything non-OS, and it's been *glorious*.
It'll support the 780/Titan and the highest spec i7's around right now, so I've got a couple upgrades available as the prices for those come down, too.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 16:10

Tom Guycot: Oct 15, 2008; Chief of Governors

So where the heck is topaz and what does it look like? i've been wandering around for ages and i've never seen 1 block of it.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 16:36

the panacea: May 10, 2008

Upgrading from 8 to 16 gigs of RAM made a huge difference for me with this game on my i5 4760 and a gtx760.
I still get some weird FPS slowdowns but am averaging around 40 with most settings on ultra.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 16:44

grrarg: Feb 14, 2011; Don't lose your head over it.

Tom Guycot posted:

So where the heck is topaz and what does it look like? i've been wandering around for ages and i've never seen 1 block of it.

http://landmark.wikia.com/wiki/Mining_Guide has screenshots for all the stuff found so far.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 16:50

Logic: Jan 8, 2009

the panacea posted:

Upgrading from 8 to 16 gigs of RAM made a huge difference for me with this game on my i5 4760 and a gtx760.
I still get some weird FPS slowdowns but am averaging around 40 with most settings on ultra.

I am running 8GB on windows 7 with a 670GTX and an old I7 I got in the Intel bundle 3 or 4 years ago. I can run everything on high at 1900X1080 with no problems, except for a few weird slowdowns at random. I thought maybe I needed to upgrade my ram but if your still getting it with 16GB it must just be a game issue.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 16:53

genstylefromZFZ: Aug 27, 2004

Tom Guycot posted:

So where the heck is topaz and what does it look like? i've been wandering around for ages and i've never seen 1 block of it.

After you mine out a silver node I almost always find a small patch of topaz hidden beneath it.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 17:28

Prophecy120: Feb 4, 2003; God Bless the Enclave! God Bless America!

Joined up with the goons on Serenity and got started on my hill side cottage. This game is fantastic.

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# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:45

xutech: Mar 4, 2011; EIIST

Please post more building porn.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:04

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

So naturally my internet went out on the 2nd, and my upstairs neighbors wont' give access until the 10th for the company to repair the fiber. I just want to build blocks.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:07

raingwc: Feb 28, 2008

Aww man, I thought we were going Serenity / Pingu(or Pongu, or something)

Which Tier are you guys on?

Also, who's got some old pickaxes that they dont need anymore?

Also a quite good compiled starter document, stolen from Reddit:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QU8d6XOwn6DrndwyFqQhWbDMxXne-koNGZnkql2Z2dg/preview?sle=true

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:47

Perick: May 27, 2003; GoonGrrrls = Teh WIN

There are some goons on Serenity/Pingo isle, and some of us are on Serenity/Draw isle.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:51

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

David Georgeson just posted his neighbor's creation.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:00

kxZyle: Nov 7, 2012; Pillbug

Looks like two EU servers are on the way.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:03

raingwc: Feb 28, 2008

Awesome!

How does move his claim? Is it possible?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:15

Tyberius: Oct 21, 2006

Prophecy120 posted:

Joined up with the goons on Serenity and got started on my hill side cottage. This game is fantastic.

Love that cottage, I claimed the northside of a mountain in desert just a little ways north of you. Hopefully I can make something special out of that wasteland.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:18

Sancho: Jul 18, 2003

Here's a couple of my ship. Polished granite makes an ok looking metalish surface.

Engine room. Still have a ways to go.

I wish there were flying mounts so I could get more shots of the detail. Been hanging off that thing with my grappling hook like a bad dingleberry.

Sancho fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Feb 7, 2014

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:28

Vulpes: Nov 13, 2002; Well, shit.

There's plenty of metal surfaces under Iron, materials permitting.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:49

BadLlama: Jan 13, 2006

Can anyone else not play this game with crossfire enabled without some crazy graphical glitches and horrible performance?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:57

LuckyCat: Jul 26, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Some nice builds you guys have. I've been too busy to do anything but log in and do a bit of harvesting for a couple of minutes, so all I've done since the last wipe is lay the foundation for castle #8,042.

Sancho, that ship is really cool. Maybe I'll try to make something out of the box like that.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 21:57

Remb: Feb 2, 2014

Here are some basic harvesting tests:

2, +2 Keen-Eye Band (3.1 Discovery)
0 Harvest Bonus
Heavy Copper Axe (Legendary)
(84 Speed, 98 Damage, 1 Resource Rating)

1001 Burled Wood
15493 Plain Wood

2, +2 Keen-Eye Band (3.1 Discovery)
0 Harvest Bonus
Heavy Gold Axe (Rare)
(79 Speed, 90 Damage, 6 Resource Rating)

1008 Burled Wood
15057 Plain Wood

2, Ring of Bounty (20 Harvest Bonus)
0 Discovery
Heavy Copper Axe (Legendary)

1013 Burled Wood
25003 Plain Wood

All gathering is done on the largest tree type.

Based on my limited sample size, this means:

Currently, Resource Rating (tier of the gathering tool) has no direct effect on gathering. (Higher tiers still have higher base stats)
Harvest Bonus increases the quantity of the base resource gathered and has no effect on proccing a rare gather such as Burled Wood.
Harvest Bonus stacks additively. 20 Harvest Bonus means 20% more basic resources gathered.
Discovery increases the rate of gathering rare resources and has no effect on the base resource.
Discovery also stacks additively. 4 Discovery means 40% more rare resources.
~~Multiple sources of Discovery are listed as giving diminishing returns in the stat sheet, but actual gathering says otherwise.~~ Item description rounds to whole numbers; the stat sheet is accurate.
Conjecture: I think 'Rare' resources that are gathered directly instead of proccing such as some gemstones or marble benefit from Harvest Bonus, not Discovery.
I think Discovery has the same effect on other procced rare resources such as elemental ores and Coal.

Remb fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 8, 2014

# ? Feb 7, 2014 23:13

Bashez: Jul 19, 2004

Remb posted:

Here are some basic harvesting tests:

2, +2 Keen-Eye Band (3.1 Discovery)
0 Harvest Bonus
Heavy Copper Axe (Legendary)
(84 Speed, 98 Damage, 1 Resource Rating)

1001 Burled Wood
15493 Plain Wood

2, +2 Keen-Eye Band (3.1 Discovery)
0 Harvest Bonus
Heavy Gold Axe (Rare)
(79 Speed, 90 Damage, 6 Resource Rating)

1008 Burled Wood
15057 Plain Wood

2, Ring of Bounty (20 Harvest Bonus)
0 Discovery
Heavy Copper Axe (Legendary)

1013 Burled Wood
25003 Plain Wood

All gathering is done on the largest tree type.

Based on my limited sample size, this means:

Currently, Resource Rating (tier of the gathering tool) has no direct effect on gathering. (Higher tiers still have higher base stats)

Harvest Bonus increases the quantity of the base resource gathered and has no effect on proccing a rare gather such as Burled Wood.

Harvest Bonus stacks additively. 20 Harvest Bonus means 20% more basic resources gathered.

Discovery increases the rate of gathering rare resources and has no effect on the base resource.

Discovery also stacks additively. 4 Discovery means 40% more rare resources.

Multiple sources of Discovery are listed as giving diminishing returns in the stat sheet, but actual gathering says otherwise.

Conjecture: I think 'Rare' resources that are gathered directly instead of proccing such as some gemstones or marble benefit from Harvest Bonus, not Discovery.

I think Discovery has the same effect on other procced rare resources such as elemental ores and Coal.

Harvest bonus is pretty clearly increasing the amount of Burled wood you're getting since it's the same as the when you have discovery, basically it looks like if you had farmed 15k plain wood you would have gotten 600 burled wood. So the 3.1 discovery increased your Burled from 600 to 1000 roughly a 60% increase off 3.1 discovery (I feel like I'm doing something horrifically wrong here)*.

I don't think it's diminishing returns on the discovery but the item only displays integers when the item actually has decimal places. My friend made 3 of the lowest rings and they gave 1.03 and 1.022 and 1.01 and they added up perfectly fine. He's now using a +4 and a +5 and they add up to 8.25 because they are actually 3.65 and 4.6 individually.

Resource rating is also tier level, I believe.

*I think I'm not correctly accounting for the harvest bonus, we don't know how it's affecting burled wood gather rate I don't think. We'd need a test with no harvest to see if burled wood goes up or stays constant with harvesting.

Bashez fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Feb 7, 2014

# ? Feb 7, 2014 23:35

Remb: Feb 2, 2014

Bashez posted:

Harvest bonus is pretty clearly increasing the amount of Burled wood you're getting since it's the same as the when you have discovery, basically it looks like if you had farmed 15k plain wood you would have gotten 600 burled wood. So the 3.1 discovery increased your Burled from 600 to 1000 roughly a 60% increase off 3.1 discovery (I feel like I'm doing something horrifically wrong here)*.

I should have stated my procedure. I chopped the largest trees until I acquired 1000 burled wood. Burled Wood is a constant here. You can see how much is gathered by comparing the ratio of Burled to Plain Wood.

Bashez posted:

I don't think it's diminishing returns on the discovery but the item only displays integers when the item actually has decimal places. My friend made 3 of the lowest rings and they gave 1.03 and 1.022 and 1.01 and they added up perfectly fine. He's now using a +4 and a +5 and they add up to 8.25 because they are actually 3.65 and 4.6 individually.

You're correct on this. I knew items were rounded in their description but for some reason I forgot about this today.

Even with 3.1 Discovery, I think what I said still holds water:
Say I got 1k Burled / 15.5k Plain for the sake of napkin math.

If I didn't wear 31% Discovery, I would have to gather 31% more Plain Wood to receive the same amount Burled:
15.5 * 1.31 = 20.305

On top of that, not only would I have to gather 31% more Plain Wood. But since I'm wearing 20% Harvest Bonus in the 3rd test, I'm also gathering 20% more Plain Wood:
20.305 * 1.2 = 24.366

Assuming I'm somewhat correct, 25003 to 24366 is a 2.6% margin of error. And I really don't want to gather anymore burled wood without Discovery.

Remb fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Feb 8, 2014

# ? Feb 8, 2014 00:15

Bashez: Jul 19, 2004

Remb posted:

Even with 3.1 Discovery, I think what I said still holds water:
Say I got 1k Burled / 15.5k Plain for the sake of napkin math

If I didn't wear 31% Discovery, I would have to gather 31% more Plain Wood to receive the same amount Burled:
15.5 * 1.31 = 20.305

On top of that, not only would I have to gather 31% more Plain Wood. But since I'm wearing 20% Harvest Bonus in the 3rd test, I'm also gathering 20% more Plain Wood on top of that:
20.305 * 1.2 = 24.366

Assuming I'm somewhat correct, 25003 to 24366 is a 2.6% margin of error. And I really don't want to gather anymore burled wood without Discovery.

Yeah this looks good, I knew I was doing something wrong.

# ? Feb 8, 2014 00:20

Remb: Feb 2, 2014

This is my neighbor. His claim is titled "Wockos's Penis".

# ? Feb 8, 2014 00:42

Octopode: Sep 2, 2009; No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

So, am I just bad at building, or does the line tool seem to pretty much suck right now?

# ? Feb 8, 2014 00:47

Bashez: Jul 19, 2004

Octopode posted:

So, am I just bad at building, or does the line tool seem to pretty much suck right now?

You can't really use it to make thin things. Otherwise I don't really see an issue with it.

Also the paint tool is terrible. You either paint with the 1x1 voxel or you're painting depth as well and absolutely burning through whatever resource you're painting. It's way easier to paint flat surfaces with the selection tool and just place a 1 voxel deep rectangle on whatever you're wanting to paint.

# ? Feb 8, 2014 00:49

Vulpes: Nov 13, 2002; Well, shit.

Bashez posted:

Also the paint tool is terrible. You either paint with the 1x1 voxel or you're painting depth as well and absolutely burning through whatever resource you're painting. It's way easier to paint flat surfaces with the selection tool and just place a 1 voxel deep rectangle on whatever you're wanting to paint.

How did you expect it to work? You either paint a surface, or you can select a weirdly shaped object and convert it all at once without filling in the empty space around it like you would with add.

# ? Feb 8, 2014 01:09

Shemp the Stooge: Feb 23, 2001

Vulpes posted:

How did you expect it to work? You either paint a surface, or you can select a weirdly shaped object and convert it all at once without filling in the empty space around it like you would with add.

I would expect it to paint only the surface, not x voxels deep. It should be called the replacer tool.

# ? Feb 8, 2014 01:26

Shemp the Stooge: Feb 23, 2001

Octopode posted:

So, am I just bad at building, or does the line tool seem to pretty much suck right now?

It's good for a few things. One unadvertised feature is it makes a great level. Lets say you have to columns and want to put a light on each column at the same height but they are really far apart. If you use a 1 voxel thick line tool on one and connect the other the only place it will let you connect them will be at exactly the same height on the other one. I use one voxel thick line tool lines all the time as construction lines.

Also if you use the 3x3 voxel line took at angles like 30~60 degrees you will get pretty good results.

Shemp the Stooge fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 8, 2014

# ? Feb 8, 2014 01:30

Octopode: Sep 2, 2009; No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

Patch notes:

quote:

� Burled wood planks now require only 60 burled wood logs to craft (down from 100). Some people may wonder why this gets top billing on today�s update notes� Other people completely understand.
� We have completely overhauled the claim placement. The previous version and display were difficult to understand when an island became saturated with claims and finding an open spot that was available was almost impossible. We will continue to iterate on the new version but wanted to get it out to everyone to help them find open claims in the world.
� In order to fix an issue with people generating infinite resources, we now will only allow people to build outside of their claims using dirt. No mud pies, please.
� The Salvage button on the UI has changed! It now works as a Delete Item area. Simply drag and drop any item from your inventory to this part of the window and it will prompt you to delete the item. When Salvaging gets added back to the game, it will be part of crafting and will have to find a new home. You can no longer drag and drop items in the world to delete them.
� Fixed an issue that could send you to random parts of an island when teleporting between islands or worlds.
� If you activate a tool on the action bar, it will now appropriately highlight.
� The Founder�s Pickaxe will now keep the particles with it rather than letting them trail behind sometimes
� You can now type numbers (instead of having to use the up/down buttons) to set the desired number when splitting stacks of items or when crafting multiple items.
� The compass on the map now rotates to show you the correct orientation of the world.
� You can no longer delete a claim unless you have room in your inventory for all the items on it and the claim flag that will be returned to you.
� Fixed an issue where placing voxels could accidentally force a character �outside� of the world.
� Items dropped anywhere on the Hero window will now auto-equip in the appropriate slot.
� Bringing up the map no longer unequips your harvesting tool.
� There is now music on the loading screen and in character create/select.
� Fixed an issue that would cause you to �glide� up slopes when you jumped when running up a steep hill.
� Escape should now close UI windows as intended.
� The displayed count of items in a stack will now update as you open/consume those items.
� �Grid Mode� now affects healing, smoothing, painting and use of the line tool.
� Autorun (Numlock) will now turn off if you attempt to move forward or backward.
� Crafting categories should no longer collapse while crafting.
� People can no longer harvest trees on a claim. Tree houses are once again safe!
� The grappling hook will no longer glow at night.
� Props should now work correctly with add/delete/pickup and undo/redo.
� Claims will now automatically template themselves when you delete them. This can fail if you already have a large amount of voxels templated. Known issues: This template will include procedural props and if you have too many templates, it may exceed the amount allowed to be templated and fail. These will be fixed as soon as we can.
� We�ve added some functionality to the Evac to Safety command from the Main Menu. If you get stuck on someone�s claim without any way to remove yourself (pesky pit traps), if you use this command it will move you to a nearby location that should be safe!

# ? Feb 8, 2014 01:52

LuckyCat: Jul 26, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Some good stuff there. I think claim placement is the most important thing in this patch.

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Vulpes: Nov 13, 2002; Well, shit.

I spent all last night farming burled wood and turned about 10,000 into planks. Goddamnit.

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