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It always pissed me off that michelin only makes tires in 17"
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Feb 1, 2014 20:27
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NWDub posted:It always pissed me off that michelin only makes tires in 17" They make the PR4 in an 18 inch front, the PR3 in an 17-19 inch front, 17-19 inch rear.
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Feb 2, 2014 02:40
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Ok so I probably already know the answer just looking for verification. I'm almost done with my FZR project and it's time for tires/chain/sprockets. The bike has a normal 17in. front wheel but a goofy 18in. rear. As of right now there is one tire I can get in the proper size which is a Shinko. I can get a Sport Demon in almost the right size for now as well. Option 2: I can spend about $400 extra and get Speedwerks SV650 rear wheel conversion kit which will allow me to run pretty much any modern rubber. Option 3 is finishing it up, putting whatever tires on it and selling it for something more modern. I probably, maybe could get my money back out but it's a salvage title and I have been using it as a therapeutic project so I've spent a lot of cash and time on detail poo poo (new levers, windscreen, factory carb parts, EBC rotors, stainless lines, R6 master, valve adjustment and gaskets, polishing plastics, recapping the tach, removing and lubing every drat bearing in the bike, etc). I'm probably going to go with option 2. In for a penny, in for a pound right?
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Feb 5, 2014 19:38
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What goes into the conversion kit? I'm pretty sure I still have an amazingly gaudy rear SV650 rim (gen 1) if you want it/it'll cut down the price.
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Feb 5, 2014 20:03
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Conversion kit comes with a machined sprocket carrier, bearings, brembo caliper, aluminum mount, brake arm and spacers. I just need a complete rear wheel assembly from a Gen1. I send the sprocket carrier in for a core and get that other stuff back for $350. I'd be painting the rim white to match the front anyway so gaudy is no issue. I've located one on eBay for $75 shipped. Was gonna put an ad on cl and see if something local pops up unless you really want to ditch your gaudy one.
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Feb 5, 2014 20:19
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It's just sitting in the garage, so if you'll use it, it's yours. Just cover shipping.
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Feb 5, 2014 20:21
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Ok, that would certainly help, thanks! Guess that seals the deal, I'll go ahead and keep spending money on the pile  I'll send you a PM when I'm at lunch and not supposed to be "working".
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Feb 5, 2014 20:29
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Is that the one I'm thinking it is Z3n? 
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Feb 5, 2014 20:33
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He is in for a shiny surprise when he pulls that wheel out of the box! I'd also recommend boosting rear ride height, if possible, to keep the geometry roughly the same.
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Feb 5, 2014 20:51
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I've already sourced dog bones that raise the rear 30mm which is what most guys on the FZR forums says brings you back to normal ride height. PM inbound EDIT: Oh yeah, tire question. What tires should I put on it? It's going to be a weekend/track day bike only. The front is a 110 and the rear is 150 or 160. I haven't had to shop for modern rubber in ages and am lost. Bugdrvr fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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Feb 5, 2014 21:50
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Bugdrvr posted:I've already sourced dog bones that raise the rear 30mm which is what most guys on the FZR forums says brings you back to normal ride height. FZR600? I had one of those. The rear is problem. I believe shinko makes the only radial rear these days. I used an Avon storm 2 ultra back when they made them in 150/70-18 which is now discontinued. I would also put on the stickiest radial tire on the front that you can, if you upsize, just upsize the front. (if you go 150/60-18 rear you can go 110/80-17 front) also you cannot fit a 120 on the front tire  edit: I really don't think you gain anything because of how soft the suspension is. Tires aren't the limiting factor, the soft soft suspension is.
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Feb 6, 2014 03:53
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Bridgestone make bt14's in 150/60/18. I had them on my VFR400.
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Feb 6, 2014 04:51
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^^^No BT 014 anymore apparently. Just got excited and searched around but seems like they are discontinued NWDub posted:FZR600? I had one of those. I forgot to mention in my post above but it's got Race Tech springs and valves in the front and a freshly rebuilt Fox TC on the rear. The suspension should be pretty solid. If I was only using it to cruise around I'd just put whatever on there but aside from having something to zone out on in the garage, I plan on taking it to as many track days as I can drag my rear end to. I was planning on buying a new(er) bike but this stray showed up and became the new bike.
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Feb 6, 2014 05:11
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Pirelli makes the diablo supercorsa in a 110 for us poor people running 2.5 inch front rims, like my RS125 and your FZR. They might be a touch hard to come by, but totally worth it. Especially considering you can get a matching rear and your bike will basically be set for life on tires.
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Feb 6, 2014 05:18
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This is worth knowing for the next time I end up being dumb and buying a 90's jap import pocket rocket with the hope of making it ride like new.
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Feb 6, 2014 07:28
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Bugdrvr posted:Ok so I probably already know the answer just looking for verification. BT-016 will fit, too. I'm running one right now  . According to the guy I bought my bike from, it's not a bad tire, even for mild track riding. Mine has started flat spotting so I need to replace it pretty quickly. My PO also included a "kit" to convert the back to a normal 17 inch rear. It included a wheel, axle, shims, caliper bracket, caliper, and another brake line. He also gave me a matching front wheel with BT-003's mounted on both AND in decent shape. If I'm not feeling super effin' lazy this weekend, I was going to try and mount it. I'll post pics for you if you'd like. He picked up the setup off of stock bikes (I believe a GS500 or something), so it should be pretty darn frugal.
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Feb 7, 2014 05:14
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anyone ever run winter motorbike tires? http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=5&rtyp=17&profil=102&pic=59&lang=en
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Feb 7, 2014 15:13
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XYLOPAGUS posted:BT-016 will fit, too. I'm running one right now As far as I can tell they are discontinued too. Looks like even just in 2012 there were a good bunch of tires available if you go by posts on the FZR Archives but now there are only those few that are left. I'd definitely be interested in seeing pics of that kit if you're up for photo taking. From reading around it seems like there are quite a few different variations of parts piles that will get you a 17 inch rear wheel but at this point I think the only way I'd build up a swap myself is if I could find whatever parts I needed that will just bolt on. My buddy owns a machine shop but I'm too lazy to be taking poo poo apart and measuring x1000 just to save the $300 for the Speedwerks kit. I was talking to a guy from there and he's going to hook me up with dog bones and take off 520 chain and sprockets from last years race bike for cheap so I'm sold.
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Feb 8, 2014 18:47
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Cool. I'll post some pics some time this weekend.
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Feb 8, 2014 19:30
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The tread on those is very insane Skreemer. That should work wonders in hard conditions, if appearance is truth. Major thanks to z3n and blackmk4 and snowden for advising me into stock size PR3. Spent all day and some of last night on them and I cannot get over how much better the bike leans and corners. It glides effortlessly, and I never feel like im fighting the bike. Granted they are brand new tires, but this is something completely different. This rides like I expected a street/sport bike to ride. My low speed turns are 3x tighter, too. The bike leaning over far with a thought is far from "hard to get used to" like I was warned. I'm so much more confident both in turns and going up to begin them. The rear tire being flatted bad and much wider than stock really worked against me. I won't let it get that far ever again, if only because I want it to ride this way always.
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Feb 9, 2014 02:45
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Enjoy them dude. I've got about 6k on my PR3's and they still handle like the day I got them.
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Feb 9, 2014 02:55
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I put an insane amount of highway mileage on my PR3's when I had them on my ZRX and the rear just refused to flatten. Made the big tank change direction like a figure skater. They're magical tyres.
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Feb 9, 2014 04:14
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Skreemer posted:anyone ever run winter motorbike tires? omg I want those for my next winter/rain bike (a SM most likely)
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Feb 9, 2014 06:31
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Xovaan posted:Enjoy them dude. I've got about 6k on my PR3's and they still handle like the day I got them. The mileage on them is fantastic, on my Triumph 600 the PR3 rear went for 12.5k miles and the front is 13k and counting. If any Ninja 250 riders are looking for a change in direction with their rubber, the Pirelli Sport Demon is worth a try. Went with a Sport Demon on the back for my most recent replacement. Its performed well in every condition and temperature down to 20 degrees and ice, because gently caress that.
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Feb 11, 2014 06:13
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That's one of the things I really wanted, but wasn't getting my hopes up for. That I'll be able to ride on these magical tires for quite some time is really great news. So far I've had them broken in and then taken to the mountains. I'm still holding back, but the difference between how the bike handles, leans, and rides is nothing short of astonishing. I feel like this is what I imagined motorcycles handling like. It flops over into a corner effortlessly, and I feel as stable leaned over as straight up. High speed highway ride smoothness has improved, as well. Love these pr3 and this bike.
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Feb 11, 2014 22:27
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Royale with Cheese posted:The mileage on them is fantastic, on my Triumph 600 the PR3 rear went for 12.5k miles and the front is 13k and counting. It pisses me off when I read these milages on PR3s and I only got 8k, but then other people say "Only 8k!?!!?" so I don't feel so bad. Pilot Roads are great tires for the general street rider imo, they've never done anything I didn't ask of them but still get good mileage.
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Feb 12, 2014 07:05
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I've definitely found the limits of the ContiAttack SM in the wet now. It seems like every other sharp corner I feel it start to get away from me. Not in a dramatic way though, and it's not like I wasn't expecting it; it's as close to slick as it can possibly be while still remaining road legal.Skreemer posted:anyone ever run winter motorbike tires? I think Heidenau are all bias ply tyres, but as a winter tyre it's not like you'd notice the performance difference. You could also look at something like the Goldspeeds I posed before or any block-tread wet tyre. Same thing, super soft, plenty of water-clearing ability. ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 15:36
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I swear the Michelin Pilot Road 4s are just some kind of clever marketing by Michelin to claim the new tires are better than the Road 3s and charge more for em :V I'll probably end up getting a set soon for the VFR, the current Pilot Road 3 set is approaching 11k miles, should last another 2-3k judging by the tread left, pretty impressive for an ST tire. Pretty much perfect tires for a bike like the VFR, have them on my BMW K1200rs as well, they're fantastic. infraboy fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 12:12
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PR3's are perfect for pretty much anything unless you're doing trackdays on a sportsbike. They're just brilliant in every way, they even do a touring rear with a harder compound if you have a cetacean tourer.
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Mar 3, 2014 19:55
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Pro tip: Motomummy sells 120/180 sets of the Dunlop Q3 for $230 shipped. Fill out Dunlop tire rebate here: http://dunloptirerebates.com/pdf/GPQ.pdf Set of 120/180 Q3s for $190.
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Mar 4, 2014 02:17
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Competition Accessories had PR4s for my Striple promoted back for MLK day. Now They don't even show listings for my size anymore. I should have bought the loving things when I had the chance. gently caress it, maybe I'll just buy some Diablo Rosso Corsas and weep every 3 months when I have to replace them. Woo! Compacc got them back in stock and they're ordered. I'm pretty excited to try them out. PadreScout fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 11:39
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I broke down and ordered a set of PR4s for the 650R. Now I just have to let the temps warm up a little bit and let the road clear of salt and I'll get them mounted.
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Mar 30, 2014 17:56
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Does anyone know if PR4's have the same profile as the PR3's? I find myself in need of a new rear and figured I may as well grab a four over a three for the whole £6 of difference.
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Apr 14, 2014 14:30
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They're pretty much the same for profile. They both have a 20|40|20 composition on the rear and a 25|50|25 on the front. The tread pattern is slightly different, but they're more or less the same tire. Michelin is claiming 17% better braking and 20% better tread life on the 4 over the 3.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:22
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I can now comment on the PR4s highway and wet weather performance. Those goddamn tires are just amazing. I got caught in a monsoon this weekend, another one of those "raining so hard water starts forcing its way into my helmet through the vents and blinding me so I desperately exit the road as the world slowly fades to a grey blur" type affairs. AFTER the rain finally let off some so it was not life threatening I boldly sallied forth back onto the highway. It was just like dry pavement. Nothing slippery, nothing wandering- just dead solid tracking and confidence inspiring stickiness even over stripes and such in the road. At one point I even got into a race of sorts with a gentleman in a Rover. Because gently caress that idiot. I was having an adventure and don't you goddamn judge me. Even at foolishly fast highway speed on the wet there was absolutely nothing squirrely or questionable about the performance. I'm pretty sure the PR4 is going to be my new go-to tire for all applications forever, amen.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:19
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I've run 2's and 3's and always found that as long as you don't ask too much of them for the conditions, they hold great. And when you do ask too much they tend to slide a bit but nothing drastic.
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Apr 23, 2014 04:48
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I have an old flattrack bike with 4.00x18 front and rear. I've been able to find plenty of new vintage style tires for it but i was wondering if i can run equivalent metric tires with no problems?
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Apr 24, 2014 07:09
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Yup. Off the top of my head, something in the 140/xx-18 range.
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Apr 24, 2014 07:24
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I thought so, it may be a motorcycle from 1967 but I prefer tires that aren't reproductions of outdated technology.
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TheCoconutman posted:I have an old flattrack bike with 4.00x18 front and rear. I've been able to find plenty of new vintage style tires for it but i was wondering if i can run equivalent metric tires with no problems? conversion chart on revzilla:  http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle-tires-101-guide
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