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ReelBigLizard posted:Whoa, are you running the stock exhaust with the akro map? I've heard warnings against going that, as you end up getting the stock exhaust even hotter. I'm sure I remember hearing about someone setting something on fire doing this. Link? I havent had any issues and the bike runs pretty nicely. I know these bikes like to run on the rich side because of the cooling effect of the gas but I hadnt heard anythig besides that.
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Z3n posted:Link? I havent had any issues and the bike runs pretty nicely. I know these bikes like to run on the rich side because of the cooling effect of the gas but I hadnt heard anythig besides that. I'm trying to find something but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, might have been ADV or the KTM UK forums. Totally anecdotal too, so maybe (probably?) it was bullshit.
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ReelBigLizard posted:I'm trying to find something but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, might have been ADV or the KTM UK forums. Totally anecdotal too, so maybe (probably?) it was bullshit. I haven't noticed the temp gauge going any higher. The (stock) exhaust still burns with the force of a thousand suns, but that's normal. Out of curiousity - do you have any good links on tuning ont he 690s? I remember there was a german forum where a guy mentioned that the ideal A/F ratio on them is somewhere in the 12.8 range, due to cylinder cooling properties of the fuel. I keep wheelieing gas out of the back so it's hard to tell what the gas mileage actually is. Edit: This guy: http://www.ktmforum.eu/forum3/wbb/690-supermoto-690-smc-690-enduro-690-duke/690-lc4-tuning/19947-neues-aus-der-tuning-k%C3%BCche/ I should also probably get an EGT sensor when I start in on this - those seem to be somewhat useful for adjusting timing. Z3n fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 28, 2014 |
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Jan 28, 2014 19:41
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Z3n posted:I haven't noticed the temp gauge going any higher. The (stock) exhaust still burns with the force of a thousand suns, but that's normal. On supermoto junkie there was a thread by intune who tried a fair bit in getting his SMC tuned right, seemed he spent a fair bit of time, money and dyno work to test it all out. I'm on my phone right now so I can't easily chase it down.
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I just ordered a ton of parts to try to get my 625 SMC in order. New camshaft (to primarily replace the auto-decomp which I think has gone out), new exhaust and intake cam roller bearings (regular wear items in the LC4 apparently), associated gaskets, a new brush plate for the starter motor, and a new spring for the sprag clutch to hopefully improve starter engagement. Hopefully this fixes all of my issues and get's it back up to being a toy and not a maintenance project.
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Z3n posted:Link? I havent had any issues and the bike runs pretty nicely. I know these bikes like to run on the rich side because of the cooling effect of the gas but I hadnt heard anythig besides that. Theoretically it would run hotter since there would presumably be more unburnt fuel for the cat to burn but I'd guess without the O2 sensor and SAI it wouldn't have the extra air it needs. I suppose it could conceivably run cooler in that case. This is mostly speculation and I could easily be full of poo poo though. Personally I was super happy to ditch the stock exhaust, that thing gets terrifyingly hot and is super heavy and ugly.
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I've been supermoto shopping again, something about the recent tiny amount of snow we got made me want one badly. I'm waiting for one guy to get back to me on "title issues' for a 2008 WR250X (primarily what I've been looking for) but there's been a 2007 Husqvarna SM610 listed for a month or more I'm thinking of going over and taking a look at, have also looked at a few DRZ's but they seem to be horribly overpriced or horribly modified. I think I remember someone in here having a SM610, anything worth noting beyond what's in the ADV SM610 megathread? edit:Found Safety Dance's SM610 helpful posts, might go take a look at it just to see how it is to ride. Further edit: So SM610 vs WR250X for commuting (backroad and highways <60mph) and occasional mountain riding. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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NitroSpazzz posted:I've been supermoto shopping again, something about the recent tiny amount of snow we got made me want one badly. I'm waiting for one guy to get back to me on "title issues' for a 2008 WR250X (primarily what I've been looking for) but there's been a 2007 Husqvarna SM610 listed for a month or more I'm thinking of going over and taking a look at, have also looked at a few DRZ's but they seem to be horribly overpriced or horribly modified. The SM610's ballin' fun if you're willing to accept everything that comes with a rare bike (limited aftermarket and parts scarcity). It's got about 20 extra horsepower in the same weight as a DRZ, it's light and tossable, and really a lot of fun to ride. Having gone from the SM610 to a bike with twice the weight and power, however, I'll say that the SM610 is annoying in how it's not comfortable to go much faster than 70 mph on the Interstate, and it reaaaly doesn't want to go much faster than 80 or 85. Then again, it's a supermoto. They're not for going really fast on the Interstate. It's just a gripe of mine that, living in the middle of a big city, I have to sit on the highway for at least an hour or so to get to interesting roads.
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610 sits in the middle between drz and ktm 690 in terms of just about everything. Engines seem ok unless you get a lemon and they can be a touch more maintenance intensive (cam chain needs to be replaced every so often).
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I own a 2008 Husqvarna sm610 and so does one of my best friends. Parts are limited but I love it! WAYYY more power than a simple DRZ (even with mods, but a slouch when compared to a similar year 690 SMC. It is very low maintenance, however at around 9K-10K miles the cam chain and tensioner, NEEDS to be replaced. As long as this, along with adjustments and oil changes are done, it will run almost as reliable as a DRZ. It isn't snappy like a 450, but it has 6 gears and a sweet set of ratios to boot. However, a STOCK sm610 will not impress you in the least. One of the mods that MUST be done is to either get an aftermarket tuner (PCV, or JD tuner will work), or you must bypass the O2 senser with a jumper and plug. It is super easy to do and there are TONS of guides on thumpertalk and supermoto junkie. Hell, I have a spare jumper I can mail you if you're interested.
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I rode a few supermoto's and even some sport bikes today in weather ranging from 55 and sunny to 33 with sleet, one is now in my garage. I'll do a post somewhere tomorrow but now I'm cold and tired so I'm going to bed. The good news is I'm back on a motard 
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DRZ! DRZ! :usa:
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It can't be a KTM, I have the only one left in this hemisphere.
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Pretty princess SM610!
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I was planning on taking today off to test ride a bunch of bikes and celebrate my birthday but the weather is going to be poo poo so I crammed it in yesterday starting around 10am. Hooked the trailer up to the VW, filled up the tank with diesel, grabbed a big stack of 100's and headed to
In the end I bought the 2008 WR250X and will be riding it into work today. The SM610 was very very tempting and I was asking myself why the hell I was driving hours to go look at the WR after riding it but in the end I wanted a fun to ride bike that I really didn't have to worry about at all, could get parts fast/cheap and had a large after market. Will I regret not getting the SM610? Maybe but worst case at the price I was able to get this WR I could sell it in a month or two, pick up a SM610 and come out ahead. If the SM610 would have been fuel injected don't start a FI vs carb rant and had a properly done exhaust I likely would have picked it instead. So 2008 WR250X (<4k miles) with FMF powerbomb/Q4 full exhaust, power commander, stealth-ish tail lights and some nice hand guards with built in blinkers is my new commuter. Now to sell off some of the other bikes. Z3n posted:It can't be a KTM, I have the only one left in this hemisphere.
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NitroSpazzz posted:So 2008 WR250X (<4k miles) with FMF powerbomb/Q4 full exhaust, power commander, stealth-ish tail lights and some nice hand guards with built in blinkers is my new commuter. Now to sell off some of the other bikes. Uhh, this describes my bike exactly except for the mileage. Let me know if you like your fuel mapping, and if you do could you pull the file from your power commander? When I got mine the map file notes said it was for a completely different exhaust and header. I was able to find one for a similar set up which increased my fuel mileage and made the file response feel better, but I don't know if it's the best it could be.
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NitroSpazzz posted:If the SM610 would have been fuel injected don't start a FI vs carb rant and had a properly done exhaust I likely would have picked it instead. If you decide to go the SM610 route, look for an 08+. Those were fuel injected. Most of the mouthbreathers on SupermotoJunkie, thumpertalk, etc, are talking about the carbureted SM610, though, so you have to learn to mentally separate one from the other.
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Koruthaiolos posted:Uhh, this describes my bike exactly except for the mileage. Let me know if you like your fuel mapping, and if you do could you pull the file from your power commander? When I got mine the map file notes said it was for a completely different exhaust and header. I was able to find one for a similar set up which increased my fuel mileage and made the file response feel better, but I don't know if it's the best it could be. Safety Dance posted:If you decide to go the SM610 route, look for an 08+. Those were fuel injected. Most of the mouthbreathers on SupermotoJunkie, thumpertalk, etc, are talking about the carbureted SM610, though, so you have to learn to mentally separate one from the other. NitroSpazzz posted:In the end I bought the 2008 WR250X and will be riding it into work today.  I may have to look into a silencer insert, Q4 is loud.
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You'll have fun on the wr for a bit and then get tired of the lack of power and want something with a bit more kick. But if you got a good deal on it, its a great play bike.
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I have been bikeless since I moved to the big city almost a year ago. WR was near the top of my list for fun, simple, cheap, in town bike. I wonder if I would get tired of it... my last bikes were a tuono, b12s, and a vfr for a few months that felt like a dog. Oddly enough had an SV trackbike and never wanted anything for that(trackday/racing) with more powaaa. I guess the KTM 1290R will be out soon, though, as an alternative.
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Last night I vividly dreamt I was on my commute to work, backing the 690 through corners like a pro. Waking up was more frustrating than being interrupted in a sex dream 
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I used to have those dreams about wheelies. Then I learned to wheelie and discovered it's just as magical as the dreams made it out to be. My favorite part is when you have a really quick clutch up and it feels like your motorcycle became an elevator for a moment.
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NitroSpazzz posted:It feels pretty good from the ride in but I couldn't play with it too much (cold, rainy, traffic). Once I get a better feel for it I'll see about messing with it, I have no idea how power commander works at this point but I'll figure it out. I ordered the Q4 because it was supposed to be the quieter of the two 
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NitroSpazzz posted:Will I regret not getting the SM610? Yes. Nah just joshin ya. Both bikes are a sick choice in all honestly. Post some wheelie pics!
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kloa posted:I ordered the Q4 because it was supposed to be the quieter of the two Played on the WR a bunch this weekend and did a bunch of maintenance. I've already put more miles on it than the previous owner did (130) and the little idle issue has cleared up. I need to look at adjusting the suspension because it feels like the rear is wallowing if I get on the gas hard coming out of a corner, though I need roads that aren't covered in sand/gravel/salt/junk to be sure it's that and not the tire spinning. Fun bike and the relative lack of power is handy with my hands made of ham, moves along very good for a 250cc though. drat I missed having a motard.
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NitroSpazzz posted:
What kind of lame only puts 130 miles on a bike?! Especially a supermoto
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hot sauce posted:What kind of lame only puts 130 miles on a bike?! Especially a supermoto Bought it as a first bike, never got license and his parents wouldn't let him leave the neighborhood. Poor bike, messing around in the neighborhood can provide hours and hours of entertainment.
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The day I picked up the SMCR I put 137 miles on it.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:The day I picked up the SMCR I put 137 miles on it. Will they ever bring the 2014 SMC-R to the US? 
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Nidhg00670000 posted:The day I picked up the SMCR I put 137 miles on it. When I picked up my SMC at 4 PM on a Friday I didn't park it at my house until 10 AM the next morning after riding non-stop all night. Nap + Oil change, and back on it until like 2 AM Sunday night. Sleep, work, repeat. I think I was approaching 2k miles on it by the following Friday. FlerpNerpin fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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I suspect Spiffness has us all beat but I did something like 350 the day I picked up my DRZ. Charleston, WV to Washington, DC. It's the ones you love most that know how to hurt you worst.
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I really want a sumo, but I'm poor as gently caress so that's not happening any time soon. I do have a question though, would someone if my size be to big? 6'6 and 300 lbs.
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May need to get the suspension resprung if it's worn at all. Might be kind of saggy. I'd say being tall probably helps if you plan on buying a legit sumo. Dirtbikes are taller than street bikes typically. Some of the KTM's have sky high seating and you can buy extra tall seats from companies like SDG or something super easily. Taller bars should make it fit just fine as well.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:There is no one on earth too tall for a supermoto. I cant speak to the other bikes, but I know you can get springs for a DRZ rated up to like 360lbs of rider Would the valving/damping in the suspension go all to poo poo with that much spring in it?
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Coredump posted:Would the valving/damping in the suspension go all to poo poo with that much spring in it? I dont know what the valving is capable of handling, but from guys that run the biggest springs, either because they weigh 300+lbs, or they are lighter and travel with a bunch of gear, they have nothing but good to say about it. I guess at the end of the day, the more weight you put on the bike, the more spring you need to compensate, so the difference to the shock body is (or should be) negligible if you do it right. Right?
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Baller Witness Bro posted:I can't wait until I make enough money not to worry about how many miles I put on a bike It's pretty nice Schroeder91 posted:I really want a sumo, but I'm poor as gently caress so that's not happening any time soon. I do have a question though, would someone if my size be to big? 6'6 and 300 lbs. I'm 6', 240, and can almost put both of my feet flat on the ground on a DRZ. You'll probably be fine, they're tall as poo poo.
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http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/4334168907.html Anyone have any knowledge on this bike? I'm not actually looking to buy it, just caught my eye and I don't know anyone with firsthand experience on one.
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