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Slime posted:That's actually a fair point. The entire reason spirits possess people when they're weak is so they can snack on their spectral energy to recover. If that spirit, who did seem at least somewhat competent, wanted to posses Max's dad then it must have stood to have something to gain from it. Maybe possession can make someone into a spectral? It's also worth noting here that Max started becoming one almost as soon as he arrived in Mayview, but he fully became one when he was right next to a Tool. It may be possible that the Tool made him into a compatible spectral, rather than him happening to be have the right kind of spectral energy. Answered in the comment section, actually! Right, so a spirit can possess a normal person and slowly turn them into a spectral (via exposure to supernatural phenomena). Until they become a spectral the spirit doesn’t get any energy. This hasn’t been explained in the comic yet.
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Whitenoise Poster posted:This is another thing he told us. If someone who is not a spectral becomes possessed, they slowly become a spectral of the same color of the spirit possessing them. Not been updated recently but: http://paranatural.wikia.com/wiki/Zack%27s_Comments
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Whitenoise Poster posted:This is another thing he told us. If someone who is not a spectral becomes possessed, they slowly become a spectral of the same color of the spirit possessing them. It's just Zack has a bunch of worldbuilding info he knows, and he's a good enough storyteller to only reveal it in the comic when it feels natural or is relevant. It's actually surprisingly cool of him to tell us all this stuff beforehand at all, instead of just saying "read and find out!"
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Fecha posted:Zack did an interview on his stuff! He talks about the development of the story. If you're interested: Holy cr ap the audio q uality on this is hor rible.
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Guys, Johnny is on his way. Bully who can manipulate metal vs punk kid with magnet powers. Whaaaaaaaaaaat!
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kidcoelacanth posted:Holy cr Hey let's make a podcast, a medium that is 100% audio! Let's make sure we know literally nothing about audio balancing or editing!
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Ed mentioned that a spirit can't possess you unless its spectral energy is the same color as your own, and he was real disappointed when he found out because it meant Eightfold couldn't possess him and he'd never be an excrementalist. It took him like three tries to do it.
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But if the host isn't a spectral, the spirit changes them into one that can provide the energy the spirit needs, per Zack's comments.
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http://paranatural.net/chapter-4-page-78 Implications..........
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Well. I certainly wasn't expecting Forge to do that.
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I guess Forge is grabbing as much material for a weapon as he can before the train activates its warping field to push Forge away.
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Forge you dick I hope Spender blinds you into oblivion.
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This might be my favourite alt-text in a while. The mental image it invokes is just perfect.
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Cat Mattress posted:I guess Forge is grabbing as much material for a weapon as he can before the train activates its warping field to push Forge away. It seems like it might be that the warping field only "activates" coming from the front. Which explains how people can board it in the first place.
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Pretty sure the train is going to freak out and regress into a more spirit-y form. Those teeth are looking pretty ominous.
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Cat Mattress posted:I guess Forge is grabbing as much material for a weapon as he can before the train activates its warping field to push Forge away. Or, he could make a door instead. He was warned about Spender, after all.
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Bell_ posted:Or, he could make a door instead. He was warned about Spender, after all. The problem with that is that he still needs the Doorman to open his locket and receive the key. Unless the Doorman's timing is impeccable (admittedly likely in a comic) he's screwed even with the door.
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Roland Jones posted:The problem with that is that he still needs the Doorman to open his locket and receive the key. Unless the Doorman's timing is impeccable (admittedly likely in a comic) he's screwed even with the door. 
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Isabel and Max are really shiny in this one. At least thats what I assume the white spots are supposed to be
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Roland Jones posted:The problem with that is that he still needs the Doorman to open his locket and receive the key. Unless the Doorman's timing is impeccable (admittedly likely in a comic) he's screwed even with the door. He mentioned a gambit, so he might be trying something as simple as enraging the train into attacking both of them. He did restrain himself from taking metal from the ghost train until he figured he was probably going to die anyway.
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A big flaming stink posted:He mentioned a gambit, so he might be trying something as simple as enraging the train into attacking both of them. He did restrain himself from taking metal from the ghost train until he figured he was probably going to die anyway. Could his gambit be 'The train's down, and your only way back into town is if I make us a door'? It doesn't sound like Spender knows of others ways past that barrier.
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Fried Chicken posted:Isabel and Max are really shiny in this one. At least thats what I assume the white spots are supposed to be Also, Isabel is making a really O_O face.
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Calling it now: Isabel's grandfather is a ghost. I don't think he's ever been shown interacting with a non-spectral, and he may have only given Isabel the book (against his better judgement) because it wasn't safe to use it himself anymore. Does he have the same colour energy as her? I'm phoneposting so archive-trawling isn't practical right now.
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A ghost using a tool might be possible, but it still seems unwise to siphon away your energy when you can't regenerate it. That said, if it's possible to use a tool as a blunt object to hit people with without using its powers, that's cool.
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Suaimhneas posted:Calling it now: Isabel's grandfather is a ghost. I don't think he's ever been shown interacting with a non-spectral, and he may have only given Isabel the book (against his better judgement) because it wasn't safe to use it himself anymore. Yeah, he does. When he throws a fit about Isabel missing the perfect center of her training target, he blasts it with a giant beam of red energy. He's also still seems to have legs, which none of the other ghost characters seem to have.
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Doctor_Blueninja posted:He's also still seems to have legs, which none of the other ghost characters seem to have. The others just aren't trying hard enough
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Doctor_Blueninja posted:Yeah, he does. When he throws a fit about Isabel missing the perfect center of her training target, he blasts it with a giant beam of red energy. e: Found him Splicer fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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Doctor_Blueninja posted:Yeah, he does. When he throws a fit about Isabel missing the perfect center of her training target, he blasts it with a giant beam of red energy. He also refuses to keep the plunger because it's useless to him since it's not red. But I don't believe him to be a ghost.
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MikeJF posted:A ghost using a tool might be possible, but it still seems unwise to siphon away your energy when you can't regenerate it. Ghosts can regenerate energy, just slower than tools drain them.
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MikeJF posted:That said, if it's possible to use a tool as a blunt object to hit people with without using its powers, that's cool. PJ could move Max's black-energy bat despite being purple himself, so presumably it is. Though the whole point of the question was Max wanting to give PJ cool powers too.
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Brannock posted:Ghosts can regenerate energy, just slower than tools drain them. Tools only drain energy when their powers are used, though, so far as I can tell? So a ghost would just have to be... judicious in its use.
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MikeJF posted:Tools only drain energy when their powers are used, though, so far as I can tell? So a ghost would just have to be... judicious in its use. And a sufficiently powerful ghost/spirit could probably pair off with a weak one. No real danger of being sucked up when you're ten times stronger than the tool itself.
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Splicer posted:Isn't one of her grandfather's students a nolegsman? Hey wait, he's the guy that says "Our lives for the target!" Little late for that, I think.
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Dr. Buttass posted:Hey wait, he's the guy that says "Our lives for the target!" Little late for that, I think. He's done this before.
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Slime posted:He's done this before. Is that guy actually a ghost? I agree that it looks like his lower half is a ghostly tail in that linked page, but in this one he clearly has a normal lower half. Or maybe the dude who's shouting "Our lives for the targets!" is a different guy. He's got red hair as well, but his hairstyle is different from the red head in the page I just linked to.
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Doctor_Blueninja posted:Is that guy actually a ghost? I agree that it looks like his lower half is a ghostly tail in that linked page, but in this one he clearly has a normal lower half. Are you talking about the guy who kinda looks like Teddy Roosevelt? Because he's dressed differently and has the wrong color energy.
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Heavy Zed posted:Are you talking about the guy who kinda looks like Teddy Roosevelt? Because he's dressed differently and has the wrong color energy. Yeah, the Teddy Roosevelt looking fella. Both he and that ghost-guy have red hair, so I wasn't sure if the ghost tail that I was seeing in this page was actually a ghost tail or if it was just a burst of purple energy from someone off camera that was obscuring Mr. Teddy's legs. I just noticed that the ghost-guy is flaring up a bit of purple energy in his hand though, so I guess that actually is his lower body. Also, he pretty clearly has a shadow on the ground beneath where he's hovering. I probably should have noticed that earlier. 
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Doctor_Blueninja posted:Yeah, the Teddy Roosevelt looking fella. Both he and that ghost-guy have red hair, so I wasn't sure if the ghost tail that I was seeing in this page was actually a ghost tail or if it was just a burst of purple energy from someone off camera that was obscuring Mr. Teddy's legs. I just spent way more time than was necessary reading backwards through the archives until I found a page that definitively showed that ghosts cast shadows. This comic is great, even in reverse.
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blastron posted:I just spent way more time than was necessary reading backwards through the archives until I found a page that definitively showed that ghosts cast shadows. This comic is great, even in reverse. But can non-spectrals see the shadows?
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