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Oldstench posted:So, you've lined them up in the Arrange view like so: Turns out I'm just an idiot. When I was testing the clap I exported, I was just playing it from the desktop through VLC and it sounded like poo poo. It sounds fine when I put it in Ableton, though. This raises another question - how different will a finished song sound once it is exported? Or even just this one clap in a finished song...
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It should sound exactly the same. Do you have some sort of plugin in VLC that affects the audio?
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Oldstench posted:It should sound exactly the same. Do you have some sort of plugin in VLC that affects the audio? ~Check your levels~
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khysanth posted:Turns out I'm just an idiot.
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CoasterMaster posted:Newbie question alert Honestly, you're probably going to have to keep reading analogies until one clicks. Hopefully one posted in here does! I think of a warp marker as an anchor point. Imagine that same rubber band analogy, but you also pinch off a number of places so that the warping applied on one side of the marker doesn't affect the other. Ultimately, you're trying to make up for the variable timing in human response: you want to even out those tempo changes. Warp markers let you adjust the tempo between them.
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. How the hell does warping work in Ableton? I have kind of a vague notion of what it does and I'm able to warp songs decently as long as they are electronic music and have a pretty distinct kick drum in them keeping the beat. The trouble comes when I want to warp full songs that aren't electronic. I've watched a bunch of videos and done some reading, but I still don't get what goes on 'under the hood.' What does a warp marker (and transients) actually do? I want to try my hand at remixing and making mashups (loop based a la Girl Talk and otherwise) and this seems like a crucial step
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I've been building risers using operator/analog/massive run through an FX chain of delays, filters, etc. I've noticed that the recipe to building tension is sound source + delay + pitch bend, etc. is there a way I can capture live audio (like from vocals or someone playing a guitar or keyboard), loop it, and then apply my FX chain to it and create a buildup on the fly?
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ZeldaLeft posted:I've been building risers using operator/analog/massive run through an FX chain of delays, filters, etc. I've noticed that the recipe to building tension is sound source + delay + pitch bend, etc. is there a way I can capture live audio (like from vocals or someone playing a guitar or keyboard), loop it, and then apply my FX chain to it and create a buildup on the fly? Can't you use a return track and sends to accomplish that?
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ZeldaLeft posted:I've been building risers using operator/analog/massive run through an FX chain of delays, filters, etc. I've noticed that the recipe to building tension is sound source + delay + pitch bend, etc. is there a way I can capture live audio (like from vocals or someone playing a guitar or keyboard), loop it, and then apply my FX chain to it and create a buildup on the fly? Have you checked out Live's built-in Looper device? It's perfect for your stated requirements (possibly in conjunction with triggering a dummy clip to automate a pitch rise).
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Picked up Dark Synth today. It chews the poo poo out my system, and I'm rocking a brand new top 2.3 i7. Sounds awesome though. Way cool.
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Is there a series of tutorials or videos that would be especially helpful for a brand new Ableton user with only moderate DAW experience in the past? I've been meaning to learn this for a while and have decided to stop procrastinating.
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Tom Cosm's Ableton videos are pretty good and helped me get to grips with things. He did a really good 10-part series on building a song, the first and second of which are on youtube and the rest are available if you get a subscription to his site. They're a few years old now so they don't cover anything in v9, but that shouldn't matter too much to a beginner. There's a few other videos on his youtube channel that go over Live-9 specifics, and he's been saying for a while that he plans on re-doing the whole series in Live 9 some day.
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Seriously, I can't recommend Tom Cosm's tutorials enough. It's worth the ten bucks or whatever. He goes through Ableton top to bottom, using almost every component and explaining how it works, what it does, and what its role in a song might be. Even if you don't want to create his style of music, I think it's invaluable for understanding many of the nuts and bolts if you've just bought Ableton. With Cosm's tutorials as a base, you can then find a million free YouTube tutorials for making Dubcoregrindstep or whatever specific passion is.
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Ok thanks guys, you've got me convinced! I was hesitant to drop the  but it sounds worth it.
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The LFOs in Bitwig will likely make me jump ship from Live. I'm tired of pissing about setting up and routing additional modulation plug-ins for something as simple as a midi LFO. Ableton should have sorted this out ages ago.
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Max has one right there for ya. Envelope follower too.
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Snowy posted:Ok thanks guys, you've got me convinced! I was hesitant to drop the Is it working right now? Because I get worried when I see a bunch of error messages on a page for two days in a row. (in the "Tutorial Videos" section) If that's just an "I'm not subscribed" thing, I'll check them out.
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Rob Ford, meet Ableton Push: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qbf4i3afoE
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How the heck do you clear automations on arrangement view in Ableton 9? I googled it and got helpful answers like "right click the track and select 'clear envelopes'" but I don't see that as an option.  e.g. how do I remove that track volume automation?
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Select and Ctrl-Delete should work.
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Radiapathy posted:Rob Ford, meet Ableton Push: What in the world is going on in Toronto.
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Radiapathy posted:Rob Ford, meet Ableton Push: I don't pop molly I rock Rob Ford.
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So... Push. Worth the money? Should I wait for a Push 2.0? Now that 9.1 is out, I am thinking about upgrading and just wondering if Push is really worth it. I have a Novation Launchpad, but... I have a really soft spot for well-designed native technology. vvv Ok. 
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Siets posted:So... Push. Worth the money? Should I wait for a Push 2.0? Push is loving rad and worth every penny.
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I just now realized Ableton has actually implemented envelope curves in Live 9 (which was one of my biggest problems with Live), but am I just stupid or is the "knee" of the curve fixed? vvv 
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Your Computer posted:I just now realized Ableton has actually implemented envelope curves in Live 9 (which was one of my biggest problems with Live), but am I just stupid or is the "knee" of the curve fixed? Well, holding and dragging changes it from expo to linear to log shaped. But you can't move the weights (or whatever the points that affect the location of the curve start are called).
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Anal Surgery posted:Seriously, I can't recommend Tom Cosm's tutorials enough. It's worth the ten bucks or whatever. He goes through Ableton top to bottom, using almost every component and explaining how it works, what it does, and what its role in a song might be. Even if you don't want to create his style of music, I think it's invaluable for understanding many of the nuts and bolts if you've just bought Ableton. With Cosm's tutorials as a base, you can then find a million free YouTube tutorials for making Dubcoregrindstep or whatever specific passion is. You made me interested, so I went to the site, read through the "why become a pro member" thingie, clicked the ' Click here to become Pro for only $10 '... It does work, huh.. That's strange. Go back to home page, click the Pro Resources dropdown and "Become a Pro Member".. 50$ for 6 months. That's not 10$ and for a limited subscription that's expensive 
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Compare that $50 to any college level education and consider what you are getting. Education can be expensive, because knowledge often is worth it. The guy is widely regarded as a fantastic resource for a reason. He knows his stuff and has a strong talent for teaching. Plus, I wouldn't be sweating $50 at all when Ableton and Push are setting you back a cool $1200.
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Siets posted:Plus, I wouldn't be sweating $50 at all when Ableton and Push are setting you back a cool $1200. Nice assumption
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echinopsis posted:Nice assumption Feel free to elaborate I guess?
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That most people who use ableton dropped a cool grand on it... as opposed to dropping by their latest black label website and grabbing it free of charge
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echinopsis posted:That most people who use ableton dropped a cool grand on it... as opposed to dropping by their latest black label website and grabbing it free of charge Or, y'know.. used the student discount. Also, I don't own a Push. And I really don't think you can compare a handful of tutorial videos to a college education. It still looks interesting though.
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echinopsis posted:That most people who use ableton dropped a cool grand on it... as opposed to dropping by their latest black label website and grabbing it free of charge Said black label website enthusiasts probably shouldn't be whining about price then if that's how they prefer to go about things. Sorry, I have little respect for people who complain about a dude who is clearly trying to make something for himself, asking for a relatively small amount, and doing a really good job of it to boot. An equivalent audio production course and/or Ableton course at a teaching facility or online can often cost as much as 5 grand. But yeah, "gently caress me for assuming" I guess. Sorry about that. 
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echinopsis posted:Nice assumption Even if you're the piratest pirate who ever pirated you still are spending hundreds of dollars on the hardware, unless you also enjoy shoplifting.
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Siets posted:Said black label website enthusiasts probably shouldn't be whining about price then if that's how they prefer to go about things. Sorry, I have little respect for people who complain about a dude who is clearly trying to make something for himself, asking for a relatively small amount, and doing a really good job of it to boot. An equivalent audio production course and/or Ableton course at a teaching facility or online can often cost as much as 5 grand.  I was kinda trying to say, maybe that's why they're sweating 50 bucks
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echinopsis posted:
Ah, I read it as a "please sir, think of the pirates!" post.  While we are talking learning resources, what is out there for teaching Push's capabilities? Live has always had pretty good documentation, but I wonder if there are other good resources out there? Lots of cool demo videos all over Youtube, but I'm looking for more of a "here is how you get proficient playing it like an actual instrument" step-by-steps.
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Siets posted:Ah, I read it as a "please sir, think of the pirates!" post. It's all good man. There is so much love here sometimes I can't contain myself
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Siets posted:Said black label website enthusiasts probably shouldn't be whining about price then if that's how they prefer to go about things. Sorry, I have little respect for people who complain about a dude who is clearly trying to make something for himself, asking for a relatively small amount, and doing a really good job of it to boot. An equivalent audio production course and/or Ableton course at a teaching facility or online can often cost as much as 5 grand. Holy crap 5 grand. Are these types of courses .... good? Right now I've been learning from mostly YouTube stuff (I've found that Sadowick's videos really helpful). Tom Cosm's videos also look great and I'll probably check them out. (And I got my Push used off eBay, while we're on the subject...  ).
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Does anyone else tend to find instructional videos frustrating as gently caress because they take 30 minutes to explain 1 or 2 ideas that could have been written down and subsequently read in 5 minutes? What I really need to learn is how to actually have musical talent and how to force myself to spend more than an hour on a track.
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echinopsis posted:Does anyone else tend to find instructional videos frustrating as gently caress because they take 30 minutes to explain 1 or 2 ideas that could have been written down and subsequently read in 5 minutes? The MacProVideo courses on Ableton Live 8 (the current version at the time I watched them) really were a huge help for me. I had them playing on one screen while I had my DAW up in another, and I paused and took a lot of notes. They have a couple courses on the Push: Push 101 & Push 201, but not being a Push owner I haven't checked 'em out. The dude who does their Cubase and WaveLab videos is really good too.
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Lynda.com also has Ableton tutorials but I haven't tried them yet. They often have free trials where you can download everything you need.
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