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I think I broke scripting. Chapter 5 sidequest spoilers I think it's really cool that the bosses have revamped conversations and are aware of the time loop going on, but when I got to the Time Mage and Spellsword it played the exact same cutscene as the first time around, they said the exact same things and everything that happened was the exact same. Were they supposed to be slightly different or did a bug happen?
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Gyre posted:Yeah, this is why I've been sticking to it, because usually you get an ~evil church~ (which has its own issues). Combine that with Ringabel's journal and the little cutscene you get from using the AR card from the quickstart manual, and it's clear that there's something going on beneath the surface of JRPG 101.
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Feb 12, 2014 16:48
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I like waking up to my village having upgrades, and new villagers added. 
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I unlock the ability to ablink, do so with a higher level friend on my monk. I walk into the Ruins and suddenly all the monsters are hitting for 100 to 180 and I'm still doing 10 points of damage except on the monk, who is now hitting in the 20s. Is this intended when you ablink? I turned it off and went back in and the monsters are still hitting that hard. I was playing too conservatively, now I'm wrecking them easily enough before they can hit me more than a few times. Still not sure if ablink fucks up monster difficulty, though. AngstPenguin fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 16:55
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Ablink doesn't affect difficult. The orcs are just jerks. You'll find a very good fist weapon in the ruins. Use it.
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Feb 12, 2014 17:17
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Yeah the Orcs were consistently oneshotting Agnes through a default if they focus fired her. I got pretty mad at that but then the game gave me good items and really nothing else has been consistent with that power level.
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Feb 12, 2014 17:25
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Ugh, I'm at chapter 4, and it really feels like the enemies are now just asking me to cheese them. My usual setup gets plastered by some of the enemies even though I'm around level 55 (which I suspect is incredibly overleveled), so either I'm bad at RPGs (which is probably the case), or I'm not abusing Ninjas. I don't want to abuse ninjas though, but any other setup I try just gets me killed, as I can't heal enough to offset the damage I'm taking.
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Feb 12, 2014 17:33
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So I'm probably going to pick this up today for the long snowed in weekend. Any tips for someone picking this up? I kind of perused the last couple of pages and saw to turn off exp for grinding job points, what's that about?
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Feb 12, 2014 17:44
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omnibobb posted:So I'm probably going to pick this up today for the long snowed in weekend. Late game stuff. Don't worry about it. If you progress through the game naturally you shouldn't really ever have to play with the settings.
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Feb 12, 2014 17:47
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I thought Chapter 2 was dark, but the first dungeon in Chapter 3 involves a ghost retelling the story of How he, his comrades, and his duped enemies were massacred by chemical weapons. This game doesn't gently caress around.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:02
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Does Belphegor have a 'base' level? If so, what is it? I beat a level 20 version with a level 22 party, but it took building custom specials for the fight and burning through nearly every attack item I owned. I don't see how Firaja is meant to be survivable at level 20 unless your entire party is Spell Fencers with the Abate Fire support ability. I guess that's fair for an optional boss, but unless you've sent your party down that incredibly specific and specialized path, it would take a ton of grinding.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:06
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Hazdoc posted:Ugh, I'm at chapter 4, and it really feels like the enemies are now just asking me to cheese them. My usual setup gets plastered by some of the enemies even though I'm around level 55 (which I suspect is incredibly overleveled), so either I'm bad at RPGs (which is probably the case), or I'm not abusing Ninjas. I don't want to abuse ninjas though, but any other setup I try just gets me killed, as I can't heal enough to offset the damage I'm taking. Yeah I hit Chapter 4 at level 48 and while I just beat Victor and Victoria no sweat, Im having a LOT of trouble with the normal fights. Plus I finally got the -aga spells but levelling up my jobs to actually use them is a distant dream. The bears can one shot any one of my characters at any time with Bare Claws, shield or no. Goodness! I've been trying to earn enough pg to get the Growth Egg and get some of my jobs levelled up, but holy poo poo is it expensive. I've been trying to abuse an abilinked Big Pharma, but I can't seem to make much money from it--is there a trick I am missing? Does Healing Lore effect it? Also how does Millionaire work? bennyfranks fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 18:13
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Hazdoc posted:Ugh, I'm at chapter 4, and it really feels like the enemies are now just asking me to cheese them. My usual setup gets plastered by some of the enemies even though I'm around level 55 (which I suspect is incredibly overleveled), so either I'm bad at RPGs (which is probably the case), or I'm not abusing Ninjas. I don't want to abuse ninjas though, but any other setup I try just gets me killed, as I can't heal enough to offset the damage I'm taking. I don't think you're overlevelled, I was around there when I started that chapter and finished around 60. Get the Healing Lore ability off salvemaker for your healer, with that I was able to keep everyone alive with just Cure most of the time, only needing Cura for really big group heals. Did you stock up on new armour at the town? If you're having trouble with groups of enemies, sleep (or silence on casters) works wonders. Performer is also great for increasing everyone's defence easily. Edit^ Bare Claws ignores armour, so you need other ways to deal with that. Damage Dispersion to spread damage, or have a swordmaster or ninja draw attacks to themselves with the pirate's Provoke or performer's Catch Me and reduce the damage with Nothing Ventured or evade it with Utsusemi. If there's more than one bear then holy poo poo sleep one of them and keep it that way until the other's dealt with. Suaimhneas fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 18:18
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Annnnd I just realized I got no EXP for fighting Belphegor because I had it set to off. 
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Feb 12, 2014 18:18
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Rangpur posted:Annnnd I just realized I got no EXP for fighting Belphegor because I had it set to off. To be fair, the main reason to go after Nemeses is their buns. Also if everyone could properly use Nemesis for singular and Nemeses for plural that would be wonderful (I don't think I've seen it in this thread but if you just read stuff on Nemesis fights the misuse is kind of spooky).
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Feb 12, 2014 18:20
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Mokinokaro posted:Ablink doesn't affect difficult. The orcs are just jerks. Also Ablink a friend that can let your monk use Natural Talent. I was one-shotting the orcs in that area and the first weapon actually lowered my attack. I was able to wear armor with it though so it wa worth the switch. Rangpur posted:Does Belphegor have a 'base' level? If so, what is it? I beat a level 20 version with a level 22 party, but it took building custom specials for the fight and burning through nearly every attack item I owned. I don't see how Firaja is meant to be survivable at level 20 unless your entire party is Spell Fencers with the Abate Fire support ability. I guess that's fair for an optional boss, but unless you've sent your party down that incredibly specific and specialized path, it would take a ton of grinding. I don't think it's the level they suggest for you to fight it but the monster's own level, because at level 10 beelzebub will still wreck your poo poo without a ton of luck/ablink help. Spell Fencer is great for dismantling Belphegor. Tiz and Edea both have sword magic on and Tiz has thievery with ablink access to Godspeed, which on non-crits would still do 7-8k damage with the right -ra blade setup while Ariel Slayer let Edea do 4-5k hits. I could see beating him around 20 but you'd definitely need abate fire or fire resist accessories to avoid getting one-shot by magic.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:22
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Someone who's beat the game tell me if I hosed up big time. Kinda big, big spoilers. Was going through chapter 5 and reawakening the crystals and Airy told me to stop. I accidently pushed the button again and noticed I could keep going. What the heck I just saved let's see what happens. Now Airy is a disgusting monster and I'm at the finale?? I uh... I skipped a few steps didn't I.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:22
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Someone who's beat the game tell me if I hosed up big time. Kinda big, big spoilers. You've just unlocked the "regular" ending. If you hadn't destroyed the crystal, you would've eventually come to the true ending.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:33
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Someone who's beat the game tell me if I hosed up big time. Kinda big, big spoilers. Just keep playing. After you finish the "normal end" the game will dump you in the dungeon before you destroyed the crystal
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Feb 12, 2014 18:34
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FrickenMoron posted:Just keep playing. After you finish the "normal end" the game will dump you in the dungeon before you destroyed the crystal Given the length of the game it's really good that they let you do this instead of trying to go through everything afterward without saving.
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Airy is telling me it's good that I've gotten so powerful, meanwhile I'm getting my poo poo pushed in by every bear in the woods.
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Rangpur posted:The story beats in the game are all pretty well-worn so far but I'm intrigued by the way the pieces fit together. They're lampshading the hell out of Eternia's opposition to the crystals so I'm already expecting (still in chapter 2 fwiw) they'll turn out to be at least partially correct. My personal theory at this point is that the former vestal there decided she could get stuff by threatening people with her crystal's power. There's also the possibility that (spoilers for FF 3) having light all the time is a bad thing, and what's happening is stress as the crystals change into dark ones for the next few thousand years. The world is called Luxendarc, after all. Edit: I'm also guessing that using asterisks drives you slowly insane. Gyre fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 18:47
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Someone who's beat the game tell me if I hosed up big time. Kinda big, big spoilers. If you go all the way to the final chapter (which involves sliding to a different universe like 3-4 times and never breaking a crystal) you get the third form and the true final boss afterwards.
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I'm in Vampire Castle right now, and Lester's backstory is really drat interesting. I guess it IS here that you learn that the orthodoxy isn't all sunshine and daisies.
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Can someone Covering an attack for their teammate evade that attack? edit: Yes they can! bennyfranks fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 19:04
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Just got the normal ending. Final boss spoilers Airy is way harder in the true ending right? Read that there's a third form but man, Tiz just guzzled down elixers while dual wielding axes as a pirate and just a constant stream of 9999. I killed the second form right after it healed itself. Also Airy's trash talk is hilarious
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Feb 12, 2014 19:29
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In chapter 3 I was doing the subquest involving the fog, but I accidentally hit the "let it pass" option and now the fog won't respawn..Do I have to do something special?
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Feb 12, 2014 19:37
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Just got the normal ending. Final boss spoilers Airy is way harder in the true ending right? Read that there's a third form but man, Tiz just guzzled down elixers while dual wielding axes as a pirate and just a constant stream of 9999. I killed the second form right after it healed itself. Also Airy's trash talk is hilarious Also final boss spoilers: In my opinion, third form Airy is THE toughest non-optional boss in the entire game.
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Feb 12, 2014 19:42
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So, this Red Muleta accessory you can buy in Norende. The description says it "increases your aggro level." Does that mean enemies are more likely to target the character that has it equipped?
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Feb 12, 2014 20:00
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Ibram Gaunt posted:In chapter 3 I was doing the subquest involving the fog, but I accidentally hit the "let it pass" option and now the fog won't respawn..Do I have to do something special? I did the same thing and it respawned the next night in a totally different spot. First time was south of Caldisla and the second was way further south.
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Bongo Bill posted:So, this Red Muleta accessory you can buy in Norende. The description says it "increases your aggro level." Does that mean enemies are more likely to target the character that has it equipped? Yup
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Question about sending attacks: I hit 4500+ by targeting an aerial enemy with the lv. 1 bow special keyed to its elemental weakness plus the anti-aerial add-on. If someone else uses this attack, does it do the flat 4500 damage, or is it reduced according to the different elemental weakness/monster types?
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Rangpur posted:Question about sending attacks: I hit 4500+ by targeting an aerial enemy with the lv. 1 bow special keyed to its elemental weakness plus the anti-aerial add-on. If someone else uses this attack, does it do the flat 4500 damage, or is it reduced according to the different elemental weakness/monster types?  So, the power value that is sent will say 4500 but the damage dealt will be a lot less unless the victim is also elementally weak and a flier. maketakunai fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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I'm still only in Chapter 1. Just bought the Angel Bow and am absolutely annihilating dudes. That's with a bow that I purchased though, not found. Does the game provide opportunity later for side exploration that rewards you with cool poo poo? I mean, the game obviously takes some of the best stuff from old FF games, so I'd imagine yes. But so far the stuff in chests has been not very good. I just remember how much fun it was to hunt down the crazy powerful items in FF6.
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Dr. Glasscock posted:I'm still only in Chapter 1. Just bought the Angel Bow and am absolutely annihilating dudes. That's with a bow that I purchased though, not found. Does the game provide opportunity later for side exploration that rewards you with cool poo poo? I mean, the game obviously takes some of the best stuff from old FF games, so I'd imagine yes. But so far the stuff in chests has been not very good. I just remember how much fun it was to hunt down the crazy powerful items in FF6. To be fair, you didn't find ludicrously powerful stuff in ff6 either until you hit the second half of the game. There are usually one or two items that punch above their weight class for the area that you're in, and a scattering of useful accessories laying around that can be effective in various situations. I'm only just starting chapter 4 though, so I haven't seen anything too crazy endgame except for a shield that nullifies two elements.
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Dr. Glasscock posted:I'm still only in Chapter 1. Just bought the Angel Bow and am absolutely annihilating dudes. That's with a bow that I purchased though, not found. Does the game provide opportunity later for side exploration that rewards you with cool poo poo? I mean, the game obviously takes some of the best stuff from old FF games, so I'd imagine yes. But so far the stuff in chests has been not very good. I just remember how much fun it was to hunt down the crazy powerful items in FF6.
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Is there a way to cheese the secret boss? It's just occurred to me that other than the autosave, there's no actual save if i die. I've been ploughing through all of the bosses with the Knight/freelancer supercharge & mimic combo to deal out 9999 damage for every attack, but i've been reading up on the Adventurer and he has something like 500,000 HP and a parter that constantly revives him unless you kill him too. Oh and he apparently revives his parter if you kill that first. I'm level 99 with every job mastered with every character and about 2.5 Mil in pg if there's some way to cheese him with the merchant. I've only got 1sp too if there's some way i can use that to abuse some kind of super attack that will kill them both in one turn. (i could probably go into deficit with this too). I figure i'd use the SP with something but don't want to waste it on doing it wrong as it's probably going to be necessary to beat him easily.
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Loving the design of the Summons so far. The way they gradually assume more bestial forms just strikes me as a nice touch. As for earning the Summoner job... Jesus Christ.
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Rangpur posted:Loving the design of the Summons so far. The way they gradually assume more bestial forms just strikes me as a nice touch. As for earning the Summoner job... Seriously, is this Final Fantasy or Drakengard
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Rasamune posted:Seriously, is this Final Fantasy or Drakengard Why can't it be both?
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