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Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Most drastic change on my 61 monk is his combat HP regen is now almost as high as his tank merc.

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Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.
It appears the autogrant is granting too much.

My 87 ranger was autogranted Entrap Rk 3, which the AAinfo page tells me requires level 86. He has 6457 AA's from the autogrant.

Does Test ever rollback? If not, suggest logging on RIGHT NOW for free extra AA's!

Edit: The 87 has no AA's that he can purchase, except the ones that were excluded like baking mastery

Also, the Spellcasting Subtley line was not excluded like they promised. I foresee the need for a lot more testing with this patch.

Devor fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Feb 13, 2014

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



That owns, keep us updated.

Can you /resetaa the autogranted AAs, then zone to get them all granted again?

jetz0r fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Feb 13, 2014

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

jetz0r posted:

That owns, keep us updated.

Can you /resetaa the autogranted AAs, then zone to get them all granted again?

Dare I dream to touch the sky?

Edit: /resetaa doesn't refund points for the autogranted ones, but it does remove them. They track separately "Assigned" and "Total Spent". I suspect Total Spent AA's, which aren't autogranted, would refund points from /resetaa

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
So I reset my AAs before the patch and when I clicked "auto-grant enabled" under the AA window it granted me all the aas up to 85. I also now have the 4k or so AAs I earned and reset before the patch to spend.

edit: went from a lil over 4K AAs to over 9k AA's. This patch owns.

slave to my cravings fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Feb 13, 2014

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

Thanks for the free AA's for all my alts Sony cuz my SK can still swarm Grounds :smugdog:

Now that I know I can with most CDs under 15 minutes I need to figure out what the minimum used would be, preparing to die a poo poo load tonight to find out.

Midnight City fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Feb 13, 2014

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

funzo2226 posted:

So I reset my AAs before the patch and when I clicked "auto-grant enabled" under the AA window it granted me all the aas up to 85. I also now have the 4k or so AAs I earned and reset before the patch to spend.

edit: went from a lil over 4K AAs to over 9k AA's. This patch owns.

Did your autogrant stop at 85? What class?

Fake Edit: The forum thread seems to be confirming it's going through House of Thule AA's and level 90, instead of Underfoot and Level 85. Jesus christ, guys.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
I guess I didn't check what level it granted up to, but either way Jesus Christ. I would have never gotten another 500aas in this game if I even wanted to. Now I might dick around a bit more.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.
The way they kept mentioning that auto-grant would exclude only the 4 most recent expansions, I'm betting they were trying to get cute and automate it so that it checked the AA's expansion number against the current number, and hosed up a less than / equals or something.

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy
Neato now my little poo poo army has max aa for their level.

2/3 of my 85s have rear end gear though. Anyone have some testcopied poo poo for an 85 paladin/mage? Looks like the old harpies bank got cleaned the hell out.

I have some voa patterns but i don't even know how to turn them in :v:

Escape_GOAT
May 20, 2004

I just logged in post-patch and /resetaa, then zoned and I have all of the autogranted ones plus 3560 banked that I was refunded. Awesome. So awesome.

Edit: gently caress over 9000 aa now lol

Escape_GOAT fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Feb 13, 2014

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
Yeah I have a grand total of 5714 assigned with 1700 banked, how wonderful.

Dubious, rustic armour is super easy to acquire. Here's a guide.

edit: Is it just me or do mage beam spells have really screwy AoE templates now?

acumen fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Feb 13, 2014

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

There's no way they're not going to change something again, the only thing that's changed is 5-6,000 free AA's and my SK goes from swarming half of grounds every 6 minutes to every 11 minutes. Plus now the PLing from 1-85 takes 2 hours instead of a hell of a lot longer due to stopping and getting AA's.

My prediction is they finally get rid of DS killing.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

What a joke that AA thing is.

I'm maxed out now at 96 and still have 740 banked, and I think someone said, but just to confirm, those will never wipe?

Essentially I can level to 100 if I really feel like it and never have to grind an AA?

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die
I was pretty burned out grinding AA on my 3 box but this is going to be enough to get me back in the game.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Shrapnac posted:

What a joke that AA thing is.

I'm maxed out now at 96 and still have 740 banked, and I think someone said, but just to confirm, those will never wipe?

Essentially I can level to 100 if I really feel like it and never have to grind an AA?

Haha, that's hilarious. I haven't really seen many people reporting "free AA's are going up to level 96", but it may be that they're trying to keep their mistaken gains.

Has Test done rollbacks for this sort of thing before? I'm not sure how else they fix this.

Edit: I don't want to do a bunch of grinding if it might get wiped out. I could see a wipe so that "we can test the auto-grant" some more.

Devor fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Feb 13, 2014

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
The free AAs aren't going that high. We just have that many banked AAs from resetting that we can essentially max every AA line as we level without grinding more.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

acumen posted:

The free AAs aren't going that high. We just have that many banked AAs from resetting that we can essentially max every AA line as we level without grinding more.

Ah, I see. I didn't catch the implication that the banked AA count had been dwindling, spending them to max as they leveled. That's less severe, then.

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Devor posted:

Haha, that's hilarious. I haven't really seen many people reporting "free AA's are going up to level 96", but it may be that they're trying to keep their mistaken gains.

Has Test done rollbacks for this sort of thing before? I'm not sure how else they fix this.

Edit: I don't want to do a bunch of grinding if it might get wiped out. I could see a wipe so that "we can test the auto-grant" some more.

Why would they care about resetting test? It's already full of live server duped gear. Who cares if people on test can generate unlimited aa.

Stanos
Sep 22, 2009

The best 57 in hockey.
lol if you think they give a poo poo enough to reset/rewind test for AAs. All you'll do is cap AA, get bored and quit. What are you going to do to progress after that? Raid? Do the same dungeon corridors and bore yourself to death?

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!
Only reason auto granted AAs get so high is from /resetaa and you can't use that on live so I wouldn't think they would care to fix it.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

acumen posted:

The free AAs aren't going that high. We just have that many banked AAs from resetting that we can essentially max every AA line as we level without grinding more.

This. I had 3500AA before the AA grant.

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!
Isboxer has built-in twitch streaming support just now. Pretty dang cool. Lavish is loving great

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Are monks still meh in DPS and other classes have similar tools for pulling? Re subbed the other day for shits and giggles. Wondering whether my 94 monk is still a bit ''grey and dull'' in terms of what it can offer a group.

BlueChocolate
Jan 4, 2014

This has got to be a whole new level of crazy even for mmo players.

So which one of you goons made "love" to lillywhite? Also, is she still around for those still playing?

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

BlueChocolate posted:

This has got to be a whole new level of crazy even for mmo players.

So which one of you goons made "love" to lillywhite? Also, is she still around for those still playing?
No idea, but on a related note, I went through all of High Keep the other day and found the "casino" with the bulletin board. Alas, it no longer works, can't read nor post anything. :(

Meow Tse-tung
Oct 11, 2004

No one cat should have all that power

Pilsner posted:

No idea, but on a related note, I went through all of High Keep the other day and found the "casino" with the bulletin board. Alas, it no longer works, can't read nor post anything. :(

Yeah, sadly. I think that broke when they implemented the luclin patch. I used to use the qeynos tavern bulletin board a lot. It was such a cool touch, even if most players didn't know it existed.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



PrathunSOE posted:


Also coming, but not yet listed in the patch notes:
• Ceremonial Elixir of Scholarship is no longer tradable on the Firiona Vie server.

Fair warning that if you have any of these leftover from previous anniversary events, you'll want to move them to a character that will find them useful before our next patch.

Welp, get hosed FV.

Someone did point out that any character can pull No Trade items from a guild bank or shared bank slots. So get to making some dummy guilds to store your exp potions.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

They couldn't make it anymore obvious that this is all schilling for heroic characters if they actually tried. Really on the ball with the hot button issues of 2005 SOE :thumbsup:

MrTheDevious
May 7, 2006

Ahh nostalgia, you cruel bitch

Midnight City posted:

They couldn't make it anymore obvious that this is all schilling for heroic characters if they actually tried. Really on the ball with the hot button issues of 2005 SOE :thumbsup:

I don't think they care. I was pretty meh gently caress Sony about it, but then I talked to people on Test and they're all chomping at the bit to drop $25 to skip 2 hours of a box's leveling effort, so I guess good for Sony dragging idiots over the coals and taking all their cash.

In any case, two of my three characters now have enough AA banked to max for the next 2-3 expansions and I have even less incentive to play since the third's a bard and who cares what his AA count is

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

MrTheDevious posted:

I don't think they care. I was pretty meh gently caress Sony about it, but then I talked to people on Test and they're all chomping at the bit to drop $25 to skip 2 hours of a box's leveling effort, so I guess good for Sony dragging idiots over the coals and taking all their cash.

In any case, two of my three characters now have enough AA banked to max for the next 2-3 expansions and I have even less incentive to play since the third's a bard and who cares what his AA count is

It's only going to be $25 for an 85 with max AA's? They might get the first station cash out of me. Assuming that they also come with a set of 85 gear, spells ready, etc.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

MrTheDevious posted:

I don't think they care. I was pretty meh gently caress Sony about it, but then I talked to people on Test and they're all chomping at the bit to drop $25 to skip 2 hours of a box's leveling effort

How do you get 1-85 in two hours? My last box took 7 hours to get 1-80, though I probably suck at powerleveling since I'm using a beastlord. If I can spend $25 to save 8 to 10 hours of boring tedium, I'd do it.

Stanos
Sep 22, 2009

The best 57 in hockey.
2-3 hours is good if you're a SK/well geared druid with a bard. If I had a druid geared like jetzor's I could probably do AEDS up to like 80. After that would suck rear end though. I don't know about mage nor do I give a poo poo. Obviously AAs take longer (but not now :v:).

What I used to do:

- /testbuff, hand over Oil of Fennin Ro if there's no pbae on my PLee.
- Place near the stone hive zone in, all the bees and bixies in one pull
- Good 1-2 pulls in Dulak's/Gunthak
- Crypt of Nadox across the bridge (luggalds one pull, undead another, usually punch lesson here for AA and camp to save it during repops. You can do it all in one pull but good luck not lagging it the gently caress out or crashing the zone)
- Crypt of Decay. Same deal, rats one pull and undead another.
- Depends on hotzone. Fire field works, haven't tried c1 but this is where big masses of mobs would kill my druid or my merc in a bad round. Wall of Slaughter works, Paw is also nice if you aren't leaning on oil. You also have to remember that omens mobs run fast as poo poo and have dumbass procs/spells that can mess with your pull.
- Direwind Clefts. Didn't get too far here since this is really where I had to be careful on my druid. 50+ mobs had the chance to stop my fast heals and gently caress me.

MrTheDevious
May 7, 2006

Ahh nostalgia, you cruel bitch
$25 is what they charge for the same in EQ2 so I'm just guessing, doubt they've said anything concrete about it yet though.

PLing is stupid fast and easy when you do it with an SK and bring along boxed mage and bard. The DS is so huge with the trio that everything up to 80 just falls over dead. I move to Grounds swarming at 70 because it's even stupider xp, but just DS PLing in general is silly fast with SK/bard/mage all. Blightfire puts you at 40 in one pull, Nadox to 60, Fire to 70, Grounds past that. Up to 80 or so it's one-two pulls per zone then move on. There's probably even better zones than mine honestly

^^ You can do all of Fire field + C2 in one pull and be done with the zone if you're an SK :smug:

MrTheDevious fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Feb 15, 2014

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Devor posted:

It's only going to be $25 for an 85 with max AA's? They might get the first station cash out of me. Assuming that they also come with a set of 85 gear, spells ready, etc.

quote:

Argon1: As far as the heroic toons go, during the release in EQ 2 you gave 1 heroic to everyone who had an account, are you playing on doing the same when u release them in eq 1
Thom Terrazas: We are discussing something very similar, yes.

Should be cheaper than $25 if you hop on it early!


saintonan posted:

How do you get 1-85 in two hours? My last box took 7 hours to get 1-80, though I probably suck at powerleveling since I'm using a beastlord. If I can spend $25 to save 8 to 10 hours of boring tedium, I'd do it.

Practice, and having an SK + dmg shield class. Plus the test exp bonus helps a bit.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



jetz0r posted:

This zone path for damage shield PLing that I got from a guildie worked out pretty well. You'll need a stock of Oil of Fenin Ro from the Ragefire merchant in SolB. Most of the mobs will use undead aggro, so be careful when popping off potion nukes. Other than that, standard DS PLing stuff. The zones are picked for places with good mob density and social aggro.

Pick up the ground spawn in Icefall Glacier - Shattered Krithgor Keystone (ground spawn near spell vendors: -2035, -1155), turn it in to Librarian Hemfar on the first floor of Crescent Reach. This gives a ton of exp, during double exp it shot me to level 15.

Undead area in CR. Couple pulls of everything.
Bixie area in Blightfire. Watch out for the huge named, it rampages which can kill the newb.
Acrylia Caverns. Can also get a pull in with the mines outside.
Crypt of Decay. I also did some Plane of Valor around here.

The last few levels to 70 still feel awkward, I was trying to do those in Direwind, and it didn't feel like enough. But once you get them to 70, you can group with a 100 and plow things for exp.

Dug back for this. Acrylia is a good spot and easier to run to than LoY zones. I can just use my druid for all the pulls up till CoD/PoV, and only have to switch over to the SK if I want to pull most of those zones at once. Direwind is the next spot I go to, because I can port right next to a bunch of mobs. Those start hitting a bit too hard to mass tank as a druid without a clr merc up.

The gap between low 60s and being able to group with 100s is the worst part. If you're using the ae pots, you can't pl in PoFire and every non-pof zone sucks.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

60-70 can be done in two pulls in DSH, pull the entire farm and the clockworks and bring them into the corner of the biggest wheel, my SK could do it in lovely VoA group gear so it shouldn't be a problem for anyone now. The mobs have less HP than Crypt of Decay so I prefer it over CoD.

Also prefer Mistmoore from 25-45, can do it all in one pull for 20 levels, might not be great if you don't know the zone because there's a lot of false walls you need to go through.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
How are you guys holding aggro on the character who gets the DS? I've been using my healer merc to sit there and generate a ton by healing the gently caress out of everything but every now and then when I bring my PL character in to use an Oil he just gets creamed.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

If you're using non-aggro generating abilities like an SK/bard has, you need to always make sure the low level toon stands further away from the mobs than the one doing just the healing. An easy way to do it is to just make sure you're standing on the other side of the healer/one getting hit by the mobs, so he'll always be closer to them.

The other way is to just make sure you do a poo poo load of healing before you have the person AE.

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Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

I think they've pretty much killed MQ for Test at this point, Redguides hasn't had a compile up since before the AA patch and mmobugs just had one up today but it's now obsolete since Test had another patch an hour ago.

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