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Captain_Indigo
Jul 29, 2007

"That’s cheating! You know the rules: once you sacrifice something here, you don’t get it back!"

Re: Sin City

It also get mirrored a little later on when the sex worker who sells out the assassins says that she did it because "they threatened my mom" and the main girl (Roxie?) is really dismissive and implies they could have protected her and she just did it for the money.

Marv signs the confession when they threaten his mom - good person.
That girl sells her crew out for cash, then uses her mom as an excuse - bad person.

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Mr. Kurtz
Feb 22, 2007

Here comes the hurdy gurdy man.

Captain_Indigo posted:

Re: Sin City

It also get mirrored a little later on when the sex worker who sells out the assassins says that she did it because "they threatened my mom" and the main girl (Roxie?) is really dismissive and implies they could have protected her and she just did it for the money.

Marv signs the confession when they threaten his mom - good person.
That girl sells her crew out for cash, then uses her mom as an excuse - bad person.

That's a good point. After all, the movie seems to be mostly about the process by which the characters avoid or take responsibility for the "sins" they commit.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Nikaer Drekin posted:

I love Jackie Brown.

After Louis's little... "fling" with Melanie, he and Ordell discuss Ordell's relationship with her at a bar. Louis asks him, "But... but what is she to you?"

The song playing in the bar is "Who Is He (And What Is He to You?)" by Bill Withers.

Hah, that's awesome. That song is on the Bill Withers CD I have in my car CD player, right now, and I've often wondered how come it isn't more popular* in movies and pop culture, in general. It's so perfect for gritty/urban cheatin'-spouse moments.

* Along with I Wish You Well, The Same Love that Made Me Laugh, and so many others. The guy has hits and well-known songs, but he should have more.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Mr. Kurtz posted:

I also got around to watching The Crying Game which I had no idea was on Netflix instant watch. I remember lying there half-cogent and then all of the sudden giving a :stare: when it's revealed Dil is a man.

I watched the Crying Game with a room full of college students during an English class, and I was the only one who knew that spoilered bit before the reveal, because there are a lot of _____drag queens_________ in my family. It was amazing watching everyone else's reactions, though.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Just watched Back To The Future II for the billionth time and needed the trivia track on the bluray to point out that not only have they still not fixed the clockwork mechanism in the clock tower, they still haven't fixed the chunk of concrete that Doc Brown broke off in the first movie. Also, it isn't explained in the movie, but the reason Old Biff was in pain when he returned to 2015 is because he was fading from existence, having been shot by Lorraine sometime in the 90s (good for her).

I disagreed with the trivia thingy though when it supposed that the Letterman jacket in the closet of Future Marty's house belonged to Marty's daughter's boyfriend because when Present Jennifer first dives in there you can read that the name starts with "Jenn" so its probably hers from highschool.

Fl0yd
Apr 30, 2004

Judge Judy and executioner?
Han Solo resents C3PO for being able to speak more languages than he can. Solo speaks to Chewie, Greedo and Jabba without the need for a translator, but when he meets C3PO, his skills pale in comparison. Most of the main characters find threepio annoying, but no-one more than Solo.

The first shot of the first Bourne film, and the final shot of the third Bourne film are almost identical - Bourne floats motionless in water and initially, we aren't sure if he's alive or dead. Water is also present when Bourne is first attacked by a fellow Treadstone agent (Marie is running a bath), and Marie dies underwater in the second movie. Bourne later discovers that his original persona, David Webb, was waterboarded before joining the program.

Crimson Tide has some really ham-fisted use of colour. Once the drama reaches the second act, members of the crew that side with the Captain (Hackman) are usually lit in red, or appear against red backgrounds. Hackman himself wears a red baseball cap. Washington and those loyal to him are seen in a blue hue, wearing blue, or against a blue background. Viggo Mortensen's character, Weps, cannot decide who to be loyal to, and is mainly lit like this.

Comms remain neutral throughout the film and only serve to inform the audience of goings-on outside the submarine environment - they're lit in green to separate them from the battle for control of the vessel.

Fl0yd has a new favorite as of 14:07 on Feb 13, 2014

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Some stuff from Back To The Future III:
  • When Marty is in 1955 saying that "Clint Eastwood never wore anything like this" there are two movie posters in the background for movies in which Clint Eastwood had uncredited roles.
  • If you look closely in the background when Doc and Marty are at the train station using the map to plan their train heist you can see Clara Clayton waiting for someone to pick her up.
  • When Marty first walks into town, the stagecoach that almost runs him over belongs to Wells Fargo and would have made themselves a robbery target had they stopped.
  • Just like in 1985 and 1955, Doc lives in his lab that is in the closest thing 1885 has to a garage (a horse barn).
  • Doc's bandanna is made from his faded 2015 shirt.
  • In a callback to the first movie when Lorraine's brother says that Marty must be rich to have two television sets, the wealthy 1955 Doc Brown is shown to have two televisions.
  • 1955 Doc once again tells Marty that no one should know too much about their own destiny...until he sees his tombstone and immediately goes to the library. I assume he started piecing together Marty's letter from the first movie as soon as he left.

Goofus Giraffe
Sep 26, 2007
Just watched Some Like it Hot for the first time.

1. Sugar's costume during "I Wanna be Loved by You" (apologies for the odd expression in the screenshot):

Although Marilyn Monroe wears a number of relatively revealing outfits during the film, this one is the most revealing one. In the scenes where she wears this one, she rarely appears in a frontal shot and is instead typically shown angled in some way, or with her chest covered by something else, and so on. The few shots where she fully faces the camera are fractions of a second long, and are typically medium-long shots. During this song sequence, however, we see her head-on in a lengthy medium-close shot, with that shadow across her as seen in the image. Throughout the scene, the shadow shifts across her, but never goes lower than in the included screenshot, like a continuous robing/disrobing.

Why is this significant? Well, the movement of this shadow is more or less director Billy Wilder's way of winkingly skirting around the Hays Code, which prohibited, among other things, films from having "Any licentious or suggestive nudity-in fact or in silhouette." Obviously, the code had relaxed a tad by this time, but was still certainly present: Some Like it Hot did not actually receive Production Code approval (assumedly more for its content than for Marilyn Monroe's boobs). The shadow-and-light contrast of this sequence and its relation to the production code also ties in with Billy Wilder's experience in directing films noir. Some Like it Hot itself is essentially a hybrid film, a mix between a film noir and a screwball comedy. When Billy Wilder uses the shadow to poke at the Hays Code, he is also winking back to the Billy Wilder who directed Double Indemnity and Sunset Boulevard, and to the generic conventions of those films.

2. Multiple times throughout the film, Joe/Josephine and Gerald/Daphne say that they have type O blood. I'd argue there are that this plays into the film's overarching theme of fluidity of identity, so long as you adopt a somewhat simplified model of blood types. That is, with type O, blood can 'play the part' of A, B, or AB, just as our protagonists can be men or women, rich or poor, etc. Those are binaries, and A, B, AB is a crowd, so we might account for AB in this model if we consider Joe/Josephine in his guise as Junior as fitting in between gender roles, since he is a heterosexual male who plays the passive role sexually, and is briefly coded as homosexual. I know that it is problematic to deem "A" as female and "B" as male and then conclude that "AB" would be a passive/homosexual male, but the film was made in 1959, after all.

3. Last thing (please pardon the passing resemblance of this screenshot to a certain overplayed meme)

"Wow, wow," said the pier to the mid-century sex symbol.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Wow, Some Like it Hot is one of my favourite movies and I'd missed like - all of that. I need to watch it again.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Cat Hatter posted:

Some stuff from Back To The Future III:
  • When Marty is in 1955 saying that "Clint Eastwood never wore anything like this" there are two movie posters in the background for movies in which Clint Eastwood had uncredited roles.
  • If you look closely in the background when Doc and Marty are at the train station using the map to plan their train heist you can see Clara Clayton waiting for someone to pick her up.
  • When Marty first walks into town, the stagecoach that almost runs him over belongs to Wells Fargo and would have made themselves a robbery target had they stopped.
  • Just like in 1985 and 1955, Doc lives in his lab that is in the closest thing 1885 has to a garage (a horse barn).
  • Doc's bandanna is made from his faded 2015 shirt.
  • In a callback to the first movie when Lorraine's brother says that Marty must be rich to have two television sets, the wealthy 1955 Doc Brown is shown to have two televisions.
  • 1955 Doc once again tells Marty that no one should know too much about their own destiny...until he sees his tombstone and immediately goes to the library. I assume he started piecing together Marty's letter from the first movie as soon as he left.
Nice. I'll take this opportunity to bring up Rick and Morty.

THEY'RE ALIVE! THEY'RE IN CARTOON FORM, AND NOT NECESSARILY CANON, BUT THEY'RE ALIVE!

Captain_Indigo
Jul 29, 2007

"That’s cheating! You know the rules: once you sacrifice something here, you don’t get it back!"

Goofus Giraffe posted:

Just watched Some Like it Hot for the first time.

This is amazing, thanks so much for it.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

KoRMaK posted:

THEY'RE ALIVE! THEY'RE IN CARTOON FORM, AND NOT NECESSARILY CANON, BUT THEY'RE ALIVE!

I see what you did there. :golfclap:

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Not really a subtle moment, but I love how outraged Robert Downey Jr's character in Tropic Thunder got when he found out Four Leaf still had his hands after all.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Not really a subtle moment, but I love how outraged Robert Downey Jr's character in Tropic Thunder got when he found out Four Leaf still had his hands after all.

My favorite thing with his character was that he doesn't break character during the DVD commentary.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

^^^ What a pro!

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010
One of my favorite Subtle Movie Moments is a recurring one in the James Bond movie series. It's easy to miss at first, because they never straight-up tell you what's going on, but when you know what to look for, and pay attention to the dialogue and visual cues, there's a lot of scenes where they subtly hint that James Bond is doing some loving.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

James Bond fights for King and Cuntry

JesustheDarkLord
May 22, 2006

#VolsDeep
Lipstick Apathy

little munchkin posted:

One of my favorite Subtle Movie Moments is a recurring one in the James Bond movie series. It's easy to miss at first, because they never straight-up tell you what's going on, but when you know what to look for, and pay attention to the dialogue and visual cues, there's a lot of scenes where they subtly hint that James Bond is doing some loving.

My personal theory is that every Bond girl is the same woman.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

JesustheDarkLord posted:

My personal theory is that every Bond girl is the same woman.

My personal theory is that James Bond enjoys having sex with hot babes and that's why he does it so much in the movies.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

That's unfounded munchkin. What kind of debonair super spy with ultra machismo would enjoy having lots of hot sex with gorgeous women?

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

mind the walrus posted:

That's unfounded munchkin. What kind of debonair super spy with ultra machismo would enjoy having lots of hot sex with gorgeous women?

Sometimes he's pretending to be other people during the sex, so he could just be doing it it to remain "in character". But other times he's not pretending but still does the sex, so I think he really does like it.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I never really understood why my mother hated James Bond, since it seems in the movies he's just really good at seduction, but then I read "Casino Royale".

Book James Bond is a pretty huge rear end in a top hat.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

Professor Shark posted:

I never really understood why my mother hated James Bond, since it seems in the movies he's just really good at seduction, but then I read "Casino Royale".

Book James Bond is a pretty huge rear end in a top hat.

Your mom probably watched the older movies when he was allowed to slap dames around.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

Professor Shark posted:

I never really understood why my mother hated James Bond, since it seems in the movies he's just really good at seduction, but then I read "Casino Royale".

Book James Bond is a pretty huge rear end in a top hat.

Even in the older movies a lot of his "seduction" is basically just assault and rape. There was one of the Sean Connery movies (wanna say From Russia with Love) where a woman is trying to leave and he pins her to the couch and starts kissing her while she's yelling no and for him to stop.

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted
Women resisting initially but giving in 'cause the guy is such a good kisser is pretty common in movies made before, say, 1995.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

the gently caress happened to this thread

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Mierenneuker posted:

the gently caress happened to this thread

Don't fight it, just let it happen.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Supreme Allah posted:

Your mom probably watched the older movies when he was allowed to slap dames around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0d1zTAFKA

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Rocky raped Adrian.

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Rocky raped Adrian.

That's exactly what I thought first time I watched it.

Hell in Back to the Future they keep Biff around even though both parents were witnesses to him trying to rape Lorraine.

Ho Chi Meeeeee
Jun 13, 2008

let me shovel out your brains
hang my image in your skull
so I can be the vision
in your nightmares from now on

Neo Helbeast posted:

Even in the older movies a lot of his "seduction" is basically just assault and rape. There was one of the Sean Connery movies (wanna say From Russia with Love) where a woman is trying to leave and he pins her to the couch and starts kissing her while she's yelling no and for him to stop.

:stare: Come the gently caress on, really?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
Revenge Of The Nerds too. Legally Lewis raped Betty by pretending to be her boyfriend, but the rape was so good that she started dating him instead of having him arrested. Also he sold everyone in school naked pictures that he took of her with a hidden camera.

edit: I think there should be a comma in there, but I'm going to leave it because I like the thought of a character called "Legally Lewis".

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

oh em gee bee ess posted:

:stare: Come the gently caress on, really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pUXH1Bye88

Foreplay, according to James Bond.

cofaigh
Dec 30, 2006
Ha ha... dangly parts

oh em gee bee ess posted:

:stare: Come the gently caress on, really?

[edit] beaten to the punch, so to speak.

...and in the book of Goldfinger, where Pussy Galore is written as a lesbian, Bond rapes her in the barn. Awful stuff really. Each actor to play Bond interpreted him differently, Connery's Bond was an absolute poo poo.

Another moment from Goldfinger; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNGYRKBfHA

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


In High Planes Drifter, Clint Eastwood rapes a woman (for about 10 seconds, I guess he is a premature ejaculator),she tries to kill him, but in the end falls in love with him.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012

oh em gee bee ess posted:

:stare: Come the gently caress on, really?
Then there's the shower scene from Skyfall where Bond has one conversation with a women in which he finds out that she's been a sex slave since she was a kid. Then later, he sneaks up on her in the shower and grabs her. The woman looks really freaked out at first but then goes along with it. There's also a good chance that she only did it because she was scared. I personally think that scene was creepier than the part when Silva ties Bond to a chair and starts fondling him.

Edit: Thought this was the irritating movies moments thread for a second.

Celery Face has a new favorite as of 23:21 on Feb 15, 2014

Ho Chi Meeeeee
Jun 13, 2008

let me shovel out your brains
hang my image in your skull
so I can be the vision
in your nightmares from now on

cofaigh posted:

[edit] beaten to the punch, so to speak.

...and in the book of Goldfinger, where Pussy Galore is written as a lesbian, Bond rapes her in the barn. Awful stuff really. Each actor to play Bond interpreted him differently, Connery's Bond was an absolute poo poo.

Another moment from Goldfinger; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNGYRKBfHA

Both of you are seriously looking for things to be offended about. Bond is a suave, confident alpha male who happens to be a bit caddish. He fits perfectly with his era, and in case both of you haven't noticed it's a movie not real life. Deal with this reality for gently caress's sake.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

MRA thread is the other way.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Deckard was a little fresh with Rachel in Bladerunner.

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Ho Chi Meeeeee
Jun 13, 2008

let me shovel out your brains
hang my image in your skull
so I can be the vision
in your nightmares from now on

Aphrodite posted:

MRA thread is the other way.

Oh man, my ears are burning red now. I'm feeling a tonne of second-hand internet embarrassment. How about you buy a clue and realise that it's a movie and it fits in with how James Bond is as a character and not an example of why Sean Connery is a oval office because lets face it he's a oval office for a load of different reasons not because of how he portrayed James Bond.

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