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I finally got around to playing the HD version of Mirror of Fate, and I kind of like it. I guess I am preparing myself for the release of Lords of Shadow 2. So far the boss battles have been the most interesting part
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What'd you like about it? Everyone else I've talked to said it was awful.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:42
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Anatharon posted:What'd you like about it? Everyone else I've talked to said it was awful. So far I like the boss battles the most, and while I don't think the exploration is nearly as deep as the metroidvanias, I think it has been enjoyable. I also think they have done a great job at taking old Castlevania lore and making it their own.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:52
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There's a Lords of Shadow 2 demo out. I could really forgive the direction the series was going if the devs actually knew how to make a combat system that didn't feel clumsy and weak.
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Feb 13, 2014 02:49
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Dracula vomiting his insides all over a blue crystal cracked me the gently caress up.
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Feb 13, 2014 04:04
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Heads up: if you pre-order Lords of Shadow 2 through the PSN, you get Mirror of Fate HD for free. My main complaint with that game was the original 3DS being too drat small for my hands, so I'd love to try it with the benefit of a controller.
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Feb 14, 2014 17:08
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timeandtide posted:Heads up: if you pre-order Lords of Shadow 2 through the PSN, you get Mirror of Fate HD for free. My main complaint with that game was the original 3DS being too drat small for my hands, so I'd love to try it with the benefit of a controller. Its not good with any controller. As a free pack in though you can suck its enjoyment dry without getting totally ripped off.
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Feb 14, 2014 17:09
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The LOS2 demo was pretty fun, the changes to the light/dark mechanic seem way better. Block vs dodging is a bit touchy though, especially since dashing is the only way to move faster in combat. They really shoehorned in that "What is a man" line though.  The end of it mentioned Simon Belmont too, what's his deal in the series now? I thought Mirror of Fate was about Trevor, but I didn't play it.
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Feb 14, 2014 17:46
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RBA Starblade posted:The LOS2 demo was pretty fun, the changes to the light/dark mechanic seem way better. Block vs dodging is a bit touchy though, especially since dashing is the only way to move faster in combat. They really shoehorned in that "What is a man" line though. Mirror of Fate was Simon and Trevor. Basically Trevor went to fight Gabriel and got killed. He had a kid before he died and that kid is Simon. Trevor died but was resurrected as Alucard.
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Feb 14, 2014 17:47
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^ might want to spoiler tag those, I enjoyed mirror of fate, but play it on a lower difficulty because the enemies suck up damage ro a ridiculous extent. it's a passable remake of CVI/III, and I was motivated enough to 100% it after i was done.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:51
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Full Battle Rattle posted:^ might want to spoiler tag those, Im enjoying it too. Some of the boss battles are really fun.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:53
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The only reason I 100%-ed Mirror of Fate was because it was so easy and everything was blindingly obvious and out in the open.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:54
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Full Battle Rattle posted:^ might want to spoiler tag those, Thats literally the opening cutscene though? Minus the Alurcard is Trevor thing but you'd have to be braindead not to figure that out when the game hamfistedly infers it every single moment that it can as early as it can in the game.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:54
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NES Simon Belmont's weird hunched-over walking sprite looks like someone in the throes of a nightmare who can't unclench his dream body from the position that his real sleeping body is in. This can't be intentional, yet owns.
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Feb 14, 2014 20:13
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Is it just me or was there too many flashing effects when you hit with any weapons? Half the time I couldn't make out where Dracula/Gabe was due to the weird explosions on screen. This game looks great but i'm on the fence, to me the blocking and dodging seem clunky coupled with the flashing effects means it's very difficult to react to attacks. Also Gabeula almost instinctively vomiting all over the crystal was hilarious.
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Feb 17, 2014 14:39
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It's not you - half the time you really can't see the enemy you're attacking (who may or may not be about to hit you) from behind the effects
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Feb 17, 2014 14:56
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The good news, though, is that you can turn off QTEs in the menu!
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Feb 17, 2014 15:23
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It feels weird that they'd keep the QTEs in at all if it's always as simple as "Mash anything when the rings collide". Also does the weird bats that indicate where your jumping to look really lovely to anybody else. It looks like a jpeg of bats and smoke wobbling over an area.
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Feb 17, 2014 16:34
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So the controversial scene leaked. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LgRxFK7fCzk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLgRxFK7fCzk Dunno if its worth discussing as rape chat always goes horribly but here it is. Its pretty uncomfortable yes.
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Feb 20, 2014 00:29
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Golden Goat posted:It feels weird that they'd keep the QTEs in at all if it's always as simple as "Mash anything when the rings collide". I did not realize they were Bats until you said this. I thought they were a smoke cloud.
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Feb 20, 2014 00:32
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quote:So the controversial scene leaked. I'm not seeing rape or anything there, though it is pretty uncomfortable. He chokes her out then bites her neck. e: VVV I mean besides the themes inherent in the concept of vampires. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Feb 20, 2014 |
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Feb 20, 2014 00:35
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I can sort of see how you can make the connection considering the themes from Bram Stoker's Dracula. But it most definitely can trigger something in survivors.
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Feb 20, 2014 00:42
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Uncle Wemus posted:So the controversial scene leaked. Looks like standard horror movie stuff. Not even uncomfortable just yep that's a vampire all right.
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Feb 20, 2014 00:45
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Uncle Wemus posted:So the controversial scene leaked. The worst part of the video was the guy being dismissive of the article. The scene definitely had overtones of rape, but as other posters habe said, nothing out of place for a vampire movie. Still, personal comfort is a case by case basis and whoevet wrote the article felt it was out of their comfort zone. Where's the controversy?
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Feb 20, 2014 01:00
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Always found it strange that people forget that vampire mythology has had blatant sexual undertones since the beginning. It was originally about creepy older ("foreign") men piercing innocent young virgin maidens and making them bleed. The entire thing is about creepy rapists. That's why vampires are EVIL, not Twilight-sparkly highschool romance.
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Feb 20, 2014 01:13
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I think it's pretty reasonable to approach it from the perspective of vampires started about rape but are so commonly not about rape that it doesn't make rape inherently not out of place if it appears in a vampire fiction. Castlevania has always been fairly light on the serious sexual imagery vampire stuff. It's been mostly blah blah suck your bluhd stuff. So it's pretty understandable that someone could be comfortable with most of Castlevania and be bothered when this one takes it off in the traditional direction that wasn't really there even in LoS. That doesn't make it not an understandable direction for the creators to go in, but it also doesn't mean it's inherently 'wrong' for someone to not want to see it in their goofy B-Movie game about fighting werewolves and anime fistfighting Satan. Mister Roboto posted:The entire thing is about creepy rapists. That's why vampires are EVIL, not Twilight-sparkly highschool romance. That boat has long since sailed, bro. Vampires have been 'sexy' or tragic-wooby or even flat-out heroic since looooong before Twilight. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Feb 20, 2014 |
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Feb 20, 2014 01:17
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I got the same semi discomfort from God of War 3 when it switches to first person to kill Poseidon and Zeus. Also choking a defenseless Hera. Granted GoW was always violent but first person made it weird.
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Feb 20, 2014 01:25
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Switches to second person for Poseidon. That's really why it probably felt weird.
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Feb 20, 2014 01:32
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Speedball posted:Switches to second person for Poseidon. That's really why it probably felt weird. Oh yeah you gouge the eyes.
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Feb 20, 2014 01:49
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Golden Goat posted:Is it just me or was there too many flashing effects when you hit with any weapons? Half the time I couldn't make out where Dracula/Gabe was due to the weird explosions on screen. Budohead posted:It's not you - half the time you really can't see the enemy you're attacking (who may or may not be about to hit you) from behind the effects 
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Feb 20, 2014 02:30
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ImpAtom posted:Castlevania has always been fairly light on the serious sexual imagery vampire stuff. It's been mostly blah blah suck your bluhd stuff. So it's pretty understandable that someone could be comfortable with most of Castlevania and be bothered when this one takes it off in the traditional direction that wasn't really there even in LoS. That doesn't make it not an understandable direction for the creators to go in, but it also doesn't mean it's inherently 'wrong' for someone to not want to see it in their goofy B-Movie game about fighting werewolves and anime fistfighting Satan. LoS had the "suck blood from a 12-year old vampire girl and kill her in the process" scene from the DLC, which I thought was way more disturbing than this. Castlevania has always been horror-centric, and there has been some pretty messed up stuff in the series before, including sexual undertones (mostly involving succubi). This new game is about playing as the villain, in which case I think it's more justified (or at least honest) than something like God of War, where you're essentially playing as a violent psychopath who's made out to be a tragic hero. I don't know, I don't blame anyone for being disturbed by that, but I also like that there's some "bite" to this game where you play as loving Dracula fighting Satan. For whatever reason it doesn't come off nearly as cynical to me as all the sexual stuff in, say, Dante's Inferno, which was just so loving gross and lame all the way through.
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Feb 20, 2014 03:05
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I was actually disappointed that Dantes Inferno DIDNT get crazier and just got boring after lust and gluttony.
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Feb 20, 2014 03:55
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ImpAtom posted:That boat has long since sailed, bro. Vampires have been 'sexy' or tragic-wooby or even flat-out heroic since looooong before Twilight. Blacula had the beautiful tragic vampire romance back in the 70s, and there's no way that movie came up with it. gently caress, even Castlevania had Symphony of the Night. Maybe you guys have played it? It was kind of an obscure entry in the series. It's just cool to hate on Twilight because people like hating on things teenage girls like. It's not because it FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED VAMPIRES OH NOOOOOOOOOOO.
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Feb 20, 2014 16:28
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Well, I think it's cool to hate on Twilight because those books/films are rear end from a butt  I don't hate them for ruining vampires, though, they're just kind of dumb and lame. Like the whole point of Carmilla was that vampires are sexy and mysterious and tragic, that I don't have a problem with. There are still plenty of awesome vampire stories being written today (see the comic American Vampire). The thing is, vampires aren't zombies, they're essentially human, which is why they can be actual characters that are capable both good and evil deeds. I do like it when someone bucks the trend and makes them out to be loving scary, though, which is something I would like to see in a Castlevania game where you are playing as Dracula, lord of darkness.
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Feb 20, 2014 17:00
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MarsDragon posted:Blacula had the beautiful tragic vampire romance back in the 70s, and there's no way that movie came up with it. gently caress, even Castlevania had Symphony of the Night. Maybe you guys have played it? It was kind of an obscure entry in the series. Judging from your arguing skills you should write for Twilight.
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Feb 20, 2014 17:05
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StevenM posted:Judging from your arguing skills you should write for Twilight. Oh no! Such an incisive and cutting argument! I am undone!
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Feb 20, 2014 18:15
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Twilight changed vampires fundamentally by turning them into whiny pussies that sparkle in the daylight, not by making them sexual/romantic creatures.
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Feb 20, 2014 19:11
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After going through the demo I've come to the conclusion that this is definitely a "wait for deep bargain/rent" game. The atmosphere seems like it'll be great again and there is the teasing promise of turning into a gigantic dragon at some point but the combat is still sorta bland.
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Feb 20, 2014 19:14
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Monkey Fracas posted:After going through the demo I've come to the conclusion that this is definitely a "wait for deep bargain/rent" game. The atmosphere seems like it'll be great again and there is the teasing promise of turning into a gigantic dragon at some point but the combat is still sorta bland. I've been wavering between this and 'gently caress, a new Castlevania game, gotta buy' for like a week now.
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Feb 20, 2014 19:18
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I've been going through Mirror of Fate and holy poo poo is that game awful, so this will probably seem like a revelation by comparison.
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