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Dominic White posted:No levelling. There's a video somewhere showing how you're meant to play the Fencer - it's the crazy-technical class. You can cancel out of shooting/blocking animations to dash-dodge almost constantly. Oddly enough, it's the fastest class. EDF!
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Dominic White posted:The game is up on the US PSN store. $50 with a $18 season pass. Anyone stateside want to split the cost on that? $34 each for Ultimate Bug Slaying Power? PM me (or email jdtarason@gmail.com, I guess) if you're in the US and can buy. Or you could just support the developers of a niche series by not gaming a loophole in PSN "shares".
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Douche4Sale posted:Or you could just support the developers of a niche series by not gaming a loophole in PSN "shares". you should probably just buy two copies to make up for it
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Is there a way to mute or at least quiet the civilians? I've just started and holy poo poo are they annoying but I don't want to turn off voices since that will mute my allies too.
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Feb 19, 2014 01:30
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Dominic White posted:No levelling. There's a video somewhere showing how you're meant to play the Fencer - it's the crazy-technical class. You can cancel out of shooting/blocking animations to dash-dodge almost constantly. Oddly enough, it's the fastest class. As someone who does main Fencer, the class is pretty much unplayable without either an Air Raider buddy or learning the dash cancel. You're just excruciatingly slow. But learning the dash cancel (the basic one, at the very least), is really easy. You just need to have a shield and a melee weapon equipped at the same time. Dash, reflect, dash, reflect. This will get you across levels shockingly fast. Anyways, while this game does still suffer somewhat from the same-weapon-higher-stats issue, it really is much reduced, and there are amusing gimmick weapons of varying levels of utility spread throughout the whole difficulty curve. I just wish less Fencer missile launchers required an Air Raider buddy...
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Feb 19, 2014 01:31
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Cowman posted:Is there a way to mute or at least quiet the civilians? I've just started and holy poo poo are they annoying but I don't want to turn off voices since that will mute my allies too. Every class carries at least two items that can make civilians shut up.
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Feb 19, 2014 01:49
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Infinity Gaia posted:As someone who does main Fencer, the class is pretty much unplayable without either an Air Raider buddy or learning the dash cancel. You're just excruciatingly slow. But learning the dash cancel (the basic one, at the very least), is really easy. You just need to have a shield and a melee weapon equipped at the same time. Dash, reflect, dash, reflect. This will get you across levels shockingly fast. Am I missing something with the Fencer's artillery cannon? It feels like anything short of a direct hit does nothing, but it *looks* like it has a splash effect.
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Feb 19, 2014 01:57
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So I guess when you're in an online room and the other players have PLAY behind their info card they're currently in a stage and you should just wait for them to finish?
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Feb 19, 2014 02:01
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Dominic White posted:No levelling. There's a video somewhere showing how you're meant to play the Fencer - it's the crazy-technical class. You can cancel out of shooting/blocking animations to dash-dodge almost constantly. Oddly enough, it's the fastest class. That's awesome to hear. I was worried that I'd be a bit bored as the Fencer with lack of movement capabilities. What's kinda the breakdown on how the Ranger and Air Raider play?
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Feb 19, 2014 02:04
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general chaos posted:I think that's incorrect. Right, but someone earlier was asking if there'd be a second save to transfer to a different 360.
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Feb 19, 2014 02:07
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Brackhar posted:That's awesome to hear. I was worried that I'd be a bit bored as the Fencer with lack of movement capabilities. Ranger is the dude from every other EDF (lots of weapon variety, no special abilities). Air Raider is an odd one; you can fly. You have an energy bar that limits the flying; it slowly recharges. Every time you reload, you use a certain amount of your energy determined by weapon to reload the weapon. Certain weapons fire directly from your energy bar rather than requiring a reload (mostly continuous laser type weapons)
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Feb 19, 2014 02:16
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Lynx Winters posted:Every class carries at least two items that can make civilians shut up. They even scream when dead 
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GOT A EXTRA TITTY posted:Ranger is the dude from every other EDF (lots of weapon variety, no special abilities). That's wing diver. Air Raider is the one that calls in air support. Speaking of which, I really really want to hear the satellite blast radio operator's voice in english. I hope she also screams "SATELLITE BLAST!!!!" like she was a dbz character.
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Cowman posted:They even scream when dead As an aside, I have never seen that smiley before and it's amazing.
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Is there any reason whatsoever to limiting civilian casualties? They start (well, continue) screaming when they get scooped up by a ravager, and you can save them, but should I bother?
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Feb 19, 2014 02:29
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Brackhar posted:As an aside, I have never seen that smiley before and it's amazing. I was thinking the exact same thing right now. Also, the Air Raider is a bit fiddly, especially in the early stages, but I'm quite enjoying him. The ability to call in a tank whenever I want helps a lot.
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Feb 19, 2014 02:31
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Computer Opponent posted:Is there any reason whatsoever to limiting civilian casualties? They start (well, continue) screaming when they get scooped up by a ravager, and you can save them, but should I bother?
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Feb 19, 2014 02:32
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So I decided to go back and play the first few missions on harder difficulties to see what they were like and maybe get better guns. I've been running assault rifle/rocket launcher as the Ranger. And within two stages I got a P78 Pound Gun (L3 - do levels mean anything?) and a L17 Goliath D1. And holy gently caress, dude! That Goliath? It is absolutely amazing. 600 damage, 5s reload, 1 capacity. I don't see a rocket. I see a trail of flaming bloom and then multiple buildings blow up and any bugs around it fly 2 miles into the air. It is loving incredible! And it has a scope! And then the Pound has ricocheting bullets! And it was twice the damage as my assault rifle for the same clip size and reload speed! I'm gonna see how high up I can go on these first three stages, see what kind of crazy rocket launchers I can find. I've never made such happy noises when playing a game as I did when I fired the Goliath and an entire city block blew up. This is incredible.
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Feb 19, 2014 02:34
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The "level" of each weapon is used to denote ranges of power, essentially. Some lobbies can restrict level ranges of weapons for use on different difficulties. So that people don't come into low level games and spam their genocide cannons.
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Feb 19, 2014 02:38
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God drat this is so fun. My XBLA name is the same as my forum name if anyone wants to play, although my mic is acting up at the moment.
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Is it just me or did the researcher sound like Drunk George Takai?
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Relentless posted:Is it just me or did the researcher sound like Drunk George Takai? I thought the same thing. I'm just going to assume it's him, because it's funnier that way. I hope he starts getting progressively gayer as the levels go on. Anyway, since I bought two copies of this, if anybody's got a non-amazon pre-order bonus that they'd like to trade for my extra amazon code, let me know. Computer Opponent fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Feb 19, 2014 |
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Computer Opponent posted:Am I missing something with the Fencer's artillery cannon? It feels like anything short of a direct hit does nothing, but it *looks* like it has a splash effect. It's only on direct hit, but since it's piercing, it can sometimes LOOK as if it has a splash effect.
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Computer Opponent posted:Anyway, since I bought two copies of this, if anybody's got a non-amazon pre-order bonus that they'd like to trade for my extra amazon code, let me know. I've got a Gamestop code for 360 - definitely willing to trade. email me: trunten8 at that hotmail thing Anyone else feel like Wing Diver is going to dominate the game for the first few weeks?
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general chaos posted:I've got a Gamestop code for 360 - definitely willing to trade. Wing Diver probably has the best effort-to-power ratio, and being able to you know, fly, makes them easily the most maneuverable class. Plus they have more interesting equipment, as a general rule, than the other easy class, the Ranger. Not that the Ranger weapons are boring, it's just that Wing Diver gets a laser chainsaw so you know. Air Raider is somewhat too support-oriented for most people, even though it gets some seriously hilarious attack options later on (Orbital Cannon <3). And Fencer is the class that takes the most effort and skill to play properly. When you do, they're a serious force of destruction, but it can be really tough to get there. Speaking of the Fencer and being a force of destruction, I just got a sword that, when fully charged, shoots a sword beam at a longer range than most of my actual ranged weapons. It's amazing.
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There's no way to get manual aiming like Fencer on the other classes is there? I need to go back and play 2017 because I don't remember the auto aim being so twitchy.
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Obsurveyor posted:There's no way to get manual aiming like Fencer on the other classes is there? I need to go back and play 2017 because I don't remember the auto aim being so twitchy. There's auto aim!? I didn't even know that was a thing, and I play every class a little bit. Is that a menu option somewhere?
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I haven't noticed auto aim on my fencer because I was busy dual wielding gatling guns and laughing my rear end off. I can't figure out how to dodge those red flashing spider tractor beams with the flying class, though.
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Infinity Gaia posted:There's auto aim!? You can't not auto aim as the Ranger or Pale Wing as far as I can determine. It really sucks too when there's some ant 50 feet in the sky that my dude just won't stop trying to shoot. Makes flying tough as well.
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I only noticed auto aim on a few weapons - specifically for some, but not all of the vehicle weapons. I always assumed that one of the genius things about EDF is that you can avoid the need for auto-aim by making your targets giant loving monsters. But the wonky controls on the helicopter can make it a little necessary.
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Obsurveyor posted:You can't not auto aim as the Ranger or Pale Wing as far as I can determine. It really sucks too when there's some ant 50 feet in the sky that my dude just won't stop trying to shoot. Makes flying tough as well. But I play as Wing Diver on occasion and I don't... Oh wait, do you have your controls set on Simple? I think that automatically turns on auto-aim.
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Infinity Gaia posted:But I play as Wing Diver on occasion and I don't... Oh wait, do you have your controls set on Simple? I think that automatically turns on auto-aim. It's "Technical" and "Normal" and I just figured out what Technical means... This makes things much better.
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So any word on split screen 2nd players keeping their unlocks or do they just use what player 1 unlocked?
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So anyone else who bought a physical copy of the game, did you not get an instruction manual? I can't help but feel like GameStop is ripping me off somehow, as there was absolutely nothing in the case except for the game.
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So I'm playing on PS3 and having a blast so far, but while I expected the series trademark bad framerates I didn't expect them to be as bad as they are. I'm used to playing 2017 on 360 and it's overall framerate was without a doubt a few orders of magnitude higher than 2025 on the Triple. Even when nothings going on and all the enimes are dead, I still get what I'd guess is around 15 fps on this game. By contrast, when there were no enemies alive in 2017, things would be almost even smooth at around 30fps. The Japanese PS3 footage I've seen on youtube mostly seems to run at a higher fps than I'm getting on my system. Could there be something wrong with my PS3 that might cause this? Anyone else on PS3 experiencing surprisingly low frame rates, even for an EDF game?
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Seiren posted:So anyone else who bought a physical copy of the game, did you not get an instruction manual? I can't help but feel like GameStop is ripping me off somehow, as there was absolutely nothing in the case except for the game. Opened shrinkwrapped from Amazon: nothing in my PS3 box but the disc. loving love Air Raider now. Nothing like bringing the framerate to it's knees with a howitzer strike and calling in the Whale to mow poo poo down while trucking in my tank. Unless you're real trigger happy, there's plenty of time for it to reload before you run out of ammo.
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incorporeal posted:So any word on split screen 2nd players keeping their unlocks or do they just use what player 1 unlocked?
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Seiren posted:So anyone else who bought a physical copy of the game, did you not get an instruction manual? I can't help but feel like GameStop is ripping me off somehow, as there was absolutely nothing in the case except for the game. D3 did this with IA too. They're here for PS3 and here for XBox
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Kammat posted:D3 did this with IA too. They're here for PS3 and here for XBox That's strange. I got a manual in mine (PS3) when I bought it used from Gamestop. It was in English AND French!
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