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Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Mecca-Benghazi posted:

Recently, my mother bought an AT&T Lumia 520 for her nephew and sent it overseas thinking they could unlock it there. They can, but it's kind of expensive, relatively speaking. So I'm thinking that in a few weeks when we hit the 60 days with AT&T mark, I can just unlock it through AT&T's official online thing with the IMEI. The only problem I can see is that there's never been an AT&T sim card inside. But that shouldn't affect it, right?
This was sometime back, but I used the online unlock thing and they emailed me the code within two days. Probably helps that the 520 is a low-end phone and I had all of the required information. :toot:

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Skychrono
May 11, 2007

I'll make you cry like I did when my daddy died!
I just bought my wife an iPhone 5s from BestBuy.com, thanks to the $50 off promotion.

It was on my upgrade, on the family plan. When I go in, will they require me to activate it against my number - at which point I'll need to go to the AT&T store to switch it back to current phone? Or can I just tell them to activate the PHONE but not attach my number to it?

I know it's a Best Buy question, technically, but I imagine AT&T employees deal with outside purchases a lot. Thanks!

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Skychrono posted:

I just bought my wife an iPhone 5s from BestBuy.com, thanks to the $50 off promotion.

It was on my upgrade, on the family plan. When I go in, will they require me to activate it against my number - at which point I'll need to go to the AT&T store to switch it back to current phone? Or can I just tell them to activate the PHONE but not attach my number to it?

I know it's a Best Buy question, technically, but I imagine AT&T employees deal with outside purchases a lot. Thanks!

You could call 611 from your phone and say "Hi I just got a phone in the mail, can you help me activate it on <wife's phone number>"

Don't bother telling them where you got it or that back story, you're only complicating things.

Skychrono
May 11, 2007

I'll make you cry like I did when my daddy died!

SeaborneClink posted:

You could call 611 from your phone and say "Hi I just got a phone in the mail, can you help me activate it on <wife's phone number>"

Don't bother telling them where you got it or that back story, you're only complicating things.

Unfortunately, they'll probably activate it in store when I pick it up now. I didn't think of having it mailed.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Our current plan for 10 Gb is $120 + 4 x $30 = $240

New value plan for same is $100 + 4 x $40 = $260

How come everyone else seems to do better on it?

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

Skychrono posted:

I just bought my wife an iPhone 5s from BestBuy.com, thanks to the $50 off promotion.

It was on my upgrade, on the family plan. When I go in, will they require me to activate it against my number - at which point I'll need to go to the AT&T store to switch it back to current phone? Or can I just tell them to activate the PHONE but not attach my number to it?

I know it's a Best Buy question, technically, but I imagine AT&T employees deal with outside purchases a lot. Thanks!

If your mobile rep at best buy is competent he can use smart chat to do the cross upgrade.

Lethanialist
Sep 10, 2006

Mom said not to run down the escalator. I hate it when Mom's right.

smackfu posted:

Our current plan for 10 Gb is $120 + 4 x $30 = $240

New value plan for same is $100 + 4 x $40 = $260

How come everyone else seems to do better on it?

If you entered your contract before February 2 you are eligible to get $100 + 4 x $15 = $160. You are still in contract but will pay the non-contract price.

Skychrono
May 11, 2007

I'll make you cry like I did when my daddy died!

Sticky posted:

If your mobile rep at best buy is competent he can use smart chat to do the cross upgrade.

Thanks! I'll bring it up.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

Sticky posted:

If your mobile rep at best buy is competent he can use smart chat to do the cross upgrade.

Does bestbuy have smart chat?

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

Beefstorm posted:

Does bestbuy have smart chat?

They have something like it yes. PAWS their activation system is a little more limited than ours so they just have to hop on a chat with a rep and reassign the equipment without swapping sim cards. They rolled the system out shortly before I left bby for AT&T.

Edit: it also depends on the rep you deal with too. I would only ever deal with a couple guys when I would do upgrades because most of them didn't know what they were doing.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Lethanialist posted:

If you entered your contract before February 2 you are eligible to get $100 + 4 x $15 = $160. You are still in contract but will pay the non-contract price.

I wish they were clearer about this on the web page, instead of saying generic stuff about the $15 charge like "This amount reflects Mobile Share Value savings for eligible smartphones." But there is some small print that says "New pricing avail. to AT&T customers on 2-yr agmt as of 2/1/14" so that is useful.

So it seems like it will in fact be $20 more per month for our four lines once we all get new phones (if we do). But until then, we'll save $80 a month, for at least the next 6 months, so that seems pretty worth it.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass
My family plan is already a 4 smartphone setup with 10GB mobile share. The current bill due 02/24 is $246. Here's the breakdown:

Mobile Share 10GB: $120
Mobile Share for iPhone: $30
Discount: -$20.40
Fees: $8.16
3 other phones: $36.08 each after fees

It looks like two of the phones are eligible for Next (their two years are up in July and September).

Is there money to be saved here or reasons to switch to Next? It looks like the new base 10GB plan should be cheaper, but it doesn't look like we have it?

Krailor
Nov 2, 2001
I'm only pretending to care
Taco Defender

smackfu posted:

So it seems like it will in fact be $20 more per month for our four lines once we all get new phones (if we do). But until then, we'll save $80 a month, for at least the next 6 months, so that seems pretty worth it.

When it comes time to upgrade you should just buy your new phone outright or use Next instead of signing a new 2 year contract. This way your per-line payments stay at $15 and you just add whatever monthly amount your Next phone costs.

If you go with a contract then you are paying a minimum of $480 for each new phone (24*20) plus whatever the one time fee is ($0-$200) plus a $36 activation fee.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
Since my bill is due next week and I have it sitting in front of me I thought I would post it in here and see if anyone could help me pinch some pennies.

Line 1 (iPhone 5S on contract):
$60 - FamilyTalk Nation 700 with Rollover
$20 - DataPlus 300MB for iPhone on 4G LTE with Visual Voicemail
$~9 - Taxes and crap

Line 2 (Lumia 920 on contract):
$10 - FamilyTalk Nation 700 with Rollover
$ 7 - Mobile Insurance Premium (don't know what this is actually)
$30 - DataPro 3GB for Smartphone 4G LTE with Visual Voicemail
$~3 - Taxes and crap

Phone 1 used 241 MB of data and always makes an effort to stay under 300 MB, Phone 2 used 260 MB of data but does occasionally go up in the 500 range. Both phones combined used 139 plan minutes and we are currently sitting at 5,382 rollover minutes.

Bill is $139.86 a month right now assuming neither of us goes over on data.

e: we have free texting until April because my wife asked about lowering the bill to stay on AT&T a few months back when we were off contract and they threw that in for us.

Devo fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Feb 19, 2014

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Krailor posted:

When it comes time to upgrade you should just buy your new phone outright or use Next instead of signing a new 2 year contract. This way your per-line payments stay at $15 and you just add whatever monthly amount your Next phone costs.

OK, I don't really see why anyone would have a contract now, especially if your data plan is over 10GB.

iPhone Contract: pay $236 now, pay $40 per device per month, own phone after 24 months
Next 18: pay $0 now, pay same $40 ($15 + $25 Next) per month, own phone after 26 months. Or trade it in earlier.

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Devo posted:

Since my bill is due next week and I have it sitting in front of me I thought I would post it in here and see if anyone could help me pinch some pennies.

Line 1 (iPhone 5S on contract):
$60 - FamilyTalk Nation 700 with Rollover
$20 - DataPlus 300MB for iPhone on 4G LTE with Visual Voicemail
$~9 - Taxes and crap

Line 2 (Lumia 920 on contract):
$10 - FamilyTalk Nation 700 with Rollover
$ 7 - Mobile Insurance Premium (don't know what this is actually)
$30 - DataPro 3GB for Smartphone 4G LTE with Visual Voicemail
$~3 - Taxes and crap

Phone 1 used 241 MB of data and always makes an effort to stay under 300 MB, Phone 2 used 260 MB of data but does occasionally go up in the 500 range. Both phones combined used 139 plan minutes and we are currently sitting at 5,382 rollover minutes.

Bill is $139.86 a month right now assuming neither of us goes over on data.

e: we have free texting until April because my wife asked about lowering the bill to stay on AT&T a few months back when we were off contract and they threw that in for us.

$125 gets you Unl Talk/Text with 1GB data to share, before tax. Keeps you about where you are now, when April rolls around and you have to start paying for Text again. Now thats under the pretense that you are going to start a new contract ASAP. Be smart and go NEXT when the time comes.

If your last 2 year started before February, then you could be paying only $95 before tax for the above. Then when you want new phones, be smart and go NEXT when the time comes. You'll pay the 95 plus the installment. Or just buy one at full retail and be done with it. Saving $30/mo is good.

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer
In general, any reason we dont have the MST linked in the OP? Not that anyone reads it, but its useful for these rate plan questions.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

obeyasia posted:

$125 gets you Unl Talk/Text with 1GB data to share, before tax. Keeps you about where you are now, when April rolls around and you have to start paying for Text again. Now thats under the pretense that you are going to start a new contract ASAP. Be smart and go NEXT when the time comes.

If your last 2 year started before February, then you could be paying only $95 before tax for the above. Then when you want new phones, be smart and go NEXT when the time comes. You'll pay the 95 plus the installment. Or just buy one at full retail and be done with it. Saving $30/mo is good.

Lumia was purchased on contract about a year ago, and iPhone was in November? So it's $95 plus tax assuming we keep our phones or go NEXT? That's a pretty significant discount. I'm assuming I can change plans with no real issues on the AT&T website?

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Devo posted:

Lumia was purchased on contract about a year ago, and iPhone was in November? So it's $95 plus tax assuming we keep our phones or go NEXT? That's a pretty significant discount. I'm assuming I can change plans with no real issues on the AT&T website?

Yep.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

obeyasia posted:

In general, any reason we dont have the MST linked in the OP? Not that anyone reads it, but its useful for these rate plan questions.

Wow, that is fascinating that all that stuff is just out on the internet. I guess for use by resellers?

Found using a quick Google: http://www.myattmst.com/MST-HOME.html

Sperg Victorious
Mar 25, 2011
If I want to switch my Mobile Share Value plan to a Business Value Share plan, what do I need to do to do that? I have a business license and such that I can bring into a corp. store if I need to.

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

Sperg Victorious posted:

If I want to switch my Mobile Share Value plan to a Business Value Share plan, what do I need to do to do that? I have a business license and such that I can bring into a corp. store if I need to.

Yes do that but don't do it on a weekend, in case the rep encounters anything on the way that can't be fixed in store he'll need to call business care and they're closed weekends. But seriously if you're converting lines and maybe adding a couple go right in, reps should be very happy to take care of this for you.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

If he has two lines in contract the 1GB plan is $45 + $40 + $40 = $125, not $95. They won't see the $15 discount per line until the contracts are gone.

The 10GB plans allows for lines with contracts before this month to get no contract pricing, but the 8 and under do not.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

obeyasia posted:

In general, any reason we dont have the MST linked in the OP? Not that anyone reads it, but its useful for these rate plan questions.

Even though accessable over the internet, isn't that considered proprietary and internal?

EDIT: OP updated with latest promotions and some policy changes.

Beefstorm fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Feb 20, 2014

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Beefstorm posted:

Even though accessable over the internet, isn't that considered proprietary and internal?

EDIT: OP updated with latest promotions and some policy changes.

There's no disclaimer on it to indicate that it is, unlike every other document.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
I've been reading through the thread and I wanted to just make sure I completely understand how the new mobile share value plans work in my situation.

I have 2 iPhone 5s's on my plan that were bought on launch day in september on a 2-year contract.
I have the 6GB Mobile Share plan. Excluding my FAN discount, this means I pay $90 + ($35 * 2) = $160 a month.

If I switch to the 10GB Mobile Share plan, the website says I will pay $100 + ($15 * 2) = $130 a month.

Does this end my contract on my iPhone 5s? It says I'm eligible for a Next upgrade right now (but I don't want to upgrade because I have a 5s)

Does this mean when say an iPhone 6 comes out I'll be able to sell my 5s, and buy a 6 outright or go on an AT&T Next installment plan for the 6?

If I wanted to, could I sign a 2 year contract for the iPhone 6? If I did that I would lose access to the value share plan right?

I'm assuming AT&T is doing this to move people from contracts to installment plans.

Are contracts a thing of the past from now on?

One scheme I've been thinking is that I would just switch to the new lower plan and stick away the extra money I would have been paying each month into a savings account to pay for my next phone upgrade.

That way I can buy the phone outright instead of going on the installment plan.

Do I have a good handle on how this works, or have I misstated anything?

Edit: One last question. I NEVER go to AT&T for my iPhones, I always go to an Apple Store. Will AT&T Next preclude me from purchasing my phone at an Apple Store?

echobucket fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Feb 20, 2014

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

echobucket posted:

I've been reading through the thread and I wanted to just make sure I completely understand how the new mobile share value plans work in my situation.

I have 2 iPhone 5s's on my plan that were bought on launch day in september on a 2-year contract.
I have the 6GB Mobile Share plan. Excluding my FAN discount, this means I pay $90 + ($35 * 2) = $160 a month.

If I switch to the 10GB Mobile Share plan, the website says I will pay $100 + ($15 * 2) = $130 a month.

Does this end my contract on my iPhone 5s? It says I'm eligible for a Next upgrade right now (but I don't want to upgrade because I have a 5s)

Does this mean when say an iPhone 6 comes out I'll be able to sell my 5s, and buy a 6 outright or go on an AT&T Next installment plan for the 6?

If I wanted to, could I sign a 2 year contract for the iPhone 6? If I did that I would lose access to the value share plan right?

I'm assuming AT&T is doing this to move people from contracts to installment plans.

Are contracts a thing of the past from now on?

One scheme I've been thinking is that I would just switch to the new lower plan and stick away the extra money I would have been paying each month into a savings account to pay for my next phone upgrade.

That way I can buy the phone outright instead of going on the installment plan.

Do I have a good handle on how this works, or have I misstated anything?

Edit: One last question. I NEVER go to AT&T for my iPhones, I always go to an Apple Store. Will AT&T Next preclude me from purchasing my phone at an Apple Store?

ATT still offers contracts but they are becoming a thing of the past. You would get an ETF still if you left ATT, but that's the only thing your contract affects you on. You can go month to month and buy your phone outright or upgrade on next at anytime. Apple doesn't offer next yet but I'm sure they will.

zerocrash
Apr 14, 2009
I have a two year contract with my S4, if I were to switch to NEXT and use the upgrade to get an S5 when it comes out, would I still have to turn in my S4?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

zerocrash posted:

I have a two year contract with my S4, if I were to switch to NEXT and use the upgrade to get an S5 when it comes out, would I still have to turn in my S4?

You will stay upgrade eligible for next, and using that next upgrade for the S5 when it comes out will not require you to trade in your phone.

Once you are on next, you have the OPTION to trade in your phone for a new one at 12 or 18 months depending on which one you do. But it is only option, you don't have to. At any time with next you can pay off your phone to get a new one.

Zonekeeper
Oct 27, 2007



I'm thinking about jumping on the Moto X sale ($329 for 16GB, $379 for 32GB) and buying a GSM one outright. Problem is, I'm on Verizon and want to port my number. I'm wanting a contract plan without actually signing a contract.

1: Can I buy a no-contract Moto X and port my number to a month to month postpaid plan? (I know the prepaid service has a lower priority, so I want postpaid service.)
2: Will AT&T let me port my number over and go on a month to month plan, or do I need to set up a contract?
3: If I'm forced to set it up as a Next plan, will I get the discounted $379 price for a 32 gb?

Edit: I should have a discount through Centurylink and don't need more than 1GB per month.

Edit2: Poking around the thread it looks like I would be OK buying it myself and setting it up as a 'bring your own phone' line. I'll have to eat a $35 activation fee, but that's more than offset by the $100 new line credit. Porting shouldn't be an issue - I was mainly worried about being without a phone for a week while I waited for Motorola to customize my new one. I can just buy it now and do the port when the phone comes in.

Am I correct?

Zonekeeper fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Feb 21, 2014

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.
Yes. Make sure you've got your Verizon account number, SSN of the Verizon account holder, billing address and billing pin if applicable.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
Can you make a down payment on the next plan? Like say you only want to finance half the price of a phone?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

echobucket posted:

Can you make a down payment on the next plan? Like say you only want to finance half the price of a phone?

Nope, though yoh could do it the opposite, pay the first half and then accelerate the final payment.

Lethanialist
Sep 10, 2006

Mom said not to run down the escalator. I hate it when Mom's right.

echobucket posted:

Can you make a down payment on the next plan? Like say you only want to finance half the price of a phone?

Next is interest-free so I'm not sure you'd benefit even if you could make a larger payment.

However, I'm not sure if it shows up as a loan or line of credit on your credit report.. anyone from AT&T have info on that? It would kind of suck to ding my credit for an iPhone.

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

echobucket posted:

Can you make a down payment on the next plan? Like say you only want to finance half the price of a phone?

They don't but I really wish you could do this.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

Lethanialist posted:

Next is interest-free so I'm not sure you'd benefit even if you could make a larger payment.

On T-Mobile (for example), it gets your monthly payment down. So if, say, your company only pays up to $X for your plan, you can put enough down that your out-of-pocket for the rest of the year is $0.

And at some employers, that's also the difference between your phone bill magically paying itself and you having to calculate and file for partial reimbursement every month to get a check God-knows-when.

Lethanialist
Sep 10, 2006

Mom said not to run down the escalator. I hate it when Mom's right.

Molten Llama posted:

And at some employers, that's also the difference between your phone bill magically paying itself and you having to calculate and file for partial reimbursement every month to get a check God-knows-when.

Thanks, employer reimbursement is an angle I hadn't even considered. If you were going for $0/month you could always just buy the phone full retail, too.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

echobucket posted:

Can you make a down payment on the next plan? Like say you only want to finance half the price of a phone?

You can't. However I imagine when two year contracts go down the drain, that will replace not being eligible for next.

Meowjesty
Oct 23, 2009

Friends depend on each other.

Lethanialist posted:

If you entered your contract before February 2 you are eligible to get $100 + 4 x $15 = $160. You are still in contract but will pay the non-contract price.

I was just coming in here to ask that. Thanks for explaining! I looked all over online and couldn't get an answer as clearly as this. My ATT mobile app shows that each line is $40 (probably because it isn't including the discount?) but the PC site shows them as $15. I was freaking out a bit, even though the site assured me it was $15 per line when I was switching plans. :sigh:

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Lethanialist
Sep 10, 2006

Mom said not to run down the escalator. I hate it when Mom's right.

Meowjesty posted:

I was just coming in here to ask that. Thanks for explaining! I looked all over online and couldn't get an answer as clearly as this. My ATT mobile app shows that each line is $40 (probably because it isn't including the discount?) but the PC site shows them as $15. I was freaking out a bit, even though the site assured me it was $15 per line when I was switching plans. :sigh:

If you want to play it safe, go to your local AT&T store, give someone a commission, and let them handle it. Turn down the up sells but have someone to blame if things go wrong!

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