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Colorado High School Football teams will finally get the 100,000+ seat stadiums that they all desperately need.
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Powercrazy posted:Colorado High School Football teams will finally get the 100,000+ seat stadiums that they all desperately need. While that is a horrible waste of money, it beats having that cash go to cartels, right?
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Feb 20, 2014 21:52
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Hey cartels employ a lot of people who will be out of work for real. I'm not being ironic that is an actual downside when that work isn't things like "kidnapping" or "murder".
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Feb 20, 2014 21:54
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He's joking, even if it were all going to education (and it's not) $100 million is a drop in the bucket compared to how much education funding has been slashed over the past 20 years or so thanks to TABOR. Nobody is building a football stadium.
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Feb 20, 2014 21:54
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Meanwhile, banks are leaning on landlords who are leasing to Marijuana businesses. http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25180210/banks-wont-finance-pot-shop-properties quote:Colorado's two largest banks, Wells Fargo Bank and FirstBank, say they won't offer new loans to landowners with preexisting leases with pot businesses. And Wells Fargo and Vectra Bank have told commercial loan clients that either have to evict marijuana businesses or seek refinancing elsewhere.
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Feb 20, 2014 22:06
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So the banks are more than willing to look the other way when the actual cartels come to drop off their money, but pot shops are a bridge too far?
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Feb 20, 2014 22:29
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cafel posted:So the banks are more than willing to look the other way when the actual cartels come to drop off their money, but pot shops are a bridge too far? Two words: Plausible Deniability.
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Feb 20, 2014 23:34
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It's great to know that such a fine, upstanding corporation like Wells Fargo is so concerned about hewing to federal law.
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Feb 21, 2014 00:07
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LeJackal posted:It seems like the estimates for the tax revenue were way off. Like 40% off. 40 percent low. It is a personal dream to one day live in a state where they don't make me cut out box tops of cereal and instead encourage me to smoke one for my childrens' future.
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Feb 21, 2014 00:12
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It's pretty cool to walk into a head shop and buy a bong or a bubbler to smoke weed and get high. Long gone are the days of "tobacco water pipes" or "incense holders."
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Feb 21, 2014 02:30
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cafel posted:So the banks are more than willing to look the other way when the actual cartels come to drop off their money, but pot shops are a bridge too far?
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Feb 21, 2014 02:33
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LeJackal posted:It seems like the estimates for the tax revenue were way off. Like 40% off. 40 percent low. That's nuts--do you think the taxes will become more sensible as a result of this? With that kind of discrepancy I'm kind of picturing the scene from Office Space where they realize they've stolen way more from the company than they thought they were going to.
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Feb 21, 2014 05:14
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Inspector Hound posted:That's nuts--do you think the taxes will become more sensible as a result of this? With that kind of discrepancy I'm kind of picturing the scene from Office Space where they realize they've stolen way more from the company than they thought they were going to. Why would they lower the tax? Colorado has a planetary monopoly on legal recreational marijuana until June, this windfall is strictly temporary so it's worth it for Colorado to milk it for all it's worth.
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Feb 21, 2014 05:50
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Inspector Hound posted:That's nuts--do you think the taxes will become more sensible as a result of this? With that kind of discrepancy I'm kind of picturing the scene from Office Space where they realize they've stolen way more from the company than they thought they were going to. What? The taxes are already extremely sensible.
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Feb 21, 2014 06:19
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You think that the 12.5% in Colorado is high? Washington is 25% on the producers and 25% on sales. Totally worth it as another revenue source, as people here are pretty liberal until you ask them you pay their fair share. Edit: Whoops, even more than I thought. Q: How is it going to be taxed? A: The initiative applies a 25% excise tax on each level of the system: producer to a processor, processor to a retailer, and retailer to the customer. In addition, B&O taxes on the production and local retail sales taxes apply.
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Feb 21, 2014 06:45
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Mrit posted:as people here are pretty liberal until you ask them you pay their fair share. This is true everywhere and weed isn't going to change that unfortunately 
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Feb 21, 2014 06:49
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Hope this wasn't posted earlier. I didn't see this come up in the past few pages. Inside Edition covers skiing/riding high. The reporting style is pretty hilarious to me. The narrator/journalist is yelling in surprise the whole time.
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Feb 21, 2014 07:48
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Every time I see this talking point I have to laugh. Snowboarders smoking while they ride is not exactly a new thing. I wonder if we'll eventually get reports that people at concerts are possibly lighting up, or that people in bars might be drinking.
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Feb 21, 2014 08:10
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It's pretty hard to overstate how prevalent pot usage is among skiiers and snowboarders here, especially among college-age people. From what I understand there's around 10 smoke huts in the trees at Breckenridge at any given point in time (sometimes the ski patrol will tear one down to make a show, but a new one will pop up elsewhere), including a famous two-story smoke hut. I've stumbled across them at other ski areas, too.
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Feb 21, 2014 08:40
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The Maroon Hawk posted:It's pretty hard to overstate how prevalent pot usage is among skiiers and snowboarders here, especially among college-age people. From what I understand there's around 10 smoke huts in the trees at Breckenridge at any given point in time (sometimes the ski patrol will tear one down to make a show, but a new one will pop up elsewhere), including a famous two-story smoke hut. I've stumbled across them at other ski areas, too. Do the people just sneak saws onto the slopes and build them? Also, it was funny the reporter implying that the weed made those guys snowboard bad at the end. They were just really lovely snowboarders.
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Feb 21, 2014 09:55
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Good, honest reporting like that reinforces my pre-conceived ideas and allows me to continue discriminating against pot smokers in all situations without a shred of irony. Now excuse me while I hop off this ski lift at 10,000 ft and walk into a bar where I will down a 10% beer aged in a whiskey barrel or maybe a strong bloody mary before I head down the slope again. Nothing dangerous about that. Nope. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rench-Alps.html http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ski-instructor-found-dead-drinking-skiing-article-1.1305174 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-skier-seeking-a-shortcut-dies-on-french-alps-after-a-night-out-drinking-8546357.html http://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/whistler/skier-dies-after-falling-into-whistler-mountain-tree-well/Content?oid=2542930 http://www.kgw.com/news/Missing-Mt-Hood-skier-found-dead-after-drinking-episode-200868521.html
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Feb 21, 2014 15:42
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Well it was pretty funny to see the two guys fall down over and over.
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TheManWithNoName posted:Well it was pretty funny to see the two guys fall down over and over. Not funny that people will think it was because they are high.
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Feb 21, 2014 16:25
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The Maroon Hawk posted:It's pretty hard to overstate how prevalent pot usage is among skiiers and snowboarders here, especially among college-age people. From what I understand there's around 10 smoke huts in the trees at Breckenridge at any given point in time (sometimes the ski patrol will tear one down to make a show, but a new one will pop up elsewhere), including a famous two-story smoke hut. I've stumbled across them at other ski areas, too. Being surprised that people smoke weed while skiing/riding is just as absurd as being surprised folks do it at a concert. People are perhaps a little more open about it now because social norms are evolving, but it's always been there. Remember Henrik Harlaut, the dreadlocked Swedish slope style skier who's pants were falling down in the Olympics and who gave a WuTang shoutout after his run? He famously smokes a shitload of weed, as does Tanner Hall, the pro skier and cofounder of his ski sponsor Armada. Tanner's Instagram account is literally @tannerhall420. edit: famous video segment with "Rasta Stevie" of Telluride from 1988 bawfuls fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Imagine the chaos at the beach if the surfers were high?!?
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Ugh. What the gently caress. Vail Resorts demolished Leo's Shack. That's the one shown in the video. That place was amazing! It was advanced expert terrain to get there, huge, multiple stories, and great place to take a break even if you don't smoke. I guess I'm not at all surprised, but still upset about what has been a mainstay of my days on the mountain for years is now gone. First world problems/this is mostly a gripe about how the ski industry operates compared to the old freewheeling hippy days and all. I just hate seeing an awesome feature like that disappear. I can already see the official reason. "The shack was a liability." What? And the cliffs surrounding it weren't?
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Feb 22, 2014 22:32
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19 o'clock posted:Ugh. What the gently caress. Blame the stupid news company for showing it. They will build more though.
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Feb 22, 2014 23:20
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Yes absolutely nothing could go wrong with a bunch of inexperienced, unqualified people building structures on the side of a mountain with no building codes or regulations whatsoever. A business should allow that to happen and be willing to incur the nearly limitless liability they would on the hook for when (not if) someone gets hurt. You get how absurd and indefensible that line of thinking is right?
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Pryor on Fire posted:Yes absolutely nothing could go wrong with a bunch of inexperienced, unqualified people building structures on the side of a mountain with no building codes or regulations whatsoever. A business should allow that to happen and be willing to incur the nearly limitless liability they would on the hook for when (not if) someone gets hurt. You get that this is why you don't have any playground friends, right?
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Pryor on Fire posted:Yes absolutely nothing could go wrong with a bunch of inexperienced, unqualified people building structures on the side of a mountain with no building codes or regulations whatsoever. A business should allow that to happen and be willing to incur the nearly limitless liability they would on the hook for when (not if) someone gets hurt. Whats it like inside the bubble? The air must be so stale.
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A brief google image search suggests these skiing related smoke huts generally don't follow building standards. Now that pot is legal in two states, what reasons would there be to reject resort approved, properly built smoke huts?
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Freakazoid_ posted:A brief google image search suggests these skiing related smoke huts generally don't follow building standards.
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The resort almost certainly couldn't build an outright smoke hut, due to the laws prohibiting facilities meant for smoking weed in general.
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Jeffrey posted:My guess? Insurance cost if the resort doesn't have a policy against drug use while using the slope. Also they would probably get some bad publicity for it. They could build "rest huts" or something and deny their purpose but I bet they're all being cautious. They don't have bars?
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Pryor on Fire posted:Yes absolutely nothing could go wrong with a bunch of inexperienced, unqualified people building structures on the side of a mountain with no building codes or regulations whatsoever. A business should allow that to happen and be willing to incur the nearly limitless liability they would on the hook for when (not if) someone gets hurt. Oh man, this is a great one. The day someone sues over getting hurt at one of these shacks is the day they don't serve a purpose anymore. This isn't a place where the average skier or snowboarder goes. These are spots that involve higher than average levels of risk and skill to access in the first place. It's hard to explain in a way that doesn't make me feel like a nerd or a try hard. I have trouble explaining a "cool riding experience" to people. It's just fun. Word is the forest service took it down and not Vail. I'm gonna ask around to see if there isn't more to it.
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KingEup posted:They don't have bars? Bars are explicitly legal under Colorado law.
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I realize that this is not directly related to the topic of marijuana legalization but didn't see any better place in D&D to post this particular news. It looks like the head of the Sinaloa Cartel just got nabbed in Mexico: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/el-chapo-guzman-arrested_n_4838080.html
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Chadderbox posted:I realize that this is not directly related to the topic of marijuana legalization but didn't see any better place in D&D to post this particular news. It looks like the head of the Sinaloa Cartel just got nabbed in Mexico: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/el-chapo-guzman-arrested_n_4838080.html Yeah that happened yesterday morning. Pretty big deal, but he will who knows if he will just walk out of Mexican jail again. (Idk how that has anything to do with a Colorado thread though? You might be looking for The Clubhouse or maybe a Texas/Mexico thread)
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19 o'clock posted:Word is the forest service took it down and not Vail. I'm gonna ask around to see if there isn't more to it.
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goodness posted:Yeah that happened yesterday morning. Pretty big deal, but he will who knows if he will just walk out of Mexican jail again. This is not a Colorado thread, it's the marijuana legalization thread and has recently focused on CO for obvious reasons. There wasn't a more general drug war thread that I could see, and considering the occupation of the guy in question (illegal marijuana wholesaler among other things) I figured it was worth a mention.
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