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FrozenVent posted:They also have a longstanding obsession with hoarding money, soooo... I don't think that cuts to the issue of the many different ways the Swiss have screwed their military. toothpick attachment
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FullMetalJacket posted:they use the D models and "limited personnel" restrict flight operations. Aren't they planning on replacing the whole thing with Gripens by about 2018 or so anyways?
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Naturally Selected posted:Aren't they planning on replacing the whole thing with Gripens by about 2018 or so anyways? looks like just their even older F-5s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Gripen#Potential_and_future_operators
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Keep in mind that Switzerland is a country that flew the Hawker Hunter until 1994.
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StandardVC10 posted:Keep in mind that Switzerland is a country that flew the Hawker Hunter until 1994. So did England?
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This is a bit random, but this crappy winter has me thinking about warmer days and what to do with them, so.... what are the bigger air shows around the country? If there were one airshow on the east coast to see in 2014 which would you guys recommend?
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eggyolk posted:This is a bit random, but this crappy winter has me thinking about warmer days and what to do with them, so.... what are the bigger air shows around the country? If there were one airshow on the east coast to see in 2014 which would you guys recommend? If you want to see oooold things flying, Rhinebeck is worth visiting.
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eggyolk posted:This is a bit random, but this crappy winter has me thinking about warmer days and what to do with them, so.... what are the bigger air shows around the country? If there were one airshow on the east coast to see in 2014 which would you guys recommend? It's not particularly big, nor is it on the East Coast, but Thunder Over Michigan is my local air show and it's pretty great.
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Ardeem posted:If you want to see oooold things flying, Rhinebeck is worth visiting. Oh wow, I didn't realize this was actually day-trip distance from the city.  Definitely going this summer, might even spring for a ride!E: $75 a pop? Hell the gently caress yeah. Gonna fly in a 90-year old plane. I wonder If they let you take photos/vids while flying.
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Feb 20, 2014 08:56
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Flew in a pretty interesting area last week...
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My first thought is "Man, that's beautiful." My second thought is, "I hope that isn't the model with the rubber band powered single circuit hydraulics"
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StandardVC10 posted:Keep in mind that Switzerland is a country that flew the Hawker Hunter until 1994. It's not the Swiss' fault the Hunter is one of the most beautiful aircraft ever designed 
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Some more scans from my dad's collection. This is the LHR (London Heathrow) approach in 1971 - some interesting types here. Vickers Vanguard  Ilyushin IL-18  Early model DC-8. That's a big-rear end rudder.  737-100. Only 30 of these were built.  737-200. Note the longer forward fuselage.  Boeing 720. Surprised it had the range to fly from Pakistan to London, unless it stopped off somewhere?  BAe Trident. Like a 727, only rubbish.
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Axeman Jim posted:
The 720 would have had to stop somewhere; Karachi-London is right on the edge of the 720's range with max fuel. Also, that's a Trident 3B, which was actually a wierd-rear end four-engine version of the Trident; in addition to the three Rolls-Royce Spey turbofans, it had an RB.162 as a booster engine, mounted in that spike above the centre engine (and feeding from the centre engine duct). You know, instead of doing the sensible thing and fit larger engines, like Boeing did with the 727 and even Tupolev with the Tu-154...nope, we're going to fit an engine that's going to be dead weight for all but five minutes of the flight!
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So Kate Upton did a thing in a plane. Which was pretty aeronautical and insane.   Some videos of it here http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/kate-upton-goes-zero-gravity-sports-illustrated-photoshoot/
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Axeman Jim posted:
Oddly enough, SP-LSE managed to survive retirement as a restaurant (a weirdly common fate among Eastern Bloc airliners, actually) only to be destroyed by vandals who set her alight.
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eggyolk posted:This is a bit random, but this crappy winter has me thinking about warmer days and what to do with them, so.... what are the bigger air shows around the country? If there were one airshow on the east coast to see in 2014 which would you guys recommend? Luke Days! Well, it's east of California.
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D C posted:Flew in a pretty interesting area last week... Is that a Bell 206?
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Bob A Feet posted:Is that a Bell 206? No. Looks like one of these, to me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_AS350 Riot Carol Danvers fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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They're still in use for a ground attack role by the Lebanese Air Force 
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:
To be fair, the LAF has a total of what, 20 fixed-wing craft and use Hueys as bombers so the Hunter is pretty low on the list of -worthy poo poo there.Reading up on the LAF is pretty great, though. Bought 1 helicopter that served for 40+ years. It did lead me to this beaut though  Italians sure know how to build them purty 
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Naturally Selected posted:
Either  or you're thinking that that Belgian Air force version of a french trainer is italian...
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Preoptopus posted:So Kate Upton did a thing in a plane. Which was pretty aeronautical and insane. The future is now:  (also, judging from the video, that must have been a bitch of a photo shoot to do)
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SybilVimes posted:Either I made a  and decided it was an Italian design for some reason. Livery's Belgian, but I was sure the craft was of Italian design.To be fair, I just woke up when I posted that. Think I saw an Italian flag on the list of LAF craft and saw the red livery and went FERRARI Captain Postal posted:(also, judging from the video, that must have been a bitch of a photo shoot to do) Getting stills/lighting/video steady on a vomit comet, without nailing poo poo down with roofing nails...  And not just from the parabolic flight.
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Feb 21, 2014 20:21
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Naturally Selected posted:To be fair, the LAF has a total of what, 20 fixed-wing craft and use Hueys as bombers so the Hunter is pretty low on the list of I think you ment to link to a picture of this v tail. Colonel K posted:My favourite v-tail twin
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Ardeem posted:I think you ment to link to a picture of this v tail. New challenge: someone find a picture of an ugly V-tail. The worst I've seen was pedestrian. And yes, that thing is so goddamn gorgeous.
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Naturally Selected posted:New challenge: someone find a picture of an ugly V-tail. The worst I've seen was pedestrian. V-tail Thunderceptor. And as a friend just pointed out, the F-117 is an acquired taste.  Underappreciated Republic product right here, the XF-12 Rainbow.  Those aren't turboprops, those are tightly cowled 4360's. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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Slo-Tek posted:V-tail Thunderceptor. And as a friend just pointed out, the F-117 is an acquired taste. Say what you will about the F-117, Have Blue was downright adorable. 
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Ardeem posted:Say what you will about the F-117, Have Blue was downright adorable. That sure looks like an Iranian mock-up...
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Ardeem posted:Say what you will about the F-117, Have Blue was downright adorable. I wonder where that picture was taken... Edit: Oh yeah ugly V-tails. Tacit Blue. hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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Dr. Klas posted:That sure looks like an Iranian mock-up... https://www.google.com/search?q=Have+Blue
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Yeah, I know. It still looks like it was made by Iranians with whatever plywood material they happened to have laying around in the workshop.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:They're still in use for a ground attack role by the Lebanese Air Force Better than that, they were actually brought out of retirement for that purpose in 2008.
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Slo-Tek posted:V-tail Thunderceptor. And as a friend just pointed out, the F-117 is an acquired taste. I personally don't find this one ugly, but then again I'm a sucker for early jet interceptors. hobbesmaster posted:I wonder where that picture was taken... I never realized just how big Tacit Blue was until I saw it at the Air Museum in Dayton (finally got into that hanger back in January). For some reason I always thought it was smaller.
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Ardeem posted:Say what you will about the F-117, Have Blue was downright adorable.
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For some reason i thought that the Haveblue was a UAV, what was the role that it would be doing ? It just looks like a smaller F-117. Just saw this crosswind landing on a fails compilation (@8:19m) 
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Micr0chiP posted:For some reason i thought that the Haveblue was a UAV, what was the role that it would be doing ? It just looks like a smaller F-117. HAVE BLUE was the prototype for the F-117. Two were built and it was flown exclusively at Area 51. Both crashed and the debris was buried somewhere in Nellis range.
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Right, it's role (and Tacit Blue's as well) was being a technology demonstrator. Not every experimental aircraft is a preproduction prototype.
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I love 50s jets so much. The Hawker Hunter's gun ports do a bottle whistle effect which is known as the "blue note". It is the most futuristic noise known to man and it has inspired all sorts of sci-fi sound designers how to make the movie spaceships sound - I would think that includes the TIE fighter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIhTsA4vPj8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9tf4zydHGk
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